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Green bullets?
American Thinker ^
| July 26, 2013
| Jim Yardley
Posted on 07/26/2013 10:29:53 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: athelass
Way back in Viet Nam we opened a new case of C-rats. To our dismay there were no cigarettes, just a note saying cigarettes were hazardous to our heath. With bullets flying over our heads and impacting our sandbags we all thought of the idiots who made that decision.
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posted on
07/27/2013 5:15:49 AM PDT
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
arithmetic police You'll never take me alive, copper.
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posted on
07/27/2013 5:18:55 AM PDT
by
Hardastarboard
(Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
To: neverdem
The only thing that should matter is whether these new bullets will kill a bad guy before he knows he has been shot.
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
At a specific gravity of 10.49, the density of silver is closer to that of lead. It would also be effective against vampires and werewolves. OTOH, it is considerably more expensive than either lead or copper not that that seems to matter to anyone. That is just plain funny. Thank you.
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posted on
07/27/2013 5:33:19 AM PDT
by
exDemMom
(Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
To: factoryrat
Of course that decree will be an epic fail because lead is easily available from millions of car batteries, and enterprising hand loaders will find a way around material shortages. Can you shove a homemade bullet into those casings that pop out of the gun every time you fire? Are those casings reusable? Is there any special equipment involved?
Please excuse my ignorance. My experience with firearms is limited to very occasional practices at the range.
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posted on
07/27/2013 5:36:49 AM PDT
by
exDemMom
(Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
A company called Barnes has been making copper bullets for a long time and they are quite successful. The bullets act very much the same as lead does, they expand well and do a good job on game. I am not defending this idiotic move by the military but merely stating some facts. I like lead bullets and have a hard time imagining anything else would work well in my muzzle loader:).
However, Barnes bullets have quite a following, or they used to have at any rate.
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posted on
07/27/2013 6:44:58 AM PDT
by
calex59
To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
I should add that Barnes bullets also cost about 36 dollars, and up, per 50 bullet box.
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posted on
07/27/2013 6:48:42 AM PDT
by
calex59
To: exDemMom
Yes, the brass cartridge casings can be re-used a number of times. Most reloaders buy projectiles (bullets) that are commercially produced, but it is possible to make your own - either cast lead or copper-jacketed. It takes more time and there are some tricks to getting it right, but it is possible.
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posted on
07/27/2013 6:51:54 AM PDT
by
Charles Martel
(Endeavor to persevere...)
To: imardmd1
Hate to burst your bubble but an 180 gr. bullet, regardless of what it is made of, will have the same energy and trajectory as any other 180 grain bullet of the same ballistic configuration. Depleted uranium is heavier than lead but if you are using a 180 gr DPU bullet it will have no greater energy upon impact than a 180 gr lead bullet.
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posted on
07/27/2013 6:53:31 AM PDT
by
calex59
To: Vince Ferrer
“They already bought a billion bullets,”...JFK bought one thousand Cuban cigars before the embargo.
To: neverdem
Yet another way to take our ammunition.
Give them credit for trying and it just might work.
Plenty of non-thinking, emoting humans here to gather around such a cause.
They really need US disarmed, one way or another.
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posted on
07/27/2013 6:58:05 AM PDT
by
GBA
(Our obamanation: Romans 1:18-32)
To: exDemMom
Can you shove a homemade bullet into those casings that pop out of the gun every time you fire? Are those casings reusable? Is there any special equipment involved? Yes, shell casings are quite re-loadable. You can buy bullets or make your own(buying them is much easier)and, yes, you need special equipment to reload. You need a Press and dies at a minimum, plus powder measures, powder scales and other gadgets. You can buy books that would help you get started if you wanted to start reloading, I have been reloading my own ammo since I was 20, I am 71 now.
It is cheaper and somehow more satisfying to reload your casings than it is to buy the completed round.
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posted on
07/27/2013 6:58:43 AM PDT
by
calex59
To: calex59
Hate to burst your bubble but an 180 gr. bullet, regardless of what it is made of, will have the same energy and trajectory as any other 180 grain bullet of the same ballistic configuration. A copper bullet which is dimensionally identical to a lead 180gr bullet will have less mass. A copper bullet with the same mass as a lead 180gr bullet will have to be larger.
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posted on
07/27/2013 7:09:03 AM PDT
by
supercat
(Renounce Covetousness.)
To: neverdem
Naturally, the idea of reducing all that lead, which is of course a toxic substance, from the environment is an admirable goal. Almost any time we, as a society can reduce the unnecessary dispersion of toxins, we should consider it a win. Lead isn't some alien substance. It is a product of the earth. It is impossible to toxify the environment with something that came from that environment in the first place.
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posted on
07/27/2013 7:25:51 AM PDT
by
raisetheroof
("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
To: supercat
A 180 gr bullet, regardless of what it is made of has the same weight, got it? Therefore at any given velocity, the energy of said bullets will be the same upon impact. Barnes bullets penetrate as well as any lead bullet. A copper bullet of 180 grs will be slightly longer than a lead bullet of the same weight, which means that the copper bullet will have a higher ballistic coefficient, will means it will hold its velocity better and penetrate slightly better.
Barnes bullets(which I do not use, BTW)cost more than lead bullets but their performance can't be denied, neither can their commercial success. BTW, they already sell to the military and have for quite some time, ditto to LEOs.
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posted on
07/27/2013 7:35:37 AM PDT
by
calex59
To: Jet Jaguar
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posted on
07/27/2013 7:56:50 AM PDT
by
blam
To: gitmo
Back when I was young, if you had a ringworm or fungus infection, my mom would take real copper pennies, put them in a saucer and pour vinegar over them. After a few days the vinegar would turn green, then you could dab it on the ringworm to kill it.
It really worked. Saved on a doctor’s visit.
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posted on
07/27/2013 8:12:57 AM PDT
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
(Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
To: R. Scott
LOL! Reminds me of the winter siege of Stalingrad when the Germans lost all their resupply aircraft except two.
When the soldiers unloaded those supplies they had...condoms and black pepper.
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posted on
07/27/2013 8:15:40 AM PDT
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
(Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
To: exDemMom
***Can you shove a homemade bullet into those casings that pop out of the gun every time you fire? Are those casings reusable?***
Yes! Reloading is big! I’ve been a reloader for the last 45 years.
Cases you can’t reload...Aluminum with berdan primers. Boxer primers will work in most cases designed for them.
Boxer primers are used by the US. Berdan by most European armories.
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posted on
07/27/2013 8:18:43 AM PDT
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
(Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
To: calex59
Years ago, a gunsmith (I can’t remember his name, he was from Trinidad, Co, later Salt Lake City) who designed a .22 cal bullet made mostly of copper with a small lead tip.
He said it was devastating on even big game in that it opened up, held together and went through the animal like a small buzz saw.
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posted on
07/27/2013 8:25:02 AM PDT
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
(Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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