Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Tesla sold 5,150 Model S EVs in Q2, future $35k model will have 200-mile range
autoblog.com ^ | August 7, 2013 | Sebastian Blanco

Posted on 08/07/2013 10:51:24 PM PDT by grundle

Finally, we know the number. Tesla Motors announced today that it sold 5,150 Model S electric vehicles in North America last quarter. Divide by three and you see that the California company sold around 1,700 cars a month, which puts it right up there with the current plug-in vehicle champions, the Nissan Leaf and the Chevy Volt. That's despite the fact that the cheapest Model S, which starts at $69,900 but often sells for a lot more with better options, costs at least twice as much as the sales leaders. Tesla said it was making "almost 500 vehicles per week" in the second quarter of this year.

The sales contributed to an overall increase in net income (non-GAAP) of 70 percent compared to the first quarter, up to $26 million. Tesla said it achieved a gross margin of 22 percent (non-GAAP), "despite significant reduction in ZEV credits" (which was no surprise) and should hit 25 percent by the fourth quarter of 2013. That number is simply a company's sales revenue with the cost of goods sold taken out, divided by total sales revenue. Put it all together and you get the following statement: "Our financial position and balance sheet have never been stronger." Still, there was no talk in today's conference call of an overall profitable quarter, as there was three months ago.

With all of the good financial news, Tesla and CEO Elon Musk said the primary focus now is on "expanding production to meet worldwide demand." Tesla started delivering the Model S to Europe this week (the first lucky countries were Norway, Switzerland and the Netherlands) and if demand there matches North America, which Musk said is likely, then the company predicts "annualized sales for Model S could exceed 40,000 units per year by late 2014."

Musk said the upcoming new-market Model S versions (right-hand-drive for Japan and the Chinese model) are taking up most of Tesla's resources at the current moment. In China, for example, the company is trying to improve the comfort level of the rear seat, because it is common for people in The People's Republic to be driven around. The Model S was designed to be the perfect driver's car, Musk said, but in China it will have an "executive back seat" instead of the "family back seat" the car has now. Things like this mean that work on the Model X won't really start to ramp up until the end of this year. Deliveries of that car should start at the end of 2014.

Looking further down the road, Musk said that the next-gen Tesla vehicle, the long-rumored $35,000 (without any subsidies) EV, should be a compelling option with a 200-mile range. That vehicle is still quite far away – he wondered aloud how his company might need more battery cells than the laptop industry does if it's making a half-million cars a year – but at least his automotive competition now has targets to shoot for if they want to beat Tesla in the longer-range EV game.


TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS:
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-57 next last

1 posted on 08/07/2013 10:51:25 PM PDT by grundle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: grundle

They must’ve sold more than that.

I know of 5 or 6 here in my lil town of 50,000 and I pass em all day long on the freeway.

They were every where in Los Angeles, San Diego and even on the border a week ago.

Maybe they were following me?


2 posted on 08/07/2013 10:59:17 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: grundle

Any 15 year old POS used car that sells for less than two grand has a better range than that and can be re-fueled in minutes. My $100 30-year-old Mercedes has a better range than that. Please explain to me the upside of the Tesla vehicles.


3 posted on 08/07/2013 10:59:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

My 22 year old specialized Hardrock mountain bike has better range than the Tesla (though, it’s doubtful I would be able to do that range at my current age).


4 posted on 08/07/2013 11:07:39 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SoldierDad

Why would I pay $70,000 for a golf cart? IMO very few automobiles are worth more than about $20,000.


5 posted on 08/07/2013 11:11:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Vendome

I wouldn’t want to go on a cross country trip in one!!!


6 posted on 08/07/2013 11:11:28 PM PDT by tallyhoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
The upside..probably none...

I fail to see reason for the hostility many folks calling themselves conservative have to EV’s.

If there is a market seems to me there should be no problem...personally I think the torque/weight ratio is going to make those suckers very very fast with a few modifications..

Cant wait to get mt hands on a used EV.

7 posted on 08/07/2013 11:16:56 PM PDT by montanajoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: montanajoe

IIRC, you’ll get a big shock when you have to replace all those batteries. Some people who have hybrids have already found that out to their chagrin. When the price comes WAY down and the range goes WAY up I’ll research them again. BTW, speaking of “alternative energy” vehicles, have you seen the Honda Civic Natural Gas?

http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-natural-gas/


8 posted on 08/07/2013 11:20:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve never purchased a new vehicle. IMO they are most all overpriced. I’ve never paid more than $11,000 for a used vehicle. Our Dodge Durango we paid $10,000 for. It had under 100k miles when I purchased it in 2005. Currently I have 247k+ miles on it. I plan to put another 100K on before replacing it. My last vehicle, a Plymouth Grand Voyager, which had 75k miles when we bought it, had 385k miles when we replaced it. We put over 200k miles on an 1988 Ford Taurus, and 200k+ on a 1983 Chrysler New Yorker 5th Ave (both had more than 300k miles total). We get our money’s worth out of our vehicles.


9 posted on 08/07/2013 11:21:12 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: tallyhoe

A friend shared that three people he knew were test driving an EV. Their destination was 150 miles away. It took them three days to reach their destination.


10 posted on 08/07/2013 11:23:14 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: montanajoe; 2ndDivisionVet
I fail to see reason for the hostility many folks calling themselves conservative have to EV’s.

Hostility towards the "concept" of an EV? No! Hostility towards those who have been touting EV's as a present day replacement for the internal combustion engine? Absolutely. Perhaps, and I stress perhaps, one day EV's will evolve into a viable mode of transportation. At the present time it is a local commuter, period. And, I mean local. My commute to work is two+ hours one way. An EV is worthless to me. Then there's the battery disposal and replacement problem. The batteries are not cheap, and neither is proper disposal. Additionally, those who make the false claim that EV's are a eco-friendly vehicle need to have the taste slapped out of their mouth. Where does the electricity come from that these vehicles require to be recharged with? It ain't from clean energy (whatever that means). EV's are purely a STATUS symbol. LOOK AT ME I HAVE A PRIUS; TESLA; whatever! I'll stick with my internal combustion vehicle which can take me up to 500 miles on a single tank of fuel, thank you. And, do so with very little in the way of emissions, too.

11 posted on 08/07/2013 11:32:19 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Vendome

200 miles is nothing in LA. I cover that in no time.


12 posted on 08/07/2013 11:35:24 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: tallyhoe

You will in the next version.


13 posted on 08/07/2013 11:41:09 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: SoldierDad

1st up you are paying for a top of the line luxury car. Even if you treat the electric motor as a novelty,the car is worth the price for the way it drives. From a national interest perspective I can’t wait for a day when all we run are electric cars that can be charged with a solar panel on your roof. That is the definition of individual freedom. Beggaring a host of countries that seek to murder non-Muslims is a huge added bonus. The subsidies are a sidelight and a sort of pinprick for a larger goal. Subordinating everything to the belly in the short term and helping dim witted jerks to kill us is the definition on a non-conservative.


14 posted on 08/07/2013 11:48:35 PM PDT by raj bhatia
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: BunnySlippers

Not in rush hour traffic you don’t.


15 posted on 08/07/2013 11:54:16 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Jonty30

Agreed. I don’t do “rush hours”.


16 posted on 08/07/2013 11:58:18 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: grundle

Beautiful car.

17 posted on 08/08/2013 12:08:02 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rich man’s toy/status symbol. I don’t think anyone is getting these to be a daily driver.


18 posted on 08/08/2013 12:09:33 AM PDT by Arthurio
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: SoldierDad
An EV is not a viable option for me and most rural/suburban Americans but it is potentially very viable in the third world mega cities where a 500 mile range seems just as ridiculous looking from the other side of the glass.

BTW I don't want a hybrid I want a used pure EV to play with don't like the term but I'm an early adapter/pick er up er/what ever they call it/fiddler.

Your hostility argument seems to me to be argument without a distinction...but its like most conservative argument in that it is based on what will work in fly over country..

19 posted on 08/08/2013 12:10:08 AM PDT by montanajoe
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: SoldierDad
"I fail to see reason for the hostility many folks calling themselves conservative have to EV’s."

How much damage to the environment does battery manufacture and electrical supply for electric cars cause? Much!

20 posted on 08/08/2013 12:13:22 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-57 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson