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Kan. voters' limbo shows hitch in citizenship law
Associated Press ^ | August 15, 2013 | John Hanna

Posted on 08/15/2013 1:15:07 PM PDT by Twotone

TOPEKA, Kan. (AP) -- A few weeks after moving to suburban Kansas City from the Seattle area, Aaron Belenky went online to register to vote. But he ended up joining thousands of other Kansas residents whose voting rights are in legal limbo because of the state's new proof-of-citizenship rule.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: elections; kansas; voting

1 posted on 08/15/2013 1:15:07 PM PDT by Twotone
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To: Twotone

GOOD!


2 posted on 08/15/2013 1:20:20 PM PDT by vpintheak (I am thankful to be God blessed & chosen! Are you!?)
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To: Twotone

Belenky, a 39-year-old computer programmer, has his birth certificate and a passport but said he’d have to open and riffle through boxes in his Overland Park apartment to find them and comply with a rule that doesn’t exist across most of the rest of the nation.

Being lazy or stupid or both has its consequences...........


3 posted on 08/15/2013 1:22:11 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I go to sign for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: Twotone

If the lazy little leftard toad can’t be bothered to dig through boxes to find his documents proving that he is a citizen... then he is too lazy and stupid to vote. He is just a communist activist.


4 posted on 08/15/2013 1:24:43 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: Twotone
Belenky, a 39-year-old computer programmer, has his birth certificate and a passport but said he'd have to open and riffle through boxes in his Overland Park apartment to find them and comply with a rule that doesn't exist across most of the rest of the nation.

OMG!! The horror! This A** wipe has to be a D.

And now, the prospective Kansas Democrat

Thought so

is irritated enough that he is ready to join a legal challenge.

Hmmm. Tough call. What is more difficult, cleaning up an apartment or filing a law suit?

5 posted on 08/15/2013 1:29:19 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (0bama lied, Stevens died, now 0bama covers up the lies.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
he’d have to open and riffle through boxes in his Overland Park apartment to find them and comply with a rule that doesn’t exist across most of the rest of the nation.

I moved to Overland Park, Kansas City from TN in 1980. I had to open boxes to get to my birth certificate to get a lot of things, including a driver's license and I took it with me to register to vote. Just seemed like the smart thing to do.

What is wrong with people?

6 posted on 08/15/2013 1:29:20 PM PDT by Bronzewound (Lost Hope & Loose Change)
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To: Twotone

How did he get a job?


7 posted on 08/15/2013 1:32:17 PM PDT by axxmann (If McCain is conservative then I'm a freakin' anarchist.)
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To: Twotone

what stupid propaganda the Associated Press brings us!

what did they consider “newsworthy” about this story?
1. if he is a citizen of the USA, that there is a lazy bum who doesn’t even want to reach into a box to pull out his damned birth certificate?
2. if he is not a citizen of the USA, that he is too damned lazy, or just not clever enough, to create a fake birth certificate (like big time politicians do these days) using his little laptop computer? Why, we know a nice “Hawaiian” one that’s all over the internet that he could use as a ready-made template...
3. if he is not a citizen of USA, that he is too damned lazy to just go down the block and buy a fake birth certificate for $20, or use some else’s social security number, maybe one from a corpse in Connecticut perhaps?
4. or what?


8 posted on 08/15/2013 1:34:37 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (E)
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To: Bronzewound
What is wrong with people?

On the assumption you don't have weeks and months, here's the short version: half the people in America are below average.

9 posted on 08/15/2013 1:35:48 PM PDT by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: Twotone

According to their website, you need to show proof of citizenship to get a driver’s license. How did he get that and not have the same identification for voter registration?


10 posted on 08/15/2013 1:37:28 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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To: Twotone

Oh, please!!! Proving citizenship is as easy as breathing.


11 posted on 08/15/2013 1:38:01 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Twotone
I'll bet this piece of excrement is able to present ID at the “medical marijuana” store.
12 posted on 08/15/2013 1:41:29 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: Twotone
I'm too lazy to obey the law, therefore the law is bad?

Can I use that one too? With the IRS?

13 posted on 08/15/2013 1:41:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: vpintheak

Unless things have changed drastically since I last lived in Kansas, they did not have elections every day. Hopefully, he will be able to clean up his apartment by the next election.


14 posted on 08/15/2013 1:43:59 PM PDT by etcb
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To: Bronzewound
I moved to Overland Park, Kansas City from TN in 1980. I had to open boxes to get to my birth certificate to get a lot of things, including a driver's license and I took it with me to register to vote.

A couple of months ago we had a special election to fill John Friggin Kerry's Senate seat (or course it was won by the Rat Party Marxist).I went to Town Hall to get an absentee ballot and was asked my name...but not for an ID.I asked why no ID was required and the clerk said that state law *forbids* anyone to ask for ID.I then asked her if someone registering to vote for the first time is required to prove US citizenship and she said "no,state law forbids that too".

Massachusetts.God only knows why I stay here.

15 posted on 08/15/2013 1:48:15 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: axxmann
How did he get a job?

This guy's complete laziness aside, the only time I've ever needed to show a birth certificate for a job was when I enlisted in the Navy.

16 posted on 08/15/2013 1:49:02 PM PDT by Drew68 (Cruz '16)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

And there are 15,000 more lazy b*st*rds. No sympathy here.


17 posted on 08/15/2013 1:50:02 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Twotone
Yep...

here he is on facebook

ACLU, George Takei, etc.

Also a member of Young Democrats of America when he lived in Seattle.


18 posted on 08/15/2013 1:52:36 PM PDT by Bronzewound (Lost Hope & Loose Change)
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To: Twotone
My FIL...was traveling just lately. He forgot his D.L.

He's 88 and feeble....They put him thru the wringer...asking him questions...demanding answers. The guy has early dementia....They harassed him!!..Bunch of B.S....

Yet....we can't ask for I.D. to vote?

19 posted on 08/15/2013 1:55:26 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: Standing Wolf
half the people in America are below average.

And 95% of the media are leftists.

Those two facts create a dangerous combination.

20 posted on 08/15/2013 1:57:57 PM PDT by Bronzewound (Lost Hope & Loose Change)
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To: Bronzewound

It tells me that 15,000 people are trying to vote illegally.


21 posted on 08/15/2013 1:59:28 PM PDT by Kanzan
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To: Kanzan

Or, in this guy’s situation, maybe vote in two places.


22 posted on 08/15/2013 2:00:28 PM PDT by Bronzewound (Lost Hope & Loose Change)
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To: All
Yep...

here he is on facebook

ACLU, George Takei, etc.

Also a member of Young Democrats of America when he lived in Seattle.

Below, he's shown with his voter registration papers outside his new digs in Overland Park, KS.

yes...I've posted it twice; I changed a couple of things.

23 posted on 08/15/2013 2:06:22 PM PDT by Bronzewound (Lost Hope & Loose Change)
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To: Bronzewound

Birth certificate, top drawer. Passport, top drawer. Backup ID - top drawer. What is this dude’s malfunction?


24 posted on 08/15/2013 2:14:14 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge
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To: Twotone

They ask for id for beer, what is the problem?


25 posted on 08/15/2013 2:20:45 PM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Twotone

Any state participating in the Real ID Act requires ALL persons seeking a drivers license or state ID to provide proof of birth in a embossed format. This is required in plenty of states. It is not as if the ‘poor’ chap couldn’t get another set of documents he in fact can. All he has to do is contact his state of birth and pay the appropriate fee.


26 posted on 08/15/2013 2:24:19 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Twotone
I sympathize after having to go through much of the same B.S. just to open a bank account and a P.O. Box.

Thank you, George W. Bush, a Republican Congress and the Patriot Act.

27 posted on 08/15/2013 2:27:27 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Nifster
All he has to do is contact his state of birth and pay the appropriate fee.

"All". All? Try getting anything out of your federal, state, county or city governments.

28 posted on 08/15/2013 2:31:09 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

I moved recently to Georgia. Georgia requires the same type of proof. PLUS I had to have a marriage certificate (embossed) as well (from an entirely different state).

It took my all of three days (total complete) to get both documents. Apparently you haven’t ever tried. Again I say ALL he had to do was contact the state and county he was born in and pay a fee. END OF STORY. The man is lazy and has no desire to prove that he is a citizen and THEREFORE has the right to vote.

I do NOT want NON citizens voting. It is bad enough that non-registered voters can vote and register on the same day and that voting has been extending out for weeks on end. Voting used to be at a particular time and place on a given day. Either you are to young to remember that or you just don’t care about the integrity of the vote


29 posted on 08/15/2013 2:36:24 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
I don't want to have to show my "papers" when I was born here and have never been more than 500 miles from the place of my birth.

I had to prove my citizenship to my Godfather in order to open up a checking account.

That's B.S. and I resent it.

30 posted on 08/15/2013 2:43:07 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Bronzewound

He’s liable to not like Kansas as much as he thought. Might want to move over to the east side of State Line.


31 posted on 08/15/2013 2:47:14 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Grams A

I lived in KC for more than two decades, so I can chuckle with you on that.


32 posted on 08/15/2013 2:55:18 PM PDT by Bronzewound (Lost Hope & Loose Change)
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To: Bronzewound

Both my kids graduated from Shawnee Mission high schools in the 1980’s. Just a great place to raise a family. Leawood does tend to be more than a little left wing and snooty though. Friday night was baseball or football and Saturday night was always off to the demolition derby and funny car races with friends at Riverside which we watched from the back end of our pick-up while drinking beer. Life was good!

What always amazed me was that everyone was convinced that if you lived in Johnson County you obviously had big bucks. Looking back on those days now, I would have to say we were but it certainly had nothing to do with money, just quality of life.


33 posted on 08/15/2013 5:28:18 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: elkfersupper

that may be but if you live in a real ID state you will have to prove your citizenship to get a driver’s license


34 posted on 08/15/2013 8:00:42 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
It is not as if the ‘poor’ chap couldn’t get another set of documents he in fact can. All he has to do is contact his state of birth and pay the appropriate fee.

Unless he is naturalized, and was born in a foreign country. As I was. Arrived in San Francisco when I was eight.

In a baffling twist, I was naturalized as soon as I was able, when I was 18 and still have my Original naturalization certificate. When I tried to apply for Social Security 58 years later, that certificate was not sufficient to establish my identity.
The bureaucracy insisted on an original (embossed) Birth Certificate, which was destroyed in a fire when I was 20. The Records office in my country of origin was destroyed by earthquake and fire and the records were destroyed. But in the meantime, I had had a U.S. passport for almost 40 years, but that, too, was insufficient.

Bottom line, it took three years to get a document, and it took a trip by a relative who had connections to be able to get the required documentation.

This all happened, of course, long before I could get an illegal to walk me through the "other" way to get things done.

35 posted on 08/15/2013 8:24:01 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: publius911

Don’t know about social security but for the driver’s license the passport and naturalization papers would have been enough


36 posted on 08/15/2013 8:28:31 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Nifster
that may be but if you live in a real ID state you will have to prove your citizenship to get a driver’s license

If you never ask for a driver license, you don't need one.

Wars were fought over the right to peaceably travel in or on contemporary conveyances without interference by government revenue agents.

37 posted on 08/16/2013 12:36:53 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: elkfersupper

Go ahead and fight your war.


38 posted on 08/16/2013 2:24:27 PM PDT by Nifster
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