The Presidential eligibility of Ted Cruz

8/29/13 | Lakeshark

[Lakeshark]

The Presidential Eligibility of Ted Cruz

Got your attention yet? I have a modest proposal for ALL FReepers concerning this issue, but let me explain why there is a proposal at all.

The last couple of weeks our venerable and sainted media (peace be unto them) has decided to, after all these years of silence, bring up the issue of Presidential eligibility. The strange appearance of article after article would make you think they were about to expose the birth certificate of messiah Bambi from a Kenyan hospital and show proof of a renouncement of his citizenship while in Indonesia .

Alas, no it’s not about the eligibility of our current fearless reader, instead it’s about the eligibility of Senator Ted Cruz. For those of us hiding under rocks, Ted Cruz just happens to be one of the finest conservatives to hold office. He’s smart, engaging, persuasive, handles MSM traitors journolists like pathetic kindergartners begging for more candy, presents conservatism naturally as a compelling counter to totalitarian leftismliberalism, plus he really wants to move the country to the right normal place of excellence it once was.

Right now, Ted Cruz is trying to rally the GOP to try to defund Bambicare. He is lobbying for it in the Senate, the House, and more important is rallying the GOP voters to sign a petition urging all GOP members of Congress to join the effort to defund this monstrosity. He is in the breach, fighting the good fight, he is the spearhead of this effort. With this and other efforts he appears to have risen to the top of the leadership of conservatives in America. He has the ear and confidence of most conservatives at this point.

So, does anyone hear believe the MSM is interested in simply following the Constitution when they bring up the question of his eligibility? If you do, read no further. If you don’t believe the MSM wants us to be fighting amongst ourselves at this point, read no further.

Based on what I’ve said above: Here is my proposal:

As conservatives, as FReepers, let’s no longer do what the MSM/Soros/democrat complex wants us to do on this issue, namely fight over the eligibility of Ted Cruz and divide the conservative movement at this crucial time. For those of you who believe he is not eligible, understand these two facts:
1. Senator Cruz has not declared for a presidential run at this point, so there is NO issue. Kindly stop making it an issue, particularly right now. Stop. Cease. Desist. It is not important, he’s not running yet. Kindly don't post articles from the MSM or comment on said articles if they are only about the eligibility of Ted Cruz.
2.You are doing the bidding of the MSM/Soros/democrat complex when you do so. They’ve made it clear they want to divide us on this issue, don’t take the bait. Also, see 1. above. Kindly realize that when the Wa ComPost runs 12 articles in 2 days about this issue, it’s not to help conservatives unite.

For those of us who think he is eligible. Remember number 1. above: He is not yet running, there are more important things to do right now. If you see someone on the opposing side, I suggest you link them to this proposal and ask them if they want to continue to divide conservatives during this crucial time, ask them if they really want to carry the water of the media/Soros/democrat complex.

So here again to all: Let’s call a truce on this issue. Not to surrender your beliefs, no one has to do that yet, he is not running. Rather, let’s unite behind the conservative principles that Cruz is pointing us all to, particularly let’s unite to ask the GOP to defund Bambicare. It’s important to do so rather than to quibble over what is at this time, a nonexistent issue ginned up by our domestic opposition.

Thank you for your support.

[iontheball]

As Freepers we have to accept the fact that we can not conclusively decide this issue; it is clearly Constitutional derived, making it tge singular responsibility of the U.S. Supreme Court. Now, having said that, my memory is not so faint as to recall all the ‘no standing’ dismissals with Obummer. Before he was nominated by the Democratic Convention, the courts ran away from the issue by saying the issue was not ripe because Obummer was not yet a presidential candidate. Then after he was nominated, the courts dismissed again saying he was not yet elected president so the issue was still moot. Then after he was elected, the courts said they didn't need to decide the issue because he had been publicly fully vetted and it was too late to get involved. The sum of this is that government officials no longer abide by laws any longer, it is whatever they can get away with that matters. As a side note, Obummer is now saying he alone is going to ‘edict away’ our Second Amendment rights. While we can not decide the eligibility issue, the Courts, whose job it is to decide, continue to flatly refuse to do their job. This is the treachery of having to live every day under tyranny.

[OneWingedShark]

The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

Given how judges get things exactly wrong and call it "constitutional" I'm going to say BS!.
The Constitution is exactly a suicide pact, as we saw in the Civil War it's a Federation, where the member-states cannot leave of their own free will, and (as we've seen many, many times) the Federal Government reigns supreme over the People and the States.

[/venting]
Yeah, that's not supposed to be how the Constitution works, but ask yourself this: if we followed dtrictly the Constitution, how different would the US be

[GBA]

obama, Harry Reid and John's Boner, along with the rest of the progressives in Congress, would have a great deal to fear from Majority Leader Cruz.

I like the sound of that and what's not to love?

Besides, even if Cruz was elected POTUS, he could be countered and his efforts undone, just like with Reagan.

How long did it take to completely undo all but the memory of Reagan's time in office?

[SoConPubbie]

Ted Cruz Ping!

[Timber Rattler]

Amen!!!

[Jack Hydrazine]

He has dual citizenship so there shouldn’t be problems, correct?

[SoConPubbie]

It's really too bad that the brightest shining conservative star we have is not a natural born American citizen, but like Lakeshark said, he has not said anything about running for President at this time.

Once again, please show us where in the Constitution, your opinion of what it means to be "Natural born" is defined.

Lacking that, please show us the relevant US Law(s) passed by Congress and signed by a US President that prove your OPINION correct.

Lacking that, please show us the relevant Supreme Court Ruling(s) that prove your OPINION correct.

[Tau Food]

Ted Cruz - 2016

[SoConPubbie]

Besides, even if Cruz was elected POTUS, he could be countered and his efforts undone, just like with Reagan.

How long did it take to completely undo all but the memory of Reagan's time in office?

We're doomed I tell ya, DOOMED!

We might as well not even try and simply accept what ever Progressive Liberal the GOP-E throws up, because it ain't even worth trying, right?

[SoConPubbie]

He has dual citizenship so there shouldn’t be problems, correct?

The fear of Dual citizenship was based on divided loyalties.

Ted was not even aware of his Dual Citizen ship until recently, at which time he stated he would renounce his Canadian citizenship which process I believe he has already started.

Knowing what you know about Senator Cruz, do you even see a hint of divided loyalties?

[Lakeshark]

Since he has not declared for President, because we have pressing issues with the defunding of Bambicare, can we let the argument go?

The MSM wants us to wrangel over an issue we will never resolve her on FR. Let me say that again, this is an issue WE WILL NEVER RESOLVE WITH OUR DISCUSSION ON FR, NEVER. And the MSM wants us to waste our time on it when he hasn't declared a run for the Presidency.

Let's simply stop, and unite over the defunding effort.

[txhurl]

What *might* work is [CLOSED] Cruz threads. If NBC is not referenced in the body of the article, then anybody dragging up NBC on that thread gets a removal. Three removals = zot.

[Norm Lenhart]

“We might as well not even try and simply accept what ever Progressive Liberal the GOP-E throws up, because it ain’t even worth trying, right? “

Well they did surrender to Romney...

Seriously though, There is a question. And the Dems will use it. They don’t care about hypocracy. They will pretend their Obama problem never happened. The courts have to settle this. For everyone’s sake. One way ot the other. THAT is what we should be fighting for now so it is a null issue come election and even primary day.

[Lakeshark]

That’s an issue for JR to resolve. We can suggest, he makes the decision.

[DiogenesLamp]

Diogenes Lamp, I'm asking you and those who are deeply involved with the eligibility question to cease for now, to stop and unite with other conservatives over the issues at hand, namely the defunding of Bambicare. Kindly ping the list of your FRiends and think about this proposal.

I have been thinking of doing this anyway. I really don't like focusing on Ted Cruz. My position is that I don't think he meets the technical requirements, but I think he meets the spiritual requirements.

At this point I feel that if the Democrats don't have to comply, then we should feel no obligation to do so either.

My only problem is how some people goad me into responding. It's very difficult to tolerate people pushing me when I believe i'm right. I'll try to control the impulse.

[Jack Hydrazine]

He’s as Texan as they come!

[Lakeshark]

Thank you for your response. Would you mind pinging your friends on this issue, I don't know any list, or many I have had discussions with, it would help a lot to get feedback on my proposal from most of those who hold your opinion.

Thanks again, your input is appreciated.

[txhurl]

Can we have [CLOSED] Cruz threads to keep the NBCers from ***sing all over everything if NBC is not in the actual article posted?

[Arthur McGowan]

If a Rep. or Sen. must be a “citizen,” then either a born citizen or a naturalized citizen is eligible.

A naturalized citizen is ineligible to be President.

That is all that the text of the Constitution makes clear.

Whether a “natural born” citizen is someone other than a person who was born a citizen is not evident from the text of the Constitution.

[Georgia Girl 2]

I’ve gone from being a birther to I don’t give flip on eligibility. If we don’t get someone who is conservative, patriotic and courageous in the Whitehouse soon there will be no America or constitution to argue over.

If Ted runs in 2016 he has my vote. At least we actually do know for sure where he was born and who is real daddy is.