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How to Constitutionally Fund the Government: It’s the House’s prerogative to supply funds, or not...
National Review Online ^ | September 28, 2013 | Andrew C. McCarthy

Posted on 09/28/2013 1:37:44 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: Cyber Liberty
Agree. Our nation made incredible mistakes. Lets repeal the 16th, 17th amendments as we did the 18th.
21 posted on 09/28/2013 2:36:25 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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To: Jim Robinson; jazusamo
"Another great article by someone who knows how the government is "supposed" to be funded."
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McCarthy: "The American people do not want Obamacare, and the representatives closest to them have voted not to spend the people’s money on it. According to the Constitution, that should be the end of the matter."
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Jim R has been saying this for...ever... Most recently"

Bottom line, Obamacare is an unconstitutional Marxist boondoggle that will destroy our nation

ALL: House will be back in session at 5:30

JR: Just learned of your operation on Monday. All FR will be holding you in our prayers.

22 posted on 09/28/2013 2:36:53 PM PDT by thouworm (A lawless oligarchy has replaced our Constitution-based govt. Their motto: Catch us if you can.)
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To: neverdem
Senator Cruz, along with Senator Mike Lee and House conservatives, devised a strategy to forestall the unpopular socialized-medicine scheme that Democrats unilaterally rammed through Congress in 2010. They would starve it of funds, not unlike the way Democrats and Republicans have slashed funds for fence construction along the Mexican border, even though the fence has been the law of the land for seven years.

A brilliant parallel, and WHY hasn't this been brought up before??!!?

23 posted on 09/28/2013 2:42:06 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Jim Robinson; Lazamataz
Don't let the title fool you.

It Doesn't Matter If the Obamacare Defunding Gambit Fails

It matters next to nothing if current Republican efforts succeed in immediately defunding Obamacare. That's because this is just the opening round of what promises to be a protracted struggle to restore sanity to the American health care system. A temporary defeat at one juncture on the road to repeal isn't really a defeat at all, provided that it serves a larger purpose. Obamacare, after all, wasn't enacted in a day and it won't be repealed in a day.

Both the Ted Cruz talkathon and the brinksmanship over the stop-gap government funding measure (called a "continuing resolution") epitomize purposeful political theater.

Ignore the blatherskite spewing from GOP establishment talking heads like Karl Rove: there is absolutely nothing wrong with doing political things strictly for public consumption even when there is a less-than-direct or less-than-obvious relationship between the things done and the desired results. It's not somehow dishonest or dishonorable to do this, contrary to the protestations of the pompous pundits who suck up air in the Washington echo chamber.

In this age of instant everything, we tend to forget that politics isn't always about concrete, instantaneous results. It's about symbolism. It's about focusing the attention of people in order to educate them. It's about framing the issues properly, telling stories, and planting memes in public spaces, allowing them to spread like dandelion seeds on a passing breeze. That's how Americans were brainwashed into believing that Republicans are the "party of the rich" and gazillionaire George Soros's Democrats are the caring party of compassion.

In short, the Tea Party needs to go Alinksy. And when they get called teabaggers, they need to be addressed some variation of commie, marxist, pinko, etc.

24 posted on 09/28/2013 2:51:28 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: neverdem; Jim Robinson; All
The American people do not want Obamacare, and the representatives closest to them have voted not to spend the people’s money on it. According to the Constitution, that should be the end of the matter.

Perfect and is what Boehner should tell the Senate and the Marxist.

25 posted on 09/28/2013 2:52:30 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: PJ-Comix; DeWalt
And yet ObamaCare originated in the Senate.

There's another federal court case because of that. I don't know what happened to it.

26 posted on 09/28/2013 3:00:42 PM PDT by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: Jim Robinson

Brilliantly presented and it reads like poetry to me.

As Andrew C. McCarthy said, “According to the Constitution, that should be the end of the matter.”

Defund the damn thing.


27 posted on 09/28/2013 3:07:18 PM PDT by Gator113 (The mighty Bear ate the cowardly rat. Obama must resign.)
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To: thouworm
Jim R has been saying this for...ever... Most recently"

I know, and he's been saying it loud and clear.

28 posted on 09/28/2013 3:12:35 PM PDT by jazusamo ([Obama] A Truly Great Phony -- Thomas Sowell http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3058949/posts)
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To: Jim Robinson; neverdem
Thank you for the ping!

neverdem, thanks for posting. WOW!!! This is what FReepers have been saying.

And it matches my new tagline.

29 posted on 09/28/2013 3:17:32 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Cyber Liberty

I agree.


30 posted on 09/28/2013 3:20:31 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Cyber Liberty

it was a first battle in getting the republicans out of the way in order to get our country back.

It went very well.

I picture Cornyn pacing around his ranch, perhaps a drink in hand, his wife out and about, a few unwanted phone calls, muttering to himself.

McConnell is the same, delayed by about a month.

Boehner is delaying obamacare for long enough to ensure it doesn’t effect the 2014 elections.

All slowly realizing that the massive amounts of people very badly affected by obamacare are done with these golfers. And now they know whom to turn to.

Their party is over.

Cruz hasn’t miscalculated anything, including that he is a freshman senator who just took de facto charge.


31 posted on 09/28/2013 3:34:25 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Uncle Chip

If Obama can selectively enforce laws enacted by Congress, then the House ought to be able to selectively fund their laws.


32 posted on 09/28/2013 3:37:57 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices.")
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To: stanne
Boehner is delaying obamacare for long enough to ensure it doesn’t effect the 2014 elections.

I'd be interested in seeing your reasoning that concludes having a nuclear blast a month before the 2014 elections doesn't affect the 2014 elections. I really would.

33 posted on 09/28/2013 3:40:59 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Jim Robinson; neverdem

BUMP


34 posted on 09/28/2013 3:41:35 PM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: alphadog
This bill went to the Senate where Majority Leader Harry Reid gutted H.R. 3590, deleted all the contents after the first sentence, and replaced it with what became the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act” of November 19, 2009.

Yes. Outrageous. Have you heard about the status of the lawsuit to challenge this in the Supreme Court?

35 posted on 09/28/2013 3:42:25 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Benghazi, NSA spying, IRS scandal, $6 million personal vacations every six months, Obama shutting down the government over a complete abomination, running up more debt in 5 years than all other presidents COMBINED, appointing Kerry, Hagel, Hillary, Rice, Powers to top positions, to name a few disaster for which BO and the democrats take zero responsibility.

You don’t follow these stories, do you?


36 posted on 09/28/2013 3:46:34 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Of course I follow them. You forgot to mention George Zimmerman’s getting screwed and Marco Rubio’s pushing amnesty. You’re a piker. But it appears you think I am incapable of following all of them. You must think me stupid?

Distraction Trolls get the same good treatment from me as Concern Trolls. Piss off.


37 posted on 09/28/2013 3:58:53 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Cyber Liberty

We are supposed to think delaying obamacare is a good strategy? We are supposed to think the media and the public will come to their senses in a year, in the last month of that year and vote for the people trying to save us from it?

When they did not try to save us from it, they just put it off for a year in order to retain their tee times?

No


38 posted on 09/28/2013 4:03:09 PM PDT by stanne
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To: Cyber Liberty

If you are under the impression that Senator Cruz and Senator Lee were pushing for this, you are misguided.

A man doesn’t stand ad deliver for 21+ hours to delay a disastrous law.

Defund it.

Distraction, indeed.


39 posted on 09/28/2013 4:05:34 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

You really need to get some rest, stanne. I mean that sincerely.

Nobody is ever going to give you a magic wand to make everything operate as you think it should. It’s sad, I know, but it’s the way things go. I wish somebody would explain that to Ron Paul.


40 posted on 09/28/2013 4:09:23 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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