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2015 Obamacare Enrollment Will Be Delayed Until Just After the Midterms
New York Magazine ^ | November 21, 2013 | Margaret Hartmann

Posted on 11/21/2013 11:31:23 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: Berlin_Freeper

You don’t even need a huge number of people to do that. I got yelled at for not giving enough notice when I wanted 10k in cash last year.


21 posted on 11/22/2013 12:22:34 AM PST by ToastedHead
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks 2ndDivisionVet
The White House is planning to tweak Obamacare deadlines again to make up for the botched rollout, and the latest move appears to be both practical and politically advantageous.
Law? He don't need no steeeenkeeeeeng law!


22 posted on 11/22/2013 12:24:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

It can only work about once. They are moving to electronic money as soon as they can.


23 posted on 11/22/2013 12:27:12 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And now that the communists have made the Senate a rubber stamp for il Douchebag, the COURTS where this will be appealed will be stuffed full of Obama Cultists!

Enjoy your tyranny, America.

24 posted on 11/22/2013 12:36:53 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

It ain’t the earthly institutions that are going to have the last word, unless we choose to let it be thus.

Heavenly institutions DO have the last word.

Just forget for a moment the chaos on earth and put in a call to God again.

We were too proud, we did not want to be saved, either in an earthly or eternal sense. So God gave us our way.

When we finally get tired of the devil’s fruit (lies lies lies) then God will again pop His face into the scene, saying “Miss Me yet?”

If the answer is heartily enough YES, then we will see amazing grace. On earth and in heaven. The bad elements on earth will be more and more thwarted, and eventually reformed to the good.


25 posted on 11/22/2013 12:41:13 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
This pushes the second wave of 100 million cancellations past the election.

I don't think so. The cancellation notices will have to go out by October 1, regardless of the sign-up deadline, in order to provide the required 90 day notice ahead of January 1, 2015 when the old policies have to be cancelled.

You can't outrun a train wreck unless you can step off the tracks, and that's a step that the Obamaites are entirely unwilling to take.

Still, between now and the mid-term elections there will be a continuing and ever growing chorus of folks being denied doctors, access to hospitals, their former providers no longer in their networks, huge deductibles, outrageous premiums, on and on.

The big story over the next year is going to be the enormous number of individuals and families who simply refuse to participate in this fraud, the rise of cash-up-front doctor networks, and the destruction of the insurance companies' risk pools.

Obama and his idiot legions have set the Calder mobile a twitching, and the more they touch it trying to get it to stop, the more it will twitch, jiggle and vibrate. They have truly set off a wave of unintended consequences that will continue unabated for months if not years to come. The scope of the damage this law is going do to individuals and families, to say nothing of the general economy, is monumental, and it's too late to do much of anything about it now, other than for individuals and families to protect themselves by totally opting out until the process has played itself out around 2017.

26 posted on 11/22/2013 12:47:57 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine
Obama and his idiot legions have set the Calder mobile a twitching, and the more they touch it trying to get it to stop, the more it will twitch, jiggle and vibrate.

Awesome analogy.
27 posted on 11/22/2013 1:01:56 AM PST by 867V309 (Obama- he's just crazy enough to do it.)
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To: John Valentine

You don’t think there will be another decree? Maybe push it out another month, maybe abolish the 90 day lead time?

No decrees! Enforce the law.


28 posted on 11/22/2013 1:06:01 AM PST by Ray76
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To: funfan
But what about all the people who have already been kicked off their insurance or their Doctor is no longer available? They have already been adversely affected and in 2014 come Tax day there will be some mad people who will be having to pay not a 95.00 penalty as they were told but 1% of their salary for not having insurance what about those people they will be pissed.

Here's what. Some may say this is not responsible, but I say that I have been doing this for years now.

OPT OUT

I don't subscribe to health insurance. At all. I would like a true catastrophic policy, but that has now been made illegal. But for anything else, I'll take my chances.

What to I get for this? Well, for one thing I get my choice of doctor and hospital. I am not constrained by any "network" or other BS, and I can tell you that doctors are generally more than happy to give me a true and substantial discount in rreturn for being paid on the day of service, in full, without reams of paperwork. Take my word for it, and beyond that I can tell you that internet services linking patients with cash doctors clinics and hospitals already exist and will now grow exponentially.

I also don't worry about annual deductibles or co-pays that sometimes don't kick in until you have spent waaay more than I typically do in a year. An average family could easily pay out $15,000 to $20,000 or more before seeing one cent in insurance reimbursement with many of these junk plans sold on the government fraud site. I hardly ever spend more than a few thousand dollars in a years time.

I'm saving real money, folks, and I suggest that for many reasonably healthy folks, this is the way to go, especially for the next couple years when the penalties for non-participation in the fraud are jack squat.

And by "reasonably healthy" I don't mean totally healthy, I have numerous ailments which require periodic doctor visits and lab work, and also require me to purchase several medications on a regular basis. Still I save THOUSANDS a year.

As I said, I would like a true catastrophic policy, something with a $20,000 annual deductible, a reasonable co-pay, like 80-20 or 90-10, and an annual out of pocket limit of say, $30,000. This is to protect me against an end-of-life event. But, as I said, it is now illegal for an insurance company to offer me such a policy. So I do without.

But that doesn't mean if have to make myself doubly a victim, and I recommend to everyone who reads this to spread the word.

OPT OUT.

29 posted on 11/22/2013 1:08:22 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Ray76

Barack laughs at your advice.

Pay attention folks. God is teaching a lesson here in reaping what one sows. Whether it is quick or long is up to the students.


30 posted on 11/22/2013 1:08:35 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Ray76

I fully expect it will ALL be done by decree. This jerk couldn’t get a law through Congress again if his life depended on it. The entire balance of his rule will be done entirely by illegal decree.

Will Congress stand for it? I don’t see that they have much choice unless something huge happens in November 2014.


31 posted on 11/22/2013 1:11:06 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine

Something went really offkilter when catastrophic insurance was banned. Well, being wimpy and not standing up to this earlier has earned a whole nation a lesson.

I doubt that preaching sanctimoniously on private bulletin boards is going to help anyone. I want to see who is going to march on Washington.


32 posted on 11/22/2013 1:11:33 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: John Valentine

In principle... if enough Democrats get disgusted with this, an impeachment/conviction could happen.


33 posted on 11/22/2013 1:12:25 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: John Valentine

And really, a bunch of Democrats needs a scapegoat desperately now. Why not our dear Big Ears?


34 posted on 11/22/2013 1:13:16 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: 867V309
Awesome analogy.

It is, but I can't take credit for it. I think it was Charles Krauthammer's.

35 posted on 11/22/2013 1:14:24 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine

Thanks for posting.


36 posted on 11/22/2013 1:20:57 AM PST by 867V309 (Obama- he's just crazy enough to do it.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I wasn’t trying to be sanctimonious, I am giving what I think is very practical advice. OPT OUT.

http://www.cashdoctor.com/

http://money.cnn.com/2013/06/11/news/economy/cash-only-doctors/

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/money-talks-obamacare-walks-some-doctors-to-accept-cash-only_102013

This phenomenon is going to explode in 2014, and will it KILL the exchanges.

OPT OUT of Obamacare.


37 posted on 11/22/2013 1:22:08 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Doesn't matter, no one is going to sign up anyway.

It is the insurance cancellations that aren't going to be stopped and that is what is infuriating the American People.

38 posted on 11/22/2013 1:25:49 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: chessplayer

Enough damage will be done to unseat the Democrats.


39 posted on 11/22/2013 1:26:28 AM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: John Valentine

Others have been sanctimonious — not speaking of you — though as they say in French, something like s’excuse s’accuse.


40 posted on 11/22/2013 1:28:07 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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