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Paul Ryan says Marco Rubio should 'read the deal and get back to me'
The Hill ^ | 12/12/2013 | Rebecca Shabad

Posted on 12/12/2013 10:20:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: lodi90

I am supporting no GOPers or RINO’s.

I am looking for a better chance to win many seats in 2014.
And to achieve that, another gov’t shutdown must be avoided.
I am looking at reality, not wishful thinking.


121 posted on 12/13/2013 3:20:38 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: GeronL

No one is getting replaced! There are no elections for a year!!


122 posted on 12/13/2013 3:33:43 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: entropy12

The GOPe is already on the warpath against conservatives


123 posted on 12/13/2013 3:35:41 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better; riverdawg

So, it is better to elect the servants of the Marxists rather than the Marxists themselves??? The only difference I see is that the servants protect Muffie’s trust fund which does not impress me enough to put them in charge. Are they not funding Obozocare? Are they not proving to be scared widdle rabbitsas who do what Obozo and his Demonrats demand? Are we gearing up to hear how “we” have to vote for Chris Christie because he is a smidgeon better than the Hildebeast? And then watch him appoint babykillers (he will claim it was a mistake) and perverts and other polo clubbers to SCOTUS??? No thanks! Now and forever. If the GOP wants my vote then it damn well better be prepared to deserve it. The more of us act that way, the better things will become.


124 posted on 12/13/2013 5:56:46 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: riverdawg

Agreed. How is President Romney doing?


125 posted on 12/13/2013 5:57:26 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: GeronL
The GOPe is already on the warpath against conservatives

That is quite understandable. Tea partiers are trying to change the norm of 50 years what the GOPe is used to and comfortable with.

If politically savvy candidates are fielded against the GOPe backed candidates, the chance of winning is good. For example Cruz & Paul. Both defeated GOPers and won in general.

It does absolutely no good to field candidates like MOurdock, AKin, O"donnell, Hoffman, etc because they lose in general to liberal democrats. Result is even worse than GOPers. That is the reality.

126 posted on 12/14/2013 8:38:10 AM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: House Atreides

Exactly. They are not going to pick a leader from a swing district.


127 posted on 12/14/2013 5:07:59 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal
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To: BlackElk

Most of which you’re implying I said, I did not actually say.


128 posted on 12/15/2013 6:06:25 AM PST by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better
If you find Romney, Ryan, McConnell and Boehner better than their actually Marxist and social revolutionary Demonrat overlords, then offer specifics rather than mere denial.

Did you happen to catch Ryan's sappy performance on Meet the Depressed this morning with his legislative love object Patty Murray? The two of them were slobbering all over each other in their newfound spirit of cooperation in the rape of the American taxpayer and the two-year deal to continue the destruction of this nation. They REALLY got to know and trust one another behind closed doors! Can't you just see the tears of joy flowing down Boehner's artificially tanned and naturally drunken cheeks? Perhaps he will have the opportunity to serve as best man at the political wedding of Murray and Ryan? And then, he can fight it out with Nancy Pelosi for who catches the bridal bouquet. Maybe Boehner/Pelosi political nuptials are in the offing.

Meanwhile, over at This Weak on ABC, we were treated to a lengthy cheer-leading session on "the Republican civil war," on how mean Rush Limbaugh is to Pope Francis, and everything interspersed with breathless interviews of Secretary of State John F'n (did you know he served in VietNam but served whom?) Kerry about how we will want to keep troops in Afghanistan for as long as necessary to guarantee that Afghani school girls will continue to be educated in Afghan schools among other social goals and about what a hero John F'n was in VietNam and how he shared a real "camaraderie" with Swift Boat vets (presumably the same ones who sunk his POTUS candidacy).

I skipped Deface the Nation. Did I miss anything?

Detail your degree of tolerance for Romney, Ryan, McConnell, Boehner and their ilk and your rationale.

You may be a fine person and a good conservative but don't you think it is about time that conservatives became collectively and individually pissed off at the trash who claim to lead our party and that we have an obligation to drive them from public life? If the "GOP" "wins" under such "leadership," what is "won" isn't worth a bucket of stale, ummm, ale. Just what is the point of merely slowing by a year or two the destruction of the nation?

Today's GOP is nothing but pale pastels and a subsidiary of Wall Street and the Demonrat Party. We NEED an opposition party and we don't have one.

Where is H. L. Mencken when we really need him?

129 posted on 12/15/2013 9:01:52 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: entropy12; GeronL
IIRC, Hoffman was a Congressional candidate in a special election in upstate New York. The "Republican" GOP-E candidate was a leftist named DeDe Scozzafava, servant of Planned Barrenhood, and, as a "GOP" state representative, an all purpose leftist. After Scozzafava lost her primary for Congress, she endorsed the Demonrat who won. As a result, the seat was available for a genuine Republican to win cleanly by being nominated in any subsequent election.

Todd Akin is and always has been a superb man, a superb Christian and served for years as one of our best members of Congress. His firm Christianity offended the Karl Rove/ Mike Murphy/ Mitt Romney/ Mitch McConnell/ John Boehner cabal of "GOP" quislings (the enemy within). Why Akin was not only militantly pro-life and unapologetically Christian but he even criticized NBC for filming school children saying the Pledge of Allegiance and editing out that embarrassing "under God" language that is sooooo aggravating to Muffy, Skipper, the Junior Leaguers and the polo players. Akin won a primary over other conservative candidates (no polo ponies in that race for the GOP-E to ride). He made a verbal blunder of major proportions in discussing the unlikelihood of pregnancy resulting from what he called "legitimate rape" by which he apparently meant forcible rape as opposed to statutory rape. Rove led the charge demanding his resignation from the race, the GOP-E followed suit along with the usual gang of feminazis and the desperately vulnerable Corruptocrat Claire McCaskill. Missouri can recover by defeating McCaskill in 2018 and electing a member of the reliably American and reliably conservative community. The GOP-E apparently wants Todd Akin to be the permanent poster boy for why we should nominate Muffy or Skipper for the Senate everywhere in the future even though they would generally lose in a genteel fashion more acceptable to the snobbicans. No thanks.

Mourdock defeated Richard Lugar who was about 900 years old and an abject servant of Obamaism on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Lugar had long deserved to be destroyed. He earned it. Law of the Sea Treaty? Panama Canal Treaty? How many more sellouts of American interests? He was a mealy-mouthed useless excuse for a Republican. Good riddance! The usual alliance of GOP-E and the Demonrats gang-raped Mourdock when he stated in a debate that pregnancy arising from rape was God's will. The winner in November was an allegedly pro-gun, allegedly pro-life Democrat Joe Donnelly, also an apparent foreign policy hawk. Indiana should come up with a solid conservative (Mike Pence?) not afflicted by foot in mouth disease to defeat Donnelly in 2018. Meanwhile, as Democrats go, Donnelly is not exactly a big problem such as Lugar always had been.

In the Delaware race, Senator Coons is leftist trash but so was Michael Castle. Christine O'Donnell was obviously not ready for prime time but Castle's House social revolutionary voting record, similar to Barney Frank, was an abject disgrace. Predictable the GOP-E jumped all over O'Donnell (having plenty of ammunition) because she had defeated the quisling Castle.

The reality is that electing trash like Lugar or Castle or Scozzafava is worse than electing Demonrats.

Bear in mind that when a Demonrat is elected, rather than a RINO/CINO, you are one election from reclaiming the seat in a straight up match against the Demonrat. If you elect a RINO/CINO Demonrat in "GOP" drag, you have to defeat the RINO/CINO and probably lose the election if you do. Then you come back a full six years after that if you are fortunate.

130 posted on 12/15/2013 10:10:35 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: BlackElk; KC_Lion

bump

this is why the “Uniparty” label fits so well


131 posted on 12/15/2013 10:13:04 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: BlackElk; GeronL; who knows what evil?

132 posted on 12/15/2013 10:19:45 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion
The "Awake" Party... I like that!
133 posted on 12/15/2013 10:21:24 AM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: KC_Lion

bump


134 posted on 12/15/2013 11:11:14 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: BlackElk

Except...Obamacare was voted down by 100% of republicans.
And that includes all slimy RINO’s.

Where as almost all democRATS voted for Obamacare.

Obamacare is going to screw us up more than any other law passed by the leftists.


135 posted on 12/15/2013 7:15:52 PM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: entropy12
BUT....that's what happens when the GOP has slimeball GOP-Es in charge which results in a Demonratic House under Pelosi, a Demonrat Senate under Reid and a White House occupied by Obozo after the elitists just could NOT avoid bailing out every GOP-E controlled business and investment firm in the universe to keep their brainless dipwad polo playing cronies from having to undergo mansion divestment like regular peasants losing modest homes to foreclosure and then nominating militant brain dead "moderate" McCain to lay down for Obozo as Romney did after him.

GOP elitists and their Congressional footstools had no say in the matter of Obozocare. The Demonrats had enough votes to pass it on their own and actually thought that the public would love them for it. Fortunately (to a verrrry modest extent) Republicans sometimes benefit by not having a complete monopoly on Capitol Hill Moronism. Demonrats lost the House as a result which just means that alcoholic golfer Bonehead and the GOP-E have to move the Demonrats' legislative agenda for them which is virtually a certainty since Boehner and his stooges are on autogenuflect before their Demonrat and Wall Street bosses.

Ryan has made me so proud that I refused to vote for him and his social revolutionary money-grubbing weathervane elitist running mate in 2012. Obozo was going to be re-elected anyway and who needs the stigma of voting for either major party candidate in that election. I already had McCain on my conscience and I did not need Romney/Ryan to add to the burden.

136 posted on 12/15/2013 10:34:32 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better
You essentially said that "our" spineless servants of Marxists are better than "their" full blown Marxists. Your terminology may differ and you may even imagine that a Republican House under Boehner, a Republican Senate under McConnell and a White House occupied by some servant of the Wall Street and K Street crowd might govern acceptably. Actually, in the unlikely event that the public would elect them and that Demonrat vote fraud will not overcome the GOP-E as usual, the result would be the final destruction of the Republican brand and with it all hope in the near or even foreseeable future of rescuing the Republic.

What do you think I am implying that you said?

137 posted on 12/15/2013 10:44:02 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: BlackElk

I don’t agree that the term overlord accurately describes the relationship you in question. Since this is the main antecedent of your position, the rest is a non sequitur.

PS - You are misrepresenting my position, so I will clarify: Establishment Republicans are only slightly better than dems. I will never vote for one ever again. I proudly voted for Ted Cruz over Dewhurst; Cruz is the model conservative candidate.


138 posted on 12/24/2013 10:50:14 PM PST by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (I AM ANDREW BREITBART)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better
I will stand by #129. Overlord is an accurate term in this context. There are no non-sequiturs.

As to GOP-E, the term would be GOP-Elitists, as in unscrupulous, spineless money grubbers who are no better than their Demonrat overlords on the issues that matter to me (social issues, guns, military and now, even on budget matters) so long as they can use Obozo and the Demonrat overlords to improve the old corporate bottom line and benefit Muffy's trust fund.

While Wall Street and the Dow soar, what has been the net benefit to ordinary Americans these last five years, thirteen years, twenty-one years, twenty-five years???? No sooner was Ronaldus Maximus safely retired from office than the revenge of the polo players and trust funders began under Bush the Elder.

It is good that you voted for Ted Cruz over Doworst and that you recognize Ted Cruz as the model conservative candidate. All that remains is some fine-tuning in your perception of the enemies within the GOP known as GOP-E.

139 posted on 12/25/2013 11:38:22 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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