Skip to comments.Paul Ryan says Marco Rubio should 'read the deal and get back to me'
Posted on 12/12/2013 10:20:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) on Thursday pushed back on criticism to the budget agreement reached with Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.), saying he wants Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) to "read the deal and get back to me."
In a post on Breitbart.com on Wednesday, Rubio wrote that the deal would continue to make it harder for Americans to achieve the American dream.
Ryan was asked on MSNBCs Morning Joeon Thursday what he would say to Rubio.
Read the deal and get back to me, Ryan said.
Rubio was one of the first lawmakers to express opposition to the budget, even before Ryan sealed the deal with Murray on Tuesday.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Like ObamaCare, right Paulie?
Wait, Ryan opposed Obamacare. What are you talking about?
RE: Wait, Ryan opposed Obamacare. What are you talking about?
I think he’s referring to Nancy Pelosi’s famous quote: “We have to pass it to see what’s in it.”
Ryan has constantly used Obamacare ‘savings’ in previous budget proposals. He’s a TARPer and not to be trusted. Rubio cannot be trusted as well for his amnesty views.
So this is a double edged sword on the necks of Americans.
It raises taxes and pushes any spending cuts a decade out, meaning they will never happen
They will never spend less money.
This deal has no effect on future budgets and nobody is going to remember it in 5-10 years any way
IMO, I think Rubio and Ryan are competing for the 2016 prize.
The two-person ‘deal’ (Ryan & Murray) ends sequestration which is what the establishment Republicans and the Democrats wanted. The establishment GOP is deathly afraid of another government ‘shut down’ that the left can exploit to hurt them in the 2014 congressional elections so they wanted a budget deal that the Democrats will accept. Any conservative opposition upsets the game, hence, the sputtering outrage from the GOP establishment who don’t handle conservative opposition well.
Ryan and Boehner need to listen to the people and get back to us!!!
The deal is bad tactic.
But it may be a good strategy.
Without this deal, there will be another shutdown.
Shutdown hurts GOP more than the Rats in 2014 election.
Best thing going for GOP in 2014 is the Obamacare disaster.
GOP needs to win 6 or more seats in senate.
And keep the house by 10+ seats.
That will be very difficult with another shutdown.
First one must win elections.
Only then one’s agenda has a chance of success.
Losers in eletions have zero, zip, nada power to change anything.
Ask Romney, Mourdock, Akin, O’Donnell, Angle how much power do they now have to change any laws.
I can’t cut this TOTAL LOSER a break - on ANYTHING, He ran a pathetic campaign for vice-President and getting outclassed by a mental pygmy like Biden in a debate destroys ALL his credibility on ANY subject in the future.
One RINO to another.
“Our” idiots only know how to fight each other.
That is so beyond stupid that it can't be true - but I keep reading it.
I think the phrase is
"Hold your nose and vote for it."
It's worked for the Democrats for years.
Yo are right. Palin did better against Biden than Ryan in VP debates.
pissing off the conservative base of the GOP is a good strategy? I really doubt it.
I like that there is NO income tax increase in this deal.
Also the unemployment benefits are not extended to infinity.
Of course I do not like there is no spending cuts.
Right now, GOP is the minority in senate and Rats own the White House Executive power. Gop is in no position to dictate deals. Losers in elections have no power.
I don’t get it; I thought that “the Sequester” was already the law of the land and laid out spending for 2014. Ryan has to come to an agreement with the Democrats to increase spending in 2014 by 45 billion dollars and we need to think that is a GOOD THING? WTF
And so whom does that leave us after various litmus tests are applied?
Nobody. You never trust anyone, you always hold their feet to the fire and expect them to lie to you.
FIRST ONE MUST WIN ELECTIONS! ONLY THEN YOUR AGENDA HAS A CHANCE.
Aask losers Romney, Mourdock, O'Donnell, Akin, Angle etc. how much power they have to change any laws or make deals.
We have to take back the Senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016. Any ideas?
Exactly the point made this morning.
You can’t piss off your base in order to win elections. The GOP is toast.
Why? Isnt this really a false choice - either do the deal or we have a shutdown? Why cant the Republicans just offer up a clean CR for another year and let the Dems do what they will? They could accept it or choose to shut down the government. If they do shut down the government (not a certain thing), what makes anyone think that the public will react like they did in October before they realized that Cruz was right and Obama and the Dems lied to them? I think that the House RINOs that keep repeating this statement (Without this deal, there will be another shutdown) are just a bunch of Dems lite that do not have a spine and cant see that the world has changed considerably since O and the Dems were proven to be liars. Oh, and no amount of media propaganda will change the fact that real people have had real increases in their insurance and losses of coverage because of these lies. This is a time for offense, not prevent defense, in my book. Unfortunately the Rs lack real leadership.
But, you can concentrate on things that matter to you and work for that agenda.
As a whole, I think the GOP gave up the 'populist' type agenda years ago, and that has costs them.
No more bailouts
No more picking winners, no more tax breaks for certain types of business; have lower rates for everyone
Cut spending. Cut Spending.
Cut the budget.
and winning with liberal GOPe’s gets us what?
Okay, I'll play. What agenda is being advanced here?
We conservatives cannot accomplish any of these worthwhile objectives without control of both houses of Congress and the White House. That should be the objective over the next three years.
“We conservatives cannot accomplish any of these worthwhile objectives without control of both houses of Congress and the White House. That should be the objective over the next three years.”
Sure, but do we lay down our principles along the way? Will the next mantra be, “it’s a bad immigration deal, but we have to fccus othe next election?”
“You cant piss off your base in order to win elections. The GOP is toast.”
True, but in many states, unfortunately, conservative candidates cannot win with support only from the base.
Do you ANY senator that read the bill? THAT'S what I am talking about.
No deal can impugn future budgets/congresses
It's important to lay down core principles and run on them, but, as Herman Cain said on his radio show today you have to pick your battles in order to win the war. Conservative candidates should pick three or four core values and run on them. My recommendations are : pro-life, strong military, repeal and replace the ACA, and border security. What are yours?
Sure, it’s like me charging 10 grand on my credit card today and making a “plan” to pay it off plus interest in less than 10 years. At that point anything I earn will be put into my savings. In what universe is this is a responsible way to “save?”
Excuse me while I attempt to catch my breath.
The GOP had the whole of D.C. for 4 years during Bush, and what did ‘we’ get?: NSA, TSA, No Child Left Behind, Medicare Part XYZ, Tarp, etc.
In fact, I cannot lay my finger upon any reversal of Law, Dept. abolished, line item 0’d out...
What ‘worthwhile objectives’ were YOU talking about?? ‘Cuz all *I’ve* heard recently is: ‘fixing’ OCare, amnesty and more $ MORE $ MORE $$
Is Ryan an idiot or is he purposely striving to singlehandedly destroy conservative initiatives?
All of the above plus leaving my kids and the future generations with a growing economy and not servitude through a mountain of debt.
Just read elsewhere that, “what’s in it” was already known all over town, (Matt Kibbe reveals this), leaked by Boehner’s office, and this bleed out naturally gave the suspicious the ability and time to follow along and be instantly prepared for the obvious and nefarious.
A really duh moment for Boehner and Paul Ryan, left to complain that the opposition can’t possibly know “what’s in it” because they hadn’t time to read it. The opposition DID know.
Matt Kibbe For President! I like him. What a fighter.
That logic is mind-numbingly stupid. The GOP has more leverage now than in years. The congressional poll shows people want to elect a GOP Congress by several points. If they’re going to cave into the other side now, when will they ever not cave in? Even when they have full power, they’ll still say, we don’t want to lose it to the Dems next year, so we’ll keep passing liberal bills so they can’t criticize us in the press. This is what Bush did, leftist lite, and why we’re in the mess we’re in now.
As long as the Dems hold one branch of government, they will always be able to shut it down. If the GOP is afraid of that, then they will constantly pass whatever the Dems want. The Dems may as well have full power if that’s the case. If the public is too stupid to think passing bad, liberal bills is better than shutting down the government, they get what they deserve. After Cruz was proven right, the public might be more open to listening to us next time.
Bottom line, our reps have to have the courage to lose their seats by doing the right thing and voting the right way. And if they want to run on fear, let them be afraid of getting their butts booted out in a primary. We don’t need to elect anyone who will vote for Democrat bills out of fear or for any reason. And I fail to see how voting for a Democrat bill “helps” the GOP win any elections. If there’s no difference between the GOP candidate and the Dem, they’ll look like another Romney and lose.
Two guys (sorry ladies ... this is a possibly bloody scenerio I don't want you in) that will go into the Senate and kick ass
Screw the politicians anymore ... they're all limp and useless to America and her future.
Ever see these guys dress?
1200 dollar suits, 400 dollar shoes, 60 dollar socks ...
I think it's time for some sweaty testosterone
GOD how I wish I was younger and in better health.
Worse, the airline fees increase falls on the heads of Republicans, according to Ryan on GRETA, as he said those fees pay back the sequester cash he gave away. (My paraphrase.)