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Paul Ryan says Marco Rubio should 'read the deal and get back to me'
The Hill ^ | 12/12/2013 | Rebecca Shabad

Posted on 12/12/2013 10:20:20 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
RINO catfight!!!
21 posted on 12/12/2013 10:36:56 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: grobdriver

I like that there is NO income tax increase in this deal.
Also the unemployment benefits are not extended to infinity.
Of course I do not like there is no spending cuts.

Right now, GOP is the minority in senate and Rats own the White House Executive power. Gop is in no position to dictate deals. Losers in elections have no power.


22 posted on 12/12/2013 10:39:37 AM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t get it; I thought that “the Sequester” was already the law of the land and laid out spending for 2014. Ryan has to come to an agreement with the Democrats to increase spending in 2014 by 45 billion dollars and we need to think that is a GOOD THING? WTF


23 posted on 12/12/2013 10:40:08 AM PST by House Atreides
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To: Theoria
“Ryan has constantly used Obamacare ‘savings’ in previous budget proposals. He’s a TARPer and not to be trusted. Rubio cannot be trusted as well for his amnesty views.”

And so whom does that leave us after various litmus tests are applied?

24 posted on 12/12/2013 10:41:11 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: riverdawg

Nobody. You never trust anyone, you always hold their feet to the fire and expect them to lie to you.


25 posted on 12/12/2013 10:42:59 AM PST by Theoria (Obama lied. My health care died.)
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To: GeronL
Some conservatives need to bone on long term strategy.

FIRST ONE MUST WIN ELECTIONS! ONLY THEN YOUR AGENDA HAS A CHANCE.

Aask losers Romney, Mourdock, O'Donnell, Akin, Angle etc. how much power they have to change any laws or make deals.

26 posted on 12/12/2013 10:43:02 AM PST by entropy12 (Zero thanks to all who stayed home and helped elect Acorn lawyer Zero.)
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To: Theoria

We have to take back the Senate in 2014 and the White House in 2016. Any ideas?


27 posted on 12/12/2013 10:44:45 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: GeronL

Exactly the point made this morning.


28 posted on 12/12/2013 10:47:16 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: entropy12

You can’t piss off your base in order to win elections. The GOP is toast.


29 posted on 12/12/2013 10:47:41 AM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: SeekAndFind

What arrogance.


30 posted on 12/12/2013 10:49:44 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: entropy12

Why? Isn’t this really a false choice - either do the deal or we have a shutdown? Why can’t the Republicans just offer up a clean CR for another year and let the Dems do what they will? They could accept it or choose to shut down the government. If they do shut down the government (not a certain thing), what makes anyone think that the public will react like they did in October – before they realized that Cruz was right and Obama and the Dems lied to them? I think that the House RINOs that keep repeating this statement (Without this deal, there will be another shutdown) are just a bunch of Dems lite that do not have a spine and can’t see that the world has changed considerably since O and the Dems were proven to be liars. Oh, and no amount of media propaganda will change the fact that real people have had real increases in their insurance and losses of coverage because of these lies. This is a time for offense, not prevent defense, in my book. Unfortunately the Rs lack real leadership.


31 posted on 12/12/2013 10:50:56 AM PST by Nicojones
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To: riverdawg
We? Take back? 'We' never had it. I'm not a member of the GOP nor will I campaign for them. Because, in the end, I know they will screw me over.

But, you can concentrate on things that matter to you and work for that agenda.

As a whole, I think the GOP gave up the 'populist' type agenda years ago, and that has costs them.

Trade reciprocity
No more bailouts
Immigration enforcement
No more picking winners, no more tax breaks for certain types of business; have lower rates for everyone
Cut spending. Cut Spending.
Cut the budget.

32 posted on 12/12/2013 10:51:50 AM PST by Theoria (Obama lied. My health care died.)
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To: House Atreides
This for me, is the BEST PLAN for the budget.

Unfortunately, the brainchild behind this plan lost the elections last year ( which just shows you how stupid voters have become when it comes to their country's future );

Connie Mack's plan cuts one penny out of every federal dollar would balance the budget in less than a decade
33 posted on 12/12/2013 10:51:52 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: entropy12

and winning with liberal GOPe’s gets us what?

:p


34 posted on 12/12/2013 10:52:27 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: entropy12
First one must win elections. Only then one’s agenda has a chance of success.

Okay, I'll play. What agenda is being advanced here?

35 posted on 12/12/2013 10:54:39 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg (Some people meet their heroes. I raised mine. Go Army.)
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To: Theoria

We conservatives cannot accomplish any of these worthwhile objectives without control of both houses of Congress and the White House. That should be the objective over the next three years.


36 posted on 12/12/2013 10:55:57 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: riverdawg
I understand that. But, if I can't trust them when they aren't in power, I'm sure enough not gonna trust them to put them in power.
37 posted on 12/12/2013 10:57:46 AM PST by Theoria (Obama lied. My health care died.)
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To: riverdawg

“We conservatives cannot accomplish any of these worthwhile objectives without control of both houses of Congress and the White House. That should be the objective over the next three years.”

Sure, but do we lay down our principles along the way? Will the next mantra be, “it’s a bad immigration deal, but we have to fccus othe next election?”


38 posted on 12/12/2013 10:59:05 AM PST by Nicojones
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To: VRWC For Truth

“You can’t piss off your base in order to win elections. The GOP is toast.”

True, but in many states, unfortunately, conservative candidates cannot win with support only from the base.


39 posted on 12/12/2013 10:59:19 AM PST by riverdawg
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To: babble-on
Wait, Ryan opposed Obamacare. What are you talking about?

Do you ANY senator that read the bill? THAT'S what I am talking about.

40 posted on 12/12/2013 11:04:38 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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