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Even Paul Ryan Can't Please Conservatives Anymore
National Journal ^ | 16 Jan 14 | Marina Koren

Posted on 01/16/2014 3:15:25 PM PST by SkyPilot

This week's spending-bill fight revealed deepening fractures within the GOP, spelling trouble for 2016.

Imagine the ground is splitting open beneath your feet. The rocking plates of earth slowly spread apart, and you're left straddling both sides to keep from falling in.

That is how some of the most publicly visible GOP lawmakers are feeling right now. They must choose whose side they're on: establishment Republicans or the far-right flank.

Ultraconservative groups are furious over the omnibus appropriations package that coasted through the Republican-led House on Wednesday. The bill, which would fund the government for the rest of the year, is expected to pass the Senate later this week, but conservatives are not done pushing back. They have put the Grand Old Party's most vocal members on the defensive on budget issues, and they're not mincing their words.

"I have often been proud to be a GOP-er, sometimes embarrassed, but never until today ashamed," said influential conservative talk-show host Hugh Hewitt during a heated interview with House Budget Committe Chairman and usual conservative darling Paul Ryan this week. For Hewitt, the most offending part of the spending bill is a 1 percentage point cut to annual cost-of-living increases, which translates into a pension cut that would affect active-duty members.

"If you think that I wanted to do this or enjoy doing this, that's not true," Ryan told Hewitt of the budget cuts. "Had Mitt [Romney] and I won that election, this would not be required. This would not be necessary." He added later, "Now do I want to do this? Did I think this was a great thing to do and what we needed to do? No, course not," he went on. Ryan did, of course, vote for the bill.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 113th; budget; conservatives; federalspending; military; nationaldebt; paulryan; rino; uniparty
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To: NoRedTape

Well, he pretty much ended it when he hitched his wagon to Mitt Romneycare.


61 posted on 01/16/2014 5:04:28 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: RginTN
I unfortunately voted for those lying bs’er Corker and Alexander in the general election...yeah the lesser of two evils is still evil.

I haven't voted for Alexander since governor. I didn't vote for Corker and the last time I voted for Clayton over Corker because Clayton -D had a far more Conservative platform than Porker. Clayton made the state DEM Party come unglued LOL.

62 posted on 01/16/2014 5:05:22 PM PST by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: SkyPilot

I was unpleased four years ago.


63 posted on 01/16/2014 5:06:50 PM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

bump

The GOP is at war against the TEA Party, wants amnesty and is starting to like some of Obamacare....

why would I vote for this party?

I won’t at this point


64 posted on 01/16/2014 5:07:08 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

This is part of a post I made on another thread, but it applies here as well I think...
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...At this point in time, it makes a whole lot of difference. These are people who are determined to see us vote for the GOP candidate no matter how liberal yet again. Over the next several months, they will continue building dissent here and elsewhere. They will continue to attempt setting us against each other over small details in our personal political beliefs specifically to repeat the events of the 2012 primary and election season.

The entirety of this issue comes down to unity. the “UNI” party has figured this out. WE, the far right always win in the idea dept. We even have much of the population in agreeance with us on a number of subjects. Yet you hear the same thing when talking to people “I like X but they can’t win”. And that is because we lack the cohesive unity to make them believe we can.

.... we have to speak with one voice. We either are willing to repeat the ‘chicken out at the last min and vote for the GOP Lib” routine or we have to decide, each of us, YESTERDAY, that we aren’t.

Several of us have put our collective asses out there trying to get people on one page. And you’ve all seen that we have gotten an unholy amount of hell for it. Why is that? It’s to pressure people into staying on the GOP plantation. The message is clear. Stray and be mocked for it.

And no, before someone thinks it, I don’t have a martyr/Massiah complex. The facts back it up. Read the post histories of those involved.

So it’s time to choose. The GOP is what it is. If people want that, they should do that. Or not.


65 posted on 01/16/2014 5:13:23 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: SkyPilot

“If you think that I wanted to do this or enjoy doing this, that’s not true,” Ryan told Hewitt of the budget cuts. “Had Mitt [Romney] and I won that election, this would not be required. This would not be necessary.” He added later, “Now do I want to do this? Did I think this was a great thing to do and what we needed to do? No, course not,” he went on.”

The money quote: “Ryan did, of course, vote for the bill.”

“I didn’t want to, but I did, because, because, uh, someone, I forgot whom, was pointing a gun at my head. But I didn’t want to.”

One thing you can give Romney credit for—he knows how to vet someone. And Ryan was a perfect fit for the RomneyCare candidate.


66 posted on 01/16/2014 5:28:19 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: SkyPilot

“Even” Paul Ryan??? Hell, even Hillary Clinton can’t please conservatives!


67 posted on 01/16/2014 5:31:13 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: SkyPilot
Because he's a Progressive. It's not rocket surgery.
68 posted on 01/16/2014 5:32:19 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: SharpRightTurn

Just struck me.

““If you think that I wanted to do this or enjoy doing this, that’s not true,”

Sorta like “Don’t you dare question my patriotism”.


69 posted on 01/16/2014 5:39:24 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Thanks GG2! My thoughts exactly! As a vet I am not appalled.I can’t remember how many time times I have been reclassified by the VA. But these guys are bringing it to a new level. GBU!


70 posted on 01/16/2014 5:41:48 PM PST by Sweating_Bullets (You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the tracks.)
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To: SkyPilot
"If you think that I wanted to do this or enjoy doing this, that's not true," Ryan told Hewitt of the budget cuts. "Had Mitt [Romney] and I won that election, this would not be required. This would not be necessary." He added later, "Now do I want to do this? Did I think this was a great thing to do and what we needed to do? No, course not," he went on. Ryan did, of course, vote for the bill.

"Don't want to do it."

"Don't enjoy doing it."

"Don't need to do it."

"Did it any way."


71 posted on 01/16/2014 5:57:29 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

Ynder Reagan there was 3D chess. Now Ryan introduces 4D excusemaking to the GOP playbook.


72 posted on 01/16/2014 6:00:08 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: RKBA Democrat

Leftist agitprop.


Correct but it’s also GOP agitprop. The beltway GOP are attacking conservatives to appear “moderate”. It’s the one thing those losers do well.


73 posted on 01/16/2014 6:48:01 PM PST by lodi90
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To: cripplecreek

BINGO


74 posted on 01/16/2014 7:07:36 PM PST by goat granny
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To: blueyon; KitJ; T Minus Four; xzins; CMS; The Sailor; ab01; txradioguy; Jet Jaguar; Defender2; ...

Acive Duty/Retiree ping.


75 posted on 01/16/2014 7:08:41 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: SkyPilot

Ryan Betrays Veterans

GOP Betrays Veterans

That’s the bottom line.


76 posted on 01/16/2014 7:24:22 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: SkyPilot

wonder why they never call the hardcore libs to the left of obama who are pissed he’s not being liberal enough for them, “ultra” liberal, or extreme liberals?

it’s all out framing it. they are framing wussy moderates as conservatives and real conservatives as ‘ultra’.


77 posted on 01/16/2014 11:21:16 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: SkyPilot

if ultra means not bending over for amnesty and not increasing the debt limits, then i guess i’m ultra-conservative. i know even barrycades said increasing the debt limit was irresponsible when he was a senator.


78 posted on 01/16/2014 11:23:21 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: cva66snipe

he went rino full throttle when he went with romney.


79 posted on 01/16/2014 11:24:24 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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