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You cannot Just say No to the Obamacare race questionnaire
legalinsurrection.com ^ | Feb 5, 2014 | William A. Jacobson

Posted on 02/06/2014 1:39:16 AM PST by expat1000

State your race and ethnicity, or no doctor for you.

The image below was sent to me by a reader who went for a visit to a physician, and was told that she could not be seen unless she filled out this race and ethnicity questionnaire, and put her name on the form.

She initially refused, but they insisted that it was required or she could not see the doctor. The form does indicate that it is mandatory under Section 4302 of Obamacare.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; banglist; obamacare; obamacareethnicity; obamacareform; obamacarerace; obamacareraceform; racequestionnaire
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1 posted on 02/06/2014 1:39:16 AM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000

Comment at the site by an MD :

Speaking as a physician, I feel that (barring very particular circumstances) an MD asking you about whether you have firearms has way too much time on his or her hands. Or some political axe to grind, in which case find yourself another doctor. In the 15 minutes (or less) we typically have to see a patient, just finding out about the reason for the visit, and actually important preventative stuff such as smoking, blood pressure, diabetes and physical activity take up all the allotted time.

If physicians are forced to document a discussion about firearms as a quality (i.e. physician performance) metric find one who will put in the note “We discussed health maintenance and safety issues including wearing a seat belt in automobiles, proper storage and handling of firearms, wearing a helmet when bicycling or motorcycling, and having a fire extinguisher and smoke and CO2 alarms in the home. The patient indicated s/he understood the conversation, and questions, if any, were answered to his or her satisfaction.” That’s a piece of boilerplate that then appears in EVERY patient’s note and does not indicate whether a particular patient has firearms, or indeed if s/he rides a motorcycle or bicycle.

So as not to commit fraud I would indeed say to the patient while face to face “I am obligated to say: Please wear a seatbelt in cars, a helmet while cycling, and if you have firearms handle and store them safely.” Followed by “I am happy to discuss any of those further in detail if you like, but only if you want to.” Usually people are perfectly happy to get out of the office with that.


2 posted on 02/06/2014 1:41:10 AM PST by expat1000
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To: expat1000

I live up in the San Juan islands in Washington. The last census I put down Pacific Islander for race. I haven’t heard anything.


3 posted on 02/06/2014 1:50:41 AM PST by beelzepug (if any alphabets are watchin', I'll be coming home right after the meetin')
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To: expat1000

My arms are perfectly fine.. little hairy, few scars but not on fire... hence I would have to select NO on any questionnaire.


4 posted on 02/06/2014 1:54:18 AM PST by maddog55
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To: expat1000

Let’s review real-world statistics. A guy goes in and gets asked the standard five questions.

Smoking? Oh, one cigarette a day (he really smokes a pack a day),

Illicit drugs? Oh, my goodness, never (he smoke weed four times a week, and does sixteen pain-killers a week for that high school football injury).

Alcohol? Never ever (he consumes four shots every evening and a six-pack a day).

The doctor writes this all down and it’s factual as far as he’s concerned. Most doctors will readily agree that a quarter of all patients are plain out-and-out lying (not just a fib, but big-time stuff).

So now the new questions?

Your ethnic situation? Chinese-Albanian. (you grin as you remark this)

Your gun situation? Oh my, weapons scare me (getting robbed or assaulted scares me more though).

If this were the pearly gates, and that Moses-character and several angels were standing there....yeah, I might go and be humble and honest. But I don’t need some political figure or doctor trying to be my “friend”. If I’ve come to you with a need of pain relief or some life-saving....I’d expect some relative calm, basic wit and knowledge, and hopefully you do your very best.

Somewhere down the line....if you did want my advice on digging septic tanks, turf management, or best hotel to stay at in New Orleans....I’d be happy to offer that advice and wisdom.


5 posted on 02/06/2014 1:54:54 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: expat1000

Everyone should put Black or Hispanic


6 posted on 02/06/2014 1:57:03 AM PST by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: beelzepug

I’ve been considering a plethora of “identities” I might use when asked about sex/race/gender etc. I have currently decided to identify as a Samoan blind, quadriplegic, hermaphrodite lesbian. I may change my mind at any time and on any form, as now the gubmin’ tells us we can identify as anything we want to be at a particular moment. Has anyone else come up with good ones?


7 posted on 02/06/2014 1:59:46 AM PST by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: expat1000

On race, just write in “human”.


8 posted on 02/06/2014 2:02:41 AM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Evil must be punished.)
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To: expat1000

Forty flavors of Asian, forty flavors of Hispanic, and one flavor of white. And hey, why aren’t Hispanic considered European white since their origin is Spain? That questionnaire makes as much sense as questions on a Common Core test


9 posted on 02/06/2014 2:03:48 AM PST by informavoracious (Open your eyes, people!)
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To: beelzepug

I live up in the San Juan islands in Washington. The last census I put down Pacific Islander for race
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LOL

I was born in New Zealand...

I’m white ...

For years I’ve been marking Pacific islander..

:)


10 posted on 02/06/2014 2:04:00 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: pepsionice

Guns excepted, there are valid medical reasons for asking all of those questions. Answering them dishonestly can hurt you. Of course, with this administration so can answering them honestly.


11 posted on 02/06/2014 2:10:41 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Fai Mao

Put what was on Obama’s fake birth certificate: African


12 posted on 02/06/2014 2:12:25 AM PST by ImNotLying (The Right To Bear Arms: Making good people helpless won't make bad people harmless!)
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To: Fai Mao

I’m Native American because I have the right kind of cheek bones.


13 posted on 02/06/2014 2:17:22 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: tbpiper

..same race as Elizabeth Warren. Let them figure it out


14 posted on 02/06/2014 2:29:14 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: lefty-lie-spy

Deaf and stupid.


15 posted on 02/06/2014 2:43:40 AM PST by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: lefty-lie-spy
"I’ve been considering a plethora of “identities” I might use when asked about sex/race/gender etc. I have currently decided to identify as a Samoan blind, quadriplegic, hermaphrodite lesbian. I may change my mind at any time and on any form, as now the gubmin’ tells us we can identify as anything we want to be at a particular moment. Has anyone else come up with good ones?"

I like it. Change your answer every time you go in.

16 posted on 02/06/2014 2:46:03 AM PST by Truth29
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To: FreedomStar3028

On race, just write in “human”.
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And for ethnicity, just say Native American... if born here.

The PC idiots don’t understand the difference between an American Indian (Amerind) or a Native American (anyone born in the US).

Likewise, they don’t differentiate between a black American and a person from Africa who happens to be black that has immigrated to America and became a citizen of the US.


17 posted on 02/06/2014 2:47:54 AM PST by octex
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To: Tennessee Nana

LOL! I love it!!!


18 posted on 02/06/2014 2:52:08 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare. The "global warming" of healthcare plans.)
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To: expat1000

Then everybody should say “Klingonian.”


19 posted on 02/06/2014 3:07:29 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: expat1000

This is strange because I saw an application for welfare the other day where each question had three responses you could check. Yes, No and I Do Not Want To Answer. The one that caught my eye was, “Are You A U.S. Citizen?” Yes, No, I Do Not Want To Answer.


20 posted on 02/06/2014 3:54:58 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare. The "global warming" of healthcare plans.)
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