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The Birth of the American City-state: Socialist big cities vs. the conservative countrysides.
American Thinker ^ | 02/16/2014 | Greg Penglis

Posted on 02/16/2014 3:46:08 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Mark Levin has proposed a series of "Liberty Amendments" to the Constitution through an Article 5 state convention. I have my own set of amendments which I hope to share here and add to the proposed Liberty Amendments. The first involves the resurrection of the city-state. This plan would take our largest cities, governed primarily by socialist Democrats, and separate them out as independent, self-governing, self-funding political units, with no connection to the states, but within the exclusive oversight of the federal government, just as the states are.

There is a huge separation in this country right now between the socialist big cities and the conservative countrysides. Many times, especially in California where I live, the socialist cities have enough people, and votes, to edge out the conservative countryside in every major state and federal election, despite the fact that the countryside constitutes a vastly larger area, and includes millions of people. Conservatives within that vast area are completely disenfranchised from true representation, even up to the president.

If you took San Francisco, Sacramento, and Los Angeles out of the state of California, and left the rest of the state alone to govern itself, the world of electoral politics, and every other issue, would completely change. Therefore I propose that cities over a certain size and metropolitan character be designated as city-states, that their legislators and officers be recalled from the state governments, that the city-states have no connection or ties with the surrounding states, that no person residing in a city-state may hold any government position in a state, and vice-versa, that crossing a city-state line is the equivalent of crossing a state line, and that the city-states become completely independent political, legal, and financial entities.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: cities; citystate; conservatism; countryside

1 posted on 02/16/2014 3:46:08 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

RE: If you took San Francisco, Sacramento, and Los Angeles out of the state of California, and left the rest of the state alone to govern itself, the world of electoral politics, and every other issue, would completely change.

I’m surprised the author did not San Diego include in the mix...


2 posted on 02/16/2014 3:47:09 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Would each city state get two senators?


3 posted on 02/16/2014 3:52:12 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
If they are no longer a part of California, can we cut off their water supply?

-PJ

4 posted on 02/16/2014 3:54:22 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The real benefit to the city-state system is that all the folks who are not in a city-state would regain their ideological representation.

Thank the 1964 Reynolds v. Sims Scotus court decision for turning every state into a democratic republic.

5 posted on 02/16/2014 4:00:34 PM PST by Jacquerie ( Article V.)
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To: SeekAndFind

6 posted on 02/16/2014 4:17:47 PM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Jacquerie; Carry_Okie
Actually the more effective slogan than "one man, one vote," was the infamous "cows don't vote!" Don't you remember all those "Impeach Earl Warren" bumperstickers? 1964 was the year I came to CA and I saw those stickers all across the western US on my way out here!!!

Carry_Okie is the FReeper that seems to me has done the most extensive research on this issue I call "taxation and regulation with no rational rural representation!!!" Doesn't that have a little bit of a Tea Party "ring" to it???

7 posted on 02/16/2014 4:28:09 PM PST by SierraWasp (Democrats these days are the "Glitches" in America's way of life and culture!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind
"I’m surprised the author did not San Diego include in the mix…"

With all it's military installations and supporting population, it is way more conservative than Lost Angeles or San Franpsycho!!!

8 posted on 02/16/2014 4:31:15 PM PST by SierraWasp (Democrats these days are the "Glitches" in America's way of life and culture!!!)
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To: SierraWasp

It’s a darn shame that impeachment and removal from office have fallen away. A few judicial scalps a year would do wonders.


9 posted on 02/16/2014 4:41:28 PM PST by Jacquerie ( Article V.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is onto the right idea.


10 posted on 02/16/2014 4:55:44 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: SeekAndFind
This plan would take our largest cities, governed primarily by socialist Democrats, and separate them out as independent, self-governing, self-funding political units, with no connection to the states

I hope the author isn't serious. It's silly and wildly unrealistic. Goofy plans like that one only distract from Mark Levin's very sensible suggestions.

11 posted on 02/16/2014 4:57:25 PM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This will never happen. Not without a war and big fences.


12 posted on 02/16/2014 5:05:26 PM PST by enduserindy (A painted trash can is still a trash can.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A Constitutional Convention would open Pandora’s Box. The takers would take over and things would only get worse.


13 posted on 02/16/2014 6:13:13 PM PST by Avid Coug
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To: All
I am no longer interested in coexistence as the left has made it absolutely crystal clear that they are not interested in coexistence.

This ‘plan’ is DOA.

14 posted on 02/16/2014 6:13:40 PM PST by QuisCustodiet1776 (Live free or die.)
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To: Avid Coug

A Constitutional Convention would open Pandora’s Box. The takers would take over and things would only get worse.


Welcome to earth.. What planet are you from?...


15 posted on 02/16/2014 6:53:20 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: SierraWasp
“I’m surprised the author did not San Diego include in the mix…”

With all it's military installations and supporting population, it is way more conservative than Lost Angeles or San Franpsycho!!!


Not as much as it used to be.

2012 results - 52.7% Obummer and 45.1% Romney - and those numbers are for the entire county of San Diego. The City will be much more liberal.

'The Times They are a-Changin' from when I lived in the county 4 decades ago...:^)

16 posted on 02/16/2014 7:01:43 PM PST by az_gila
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To: SeekAndFind; SierraWasp
Nifty concept; terrible idea. Will he include the corridors between them too? He'll never draw the boundaries in a workable fashion.

No, a better idea is to return the States to the principles of Federalism, with a State Senator representing the county government as selected by boards of supervisors, and the State legislatures selecting US Senators. That way a good idea has a much better chance of making Federal law, an able politician will more quickly be elevated to national rank, and US Senators will not need to raise so much cash for their re-elections.

17 posted on 02/16/2014 8:48:32 PM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take everything you own to pay for it.)
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To: Leaning Right
Goofy plans like that one only distract from Mark Levin's very sensible suggestions.

I found Levin's proposals completely inadequate. They addressed some of the more peripheral issues with the Constitution without rectifying some of its deeper original flaws. He did not address the manner of treaty ratification, nor the language of the Supremacy clause which fails to assure that treaties which usurp Constitutional limitation are rendered void. He does nothing to assure that usurpation of power carries criminal penalties for officers of the government. Yet the latter is the principal reason why the Feds have gone so far beyond Article II enumerated powers while the treaty power has been the principal "authority" for enactment of those powers.

18 posted on 02/16/2014 9:20:30 PM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take everything you own to pay for it.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“Senators would be split with one senator being elected by the state, and one by the city-states within the state boundaries.”


19 posted on 02/17/2014 11:16:40 AM PST by neverdem (Register pressure cookers! /s)
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To: SeekAndFind

How about simply using the Commerce Clause in the way it was intended and crush the permitting, licensing and zoning nonsense that interferes with free trade between the states?

After we take back Congress you begin to reduce the benefits for not working and increase the benefits of working. Blame unemployment where it belongs - bad regulatory and tax policy enforced by Democrats.


20 posted on 02/17/2014 1:46:16 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: SeekAndFind

Believe it or not, once upon the time America’s large cities were bastions of civilization, safety, and even religion. That has all changed and the ultimate cause was the development of the Democrat political machine (a la Boss Tweed). The Democrat party at that time might not have stood for the abominations it does today but the machine founded at that time became the mechanism through which our cities were subverted and turned into hell-holes.


21 posted on 02/19/2014 10:55:51 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If you have an Article 5, remember that the grasshoppers outnumber the ants.

I can’t believe people think a Constitutional convention is a good idea with our current make up. The chance for hot civil war or mass camps is to great.


22 posted on 02/19/2014 11:29:16 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

But in the ages of Clintoid and Obama, the suburbs are moving left too. Already were in NYC and Philadelphia for years


23 posted on 02/19/2014 8:31:35 PM PST by Theodore R. (Alas: TX Republicans to endorse Cornball and George P! Stay tuned March 4)
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