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Search for lost Malaysian jet shifts significantly after new lead
Reuters ^ | March 28, 2014 3:53am EDT | JANE WARDELL AND MICHAEL MARTINA

Posted on 03/28/2014 1:39:20 AM PDT by blueplum

(Additional reporting by Suilee Wee in Beijing, Niluksi Koswanage in Kuala Lumpur, Stanley White in Tokyo, Amy Sawitta Lefevre in Bangkok and Lincoln Feast in Sydney; Editing by Dean Yates and Alex Richardson)

Sydney/Perth (Reuters) - An international air and sea taskforce hunting for the wreckage of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 was re-directed on Friday to an area 1,100 km (685 miles) north of where they have been searching for more than a week, after Australian authorities received new radar information from Malaysia.

The new search area is larger, but closer to the Australian west coast city of Perth, allowing aircraft to spend longer on site by shortening travel times. It is also vastly more favorable in terms of the weather ... :snip:

Ten aircraft searching on Friday were immediately re-directed to the new area of 319,000 sq km (123,000 sq miles), roughly the size of Poland, around 1,850 km (1,150 miles) west of Perth. The Australian Geospatial-Intelligence Organisation was also redirecting satellites there, AMSA said.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mh370; missingplane; piracy
no map of the new search area, just a description
1 posted on 03/28/2014 1:39:21 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: Star Traveler

ping for your list


2 posted on 03/28/2014 1:40:02 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

Shell game ?


3 posted on 03/28/2014 1:41:30 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: blueplum

The “powers that be” don’t have any idea where this plane is but want this news story to end quickly.......

OR....

they DO know exactly where it is (not in the ocean) and are trying to do a Jedi mind trick on the masses.


4 posted on 03/28/2014 1:50:43 AM PDT by Aurorales (I will not be ridiculed into silence!)
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To: blueplum

If you recall the map with the dual possible flight tracks, it’s right at the end of the eastern one. Almost due west of Perth.


5 posted on 03/28/2014 1:54:56 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg (Hoaxey Dopey Changey)
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To: blueplum

who benefits from this useless
shell game of... look over there...
oops... over there ...etc


6 posted on 03/28/2014 1:56:16 AM PDT by RockyTx
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To: ArmstedFragg

the Guardian has a map up now. Looks like there’s legend symbols tied to 3 different airspeeds:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/28/flight-mh370-search-zone-moved-based-on-planes-fuel-consumption


7 posted on 03/28/2014 2:05:23 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: RockyTx

who benefits from this useless
shell game of... look over there...
oops... over there ...etc

There is an election coming up in the fall. We’ll be watching jets flying over the oceans just like we saw the OJ car. Keep the low.informed occupied.


8 posted on 03/28/2014 2:30:58 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: gusopol3

Pock-E-Stan, me thinks.


9 posted on 03/28/2014 2:39:26 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: RockyTx
who benefits from this useless
shell game of... look over there...
oops... over there ...etc

Meanwhile, in Ukraine...


10 posted on 03/28/2014 2:47:15 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: stars & stripes forever

I don’t know how any terror organization benefits from stealing an airplane and then waiting weeks, months, years to use it for nefarious purposes while the international world searches for it in earnest. That’s not in their best interest. You hijack an airplane and use it immediately for your purposes before anyone has time to react. The more time you add the better the world is at preparing to defend itself against your intentions.

So, in short, no one benefits from some weird drawn out plane heist that would require significant infrastructure and involve hundreds of on board witnesses. It’s the thing of fantasy, Hollywood, and, wild imaginations...........but not reality.

It’s a crying shame but this airplane went into the water two-plus weeks ago and it’s doubtful that anyone survived the initial impact. Why? Who? How? Can’t say. Can’t rationalize it like most everyone else. I can say that the only verifiable data says that it went deep into the south Indian Ocean and disappeared. It’s no conspiracy. A weird act that doesn’t make sense? Yes. A grand international cabal? No evidence at all of that in any way whatsoever.

And anyone looking for them to locate the plane this week is going to be disappointed. It may be a good while before they can do that.


11 posted on 03/28/2014 2:48:16 AM PDT by FAA
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To: blueplum

I think it was highjacked by B.D. Cooper.


12 posted on 03/28/2014 3:11:07 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: FAA

When their timing is right, fly the plane with the passengers to their target and dare anyone to shoot it down. That is the only scenario that makes any sense to counter your argument on the first point.

The fact that any of what we do know making any sense just fuels all the other stuff. The fact that the Malaysian authorities continually making all sorts of flip-flops on what they know just adds fuel to the fire.

If it is in fact the new search area, wonderful for all of us and terrible news for the families and victims. It will also be the first step for the bankruptcy of CNN, unless they can hire terrorists to keep hijacking airliners on a monthly basis.


13 posted on 03/28/2014 3:17:01 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: mazda77

“When their timing is right, fly the plane with the passengers to their target and dare anyone to shoot it down. That is the only scenario that makes any sense to counter your argument on the first point.”

And the authorities in charge shoot it down. Period. End of sentence. No one can fault a nation defending it’s airspace against a terrorist act.

“The fact that the Malaysian authorities continually making all sorts of flip-flops on what they know just adds fuel to the fire.”

Malaysia is not exactly experienced in investigations of this kind. Name me the last international headline grabbing “whodunnit” that they were involved in. Ever. It’s not something they’re particularly good at or equipped for. The U.S., China, India, Australia have not been able to swoop in with definable new info to make things suddenly clear either. The initial Malaysian efforts were disjointed, uncoordinated, and, scattered. Various agencies investigated, commented, and, reported independently of one another and often contradicted themselves in the process. This is not evidence of conspiracy but rather a poorly organized reaction to an event extraordinary to them.


14 posted on 03/28/2014 3:33:06 AM PDT by FAA
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To: gusopol3

“Shell game ?”
Certainly seems so….why is anyone still listening to information from the Malaysians?


15 posted on 03/28/2014 3:40:21 AM PDT by milford421 ("All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." (Edmund Burke))
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To: gusopol3

Shell game ?

Probably. Dr. Evil Soros probably kidnapped some of Freescale Semiconductor to improve their Kinetis ARM chip which is basically a computer small enough to be put into a capsule that can be swallowed. They are probably busy working in his lab right now. I would guess he wanted to add GPS capabilites to it then have all the Obamacare enrollees take it when they receive their mandated Preventative Care checkup. The enrolles will probably wonder why each tablet has a coded SIM number assigned to it when they take it. Got to do it to get ready for the NWO and all you know....

Just kidding but this is the progressive wet dream and they would do it if they knew they could get away with it...


16 posted on 03/28/2014 3:41:19 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: blueplum

MH370: Families Called to Urgent Meeting; Malaysia Press Conference 10 a.m. EDT 3/24/14
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3136667/posts

MALAYSIAN AUTHORITIES: The Plane Crashed With No Survivors
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3136697/posts

Malaysia Grand Prix pushes grieving families of jet passengers from hotel
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3136731/posts

Officials Say Missing Malaysia Airlines Plane “Ended in the Southern Indian Ocean”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3136711/posts

WORLD NEWS Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 Ended in Indian Ocean, Prime Minister Says
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3136787/posts

How British satellite company Inmarsat tracked down MH370
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3136789/posts

Aussie Flight Disaster Film ‘Deep Water’ Shelved Over Eerie Resemblance to Missing Malaysia Flight
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3136793/posts

Malaysia Airlines crash: Suicide mission theory of MH370 investigators
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3136904/posts

Flight 370: Storm of emotions over lives “lost” as storm at sea delays search
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3137006/posts

How a UK firm ... used a nineteenth century mathematical model to track missing flight MH370
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3137015/posts

Why locating MH370 in the Southern Ocean is so difficult
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3137062/posts

Missing Malaysia Airlines Plane: What We Know Now
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3137157/posts

Tracking down MH370 black boxes a Herculean challenge
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3137374/posts

MH370 pilot upset over wife’s decision to move out and in ‘no state of mind to be flying’ ...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3137360/posts

MH370: Satellite Images Show Up to 122 ‘Potential Objects’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3137462/posts

‘It was his last joyride’: MH370 pilot was upset over wife moving
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3137489/posts

Watch Video: 122 objects discovered in Flight 370 search area
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3137501/posts

Satellite Detects About 300 Objects ... ‘Highly Likely That It Is Trash’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3137879/posts

‘No one would ever find it’: MH370’s erratic final moments ... a terrifying suicide mission....
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3137884/posts

Son of Malaysian Airlines captain breaks silence about father
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3138066/posts

Malaysia says there’s sealed evidence on MH370 that cannot be made public
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3138106/posts

Why did somebody doctor photo of men who took Flight MH370? (Shortened Title)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3138114/posts

“Alright, Goodnight” – Does Malaysia Want To Know What Happened To Flight MH-370?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3138129/posts

Scientists believe they know where MH370 crashed
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3138166/posts


17 posted on 03/28/2014 4:29:18 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: gusopol3

Shell game ?


Perhaps they do not want to find the plane but would instead prefer that it find us?


18 posted on 03/28/2014 4:29:45 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: blueplum

Thanks ... :-) ...


19 posted on 03/28/2014 4:30:01 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: FAA
-----I don’t know how any terror organization benefits from stealing an airplane and then waiting weeks, months, years to use it for nefarious purposes while the international world searches for it in earnest.------

Well you just haven't read the book....... check it out


20 posted on 03/28/2014 4:38:23 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: blueplum
Airlines Flight MH370 was re-directed on Friday to an area 1,100 km (685 miles) north of where they have been searching for more than a week, after Australian authorities received new radar information from Malaysia.

Unbelievable that Malaysia has held onto this information for 3 weeks while they had it only hours after the crash and deceitfully led 14 nations on a wild goose chase in the South China Sea for a week.

21 posted on 03/28/2014 4:55:45 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Aurorales; maggief; hoosiermama; LucyT; crosslink; Black Agnes; null and void

Aurorales,
Good points.

All y’all, ping to this topic and post!


22 posted on 03/28/2014 5:00:31 AM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: blueplum
estimated route at faster airspeed

Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't that new search area be from an estimated route at SLOWER airspeed????

23 posted on 03/28/2014 5:00:48 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: bert

Works well for fiction and entertainment purposes but not for reality.

And that’s a big part of the deal here. Too many are ascribing fiction and movie plots to a scenario where glaring reality rule the day. We need it to be spectacular when it is not. We fill in the dark spots with our imagination. Whether or not it is realistic or plausible or likely it sates us.


24 posted on 03/28/2014 5:01:38 AM PDT by FAA
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To: FAA

like i said, you haven’t read the book


25 posted on 03/28/2014 5:03:52 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Islander7

The new flight route brings the flight route closer to Indonesia, Australia, and the Cocos where a bailout would have been more likely and more survivable.


26 posted on 03/28/2014 5:04:21 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: blueplum

Aw Jeez. Not a new search site.

27 posted on 03/28/2014 5:08:08 AM PDT by McGruff (They say the first casualty of war is truth)
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To: bert

“like i said, you haven’t read the book”

Good Lord.

No I haven’t and I don’t need to to understand cold, hard reality. Reality may not be what we want it to be but it doesn’t require conspiracies or wild theories to get us to that point. Strange things happen. Things we can’t understand or rationalize personally. It doesn’t make them supernatural or without explanation or necessary of international intrigue.


28 posted on 03/28/2014 5:11:14 AM PDT by FAA
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To: blueplum
The new search area is larger, but closer to the Australian west coast city of Perth, allowing aircraft to spend longer on site by shortening travel times.

This makes it sound like the old joke about the lost keys ... "If you lost your keys over there, why are you searching here?" "Because the light is better here ... "

29 posted on 03/28/2014 5:22:53 AM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> was re-directed on Friday to an area 1,100 km (685 miles) north of where they have been searching for more than a week

Okay, consider what this means — the current developed narrative is that the pilot singlehandedly (or with the help of the copilot) disabled two different systems, *doing so at two different times, with no apparent reason for the delay*, then turned the plane west, then south, and flew it into the ocean after running it out of fuel, and without any interference from the rest of the flight crew, including flight attendants, and without any reaction from over 200 passengers.

The rest of the narrative is, the four passengers flying with stolen identities were just on the plane by coincidence. And the destruction of the plane wasn’t claimed as a terrorist act by anyone.

If the four were hijackers, they could have taken over the plane, but clearly they were able to successfully fly it — apart from flying in the wrong direction.

Until the carcass of the plane is found, the narrative is a steaming pile of offal.

Thanks blueplum.


30 posted on 03/28/2014 6:05:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/alreadyposted/index)
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To: Uncle Chip

Is there a door from he cockpit?


31 posted on 03/28/2014 6:49:29 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: Aurorales; Uncle Chip; WildHighlander57

Or they are delaying any rescue till all have died. Remember the orange rectangle sighted by one of the first. The reported GPS and flare dropped. Nothing said about it again


32 posted on 03/28/2014 7:06:19 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: hoosiermama

He would use one toward the rear of the plane or cargo hole if bailing or coast the plane down in a controlled crash and swim away —


33 posted on 03/28/2014 7:08:50 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: gusopol3

Yep. Here, there and everywhere. Meanwhile on a airstrip in Pakistan/Iran. :-)


34 posted on 03/28/2014 7:14:03 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Would need to meet up with boat or be over land when he crossed back over the country


35 posted on 03/28/2014 8:25:06 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: FAA
I don’t know how any terror organization benefits from stealing an airplane and then waiting weeks, months, years to use it for nefarious purposes while the international world searches for it in earnest. That’s not in their best interest. You hijack an airplane and use it immediately for your purposes before anyone has time to react. The more time you add the better the world is at preparing to defend itself against your intentions.

I don't either, BUT there is a valley of death, a time between too prompt to react, and long enough for your opponent to drop their guard.

On 9/11 God blessed the USA with a prompt response, both by the federal government who promptly, wisely and totally unexpectedly grounded everything and by the passengers on flight 93 who took their plane out of play.

There were reports (since vanished down the memory hole!) of several groups of swarthy young men simply walking away from their abruptly grounded flights and and luggage and melting away.

In the post 9/11 world, the immediate action window is minutes to hours.

What about the other wall? With hundreds of 777s flying every day, threat fatigue will set in in a matter of months.

If the nefarious ones dump bodies, luggage and seat cushions in the south India Ocean, the alert level drops precipitously.

Eliminating an existing flight and substituting the "vanished" airframe loaded with whatever evil (explosives, nerve gas, whatever) becomes a possibility.

We have a patient and determined foe. One who is capable of attempting to blow up the WTC and failing (in 1993, remember?) and continuing over nearly a decade to achieve that goal.

My bet is that we won't be the target, as obama is already actively working to support the most radical islamist side in any conflict.

My bet is the 777 will be modified as a dam buster and used on the Three Gorges Dam, as China is not showing proper obeisance to the uighurs...

36 posted on 03/28/2014 8:57:56 AM PDT by null and void ( Everything evil in the world may not be Islamic but everything Islamic is evil.)
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To: FAA
I don’t know how any terror organization benefits from stealing an airplane and then waiting weeks, months, years to use it for nefarious purposes while the international world searches for it in earnest.

The 'wait' part could have to do with dry run stuff. I've watched some of this on TV and so far they've let out the codes for hijacking right on TV... and they've established the 'mistakes' the pilots made that called attention to them... Why do you think radical Muslims did dry runs before and after 9/11. These folks are NOT in a hurry...

37 posted on 03/28/2014 10:32:56 AM PDT by GOPJ (NASA: N othing A bout S pace A nymore - - FreperClearCase_guy)
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To: bert

Most plots that work in fiction don’t work in reality. Too many moving parts, too many complications, all of which make for wonderful suspense, but they don’t tend to make for plans that actually accomplish goals. Really if you’re a terrorist organization that wants a plane it’s quite simple: go to one of your rich benefactors, have them buy a plane from one of the many boneyards in the world preferably a non-American one with less paperwork, have them give you the plane, now do with it as you please quickly rendering it untraceable. Simple, straightforward, guaranteed successful, and horribly uninteresting as a plot for a book or movie.


38 posted on 03/28/2014 10:41:40 AM PDT by discostu (Call it collect, call it direct, call it TODAY!)
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