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Historians claim to have recovered Holy Grail
The New York Post ^ | March 31, 2014 | Bob Fredericks

Posted on 03/31/2014 11:02:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Spanish historians say they have discovered what Monty Python could not – the Holy Grail, the legendary cup Jesus supposedly drank from at the Last Supper.

The Spaniards – Margarita Torres and José Ortega del Río – believe the 2,000-year-old vessel is in a church in León in northern Spain.

The pair spent three years studying the history of the chalice and last week published a book, “The Kings of the Grail,” making their case.

The onyx chalice, they explained, was concealed within another antique vessel known as the Chalice of Doña Urruca, which is located in León’s basilica of Saint Isidore.

The historians said it has been there since the 11th century.

“This is a very important discovery because it helps solve a big puzzle,” Torres told The Irish Times. “We believe this could be start of a wonderful stage of research.”

She said the duo had been researching the history of some Islamic remains in the Saint Isidore basilica. But their discovery of two medieval Egyptian documents that mentioned the chalice of Christ caused them to change direction, the paper reported.

Those parchments told a tale of how Muslims took the sacred cup from the Christian community in Jerusalem to Cairo....

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: archaeology; cairo; chaliceofdonaurruca; christianity; christians; etinarcadiaego; etinarcardiaego; godsgraveglyphs; godsgravesglyphs; holygrail; islam; jerusalem; jesus; joseortegadelro; leon; margaritatorres; montypython; religionofpieces; saintisidore; spain; theholygrail; thelastsupper
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To: SaxxonWoods

I think that’s the idea. People’s curiosity is aroused and they buy the book.


21 posted on 04/01/2014 2:57:00 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Bullish

Well the Knights Templar never disbanded in Spain. They were a key element in the “Reconquista”. They only changed their name to “the Order of Christ”. They survive to this day as a charitable organization


22 posted on 04/01/2014 3:10:42 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
My thoughts, as well. It's awfully ornate and appears to have inset gemstones. Given what we know about Jesus, it doesn't seem his style.
23 posted on 04/01/2014 3:32:13 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: liberalh8ter

They should check the bottom. It has a “Made In China” sticker...


24 posted on 04/01/2014 4:27:31 AM PDT by Russ (Repeal the 17th amendment)
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To: Russ

Then forget about carbon dating, it should be tested for toxic substances.


25 posted on 04/01/2014 4:34:50 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks 2ndDivisionVet. Et in Arcadia ego.

26 posted on 04/01/2014 6:15:59 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Obama is now making Jimmy Carter look like Attila the Hun. /focus/news/3138768/posts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The probability of the son of a carpenter using an onyx chalice seem rather small. As in the “Indiana Jones” movie, Jesus probably used a common wooden or pottery cup, which means it’s likely been dust for a long time.


27 posted on 04/01/2014 6:25:36 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s not the cup of a carpenter.


28 posted on 04/01/2014 6:32:09 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: liberalh8ter

I don’t believe the story, either, but the piece that they claim is the actual chalice is, apparently, encased in the ornate one:

The onyx chalice, they explained, was concealed within another antique vessel known as the Chalice of Doña Urruca, which is located in León’s basilica of Saint Isidore.


29 posted on 04/01/2014 7:18:09 AM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hoax.... the grail is myth.

The vessel that contained the Blood of Christ is was a living person


30 posted on 04/01/2014 7:32:10 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Spot on. The chalice, if it could be called that, was just an ordinary drinking cup. Likely long cracked and gone.


31 posted on 04/01/2014 7:54:55 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: PapaBear3625

Actually, Jews used cups carved from stone for religious events, such as a Passover meal.


32 posted on 04/01/2014 8:14:36 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: liberalh8ter; Mr Ramsbotham
"It's awfully ornate and appears to have inset gemstones. Given what we know about Jesus, it doesn't seem his style."

RTFA. The 'chalice' is the black & brown onyx object. All the gold and jewel crap is the typical "gilding of the lily" embellishment with which one object-reverencing sector of Christianity is renowned for defacing historic treasures and sites...

33 posted on 04/01/2014 9:37:24 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: Bigg Red
Thanks for the explanation. I had to leave for an appointment and couldn't finish the entire article.
34 posted on 04/01/2014 1:22:24 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I suppose this could be genuine, but the gold and jewels would have had to have been added. I'd love to see the complete provenance for it.

35 posted on 04/01/2014 1:31:41 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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