Posted on 04/25/2014 1:42:41 PM PDT by neverdem
In the late 1920s, astronomer Edwin Hubble established that the light we detect from galaxies is shifted toward the redder colors of the spectrum, indicating that they are moving away from us at enormous speeds. And the farther away galaxies are, the faster they are fleeing. Rewinding that expansion through mathematics — dividing distance by speed — indicates that something extraordinary happened about 14 billion years ago, when the entire universe was small, dense and exceedingly hot.
Scientists such as Alexander Friedmann and Georges Lemaitre had anticipated the big bang — which Lemaitre described as a “Cosmic Egg exploding at the moment of creation.” Others theorized that such an event would have left a detectable residue of hydrogen plasma grown cold over time. In the 1960s, Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson duly detected it — finding microwave background radiation in every direction they pointed their telescope. The whole sky glows faintly at a temperature of about 3 degrees above absolute zero. Part of the static between channels on broadcast television is an echo of the big bang.
These are some of the most regularly confirmed, noncontroversial findings of modern science. Yet a recent poll found that a majority of Americans are “not too” or “not at all” confident that “the universe began 13.8 billion years ago with a big bang.”
Some of this skepticism, surely, reflects the inherent difficulty of imagining unimaginable scales of time and space. And some fault must lie with American scientific education, which routinely transforms the consideration of wonders into a chore and a bore. But the poll also found that confidence in the big bang declines as belief in a Supreme Being increases...
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"Hidden in Plainn Sight II" postulates an alternative, that being a modification of the General Theory of Relativity. No big "bang," more like a "push," as gravitiy seeks to obtain a (massive) system with a surface area proportional to its mass.
Nicely done!
Well stated!!
Consider the claim in Isaiah 45:7 made by the One Who also claimed to be the Creator:
"I form [shape] light and I create darkness."
Unsurprisingly, the universe was dark until inflation and expansion dropped the temperature to 3,000 degrees Kelvin. Then protons and electrons were able to bond and form hydrogen -- and photons were freed to propagate as EM radiation.
...and God said, "Let there be light"...
There was no matter, of any kind, until God created Space and Time.
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I don't disagree -- but I don't see your point.
There was nothing -- neither matter, nor space, nor energy nor time -- until God created them all -- simultaneously.
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I am with you my brother, yet there seems to be others that would rather accept any other alternative.
I have become resolved to understand that people, in our time, don’t care.
All atheists and way to many Christians. Seemed to be more concerned about themselves than anything that may disturb the foundations of their belief.
Ironically, if there was NO Bible, No Genesis they would be asking us to accept this “farcical” fantasy. It’s “Science” after all.
Relativism, has no place in science but this is where things get really F88ked up.
Modern science has accepted relativism, uncertainty, where as the thoughtful Christian wants proof.
True situation - I was baptized a Lutheran and many of the cousins on my Dad’s side of the family are young earthers... My mother’s side are more open... They are Methodists and Presbyterians
exactly
In Europe it helped that the Protestant religions did not have a big list of proscribed books and authors. In Galileo’s case it was protestant scientists who kept his works alive after the Church forbade them.
If the Big Bang is the same event as God speaking the heavens and the earth into existence, I don’t think any Christian theologian would reject it.
That 'stuff' is still around, though tremendously diluted per unit volume due to the expansion and thus cooling of the Universe. There is no indication --that I can find so far-- in The Bible which tells us precisely when the dimension of Consciousness or the dimension of Spirit was added to the Universe of God's Creating.
For planet Earth and humankind, the Bible indicates that dimension Spirit was added to the mix with God Breathing a living soul into Adam, as more than just a soul of consciousness.
I sense there is a very good point in what you’re saying. But it needs to be more coherent.
Please do me a favor. I would ask that you restructure this sentence so that it makes sense:
“Dimensions Space and Time differentiated from the initial singularity God brought into existence imparted enough energy to generate the stuff of which quarks eventually condensed (a condensate from a very hot quantum vacuum).’
And otherwise make your comment a bit more concise.
I welcome anything you can teach me pertaining to the topic of my comment in post #55. What I seem to know is vastly outweighed by what I don’t.
When universities adhered to the truth, reason and faith were learned side by side. This was especially noted during the years following the Reformation when the Jesuit universities and the Protestant universities in Germany and Holland taught reason and faith side by side with each respecting the other. Because of that period of time the world witnessed a rather spectacular growth and understanding of both science and religion.
However, the Enlightenment, especially in France, was engineered primarily to separate science and faith in order to get rid of faith. Science today takes most of its cues from that Enlightenment which hated God. The French Revolution was the collective fist shaken in the face of God.
The American Revolution was far different with a much better outcome. Our Founding Fathers were actually taught old school scholasticism so that when they wrote our Founding documents they did so with utmost respect for reason and faith.
Does that help any?
So who cares about this "poll?" Polls are measures of opinion, not of facts, let alone Truth.
Opinions are what Plato called doxa, in contrast to sophia (wisdom). We live in an age that regards every man's opinion as just as good (or bad) as any other man's. If that's the case, then why should we rely on public opinion polls? If opinions are morally neutral — as it has become fashionable to regard them — then how can we tell whether they are "good" or "bad?" And if we can't tell that, then what good are they in helping us resolve contentious problems involving man, world, science, and society?
I do take your point, dear brother in Christ, about the inverse correlation in the poll numbers that reflects the divergence between (1) increasing confidence in big bang theory and science generally and (2) traditional belief in the Creator God; and thus this divergence's fruitfulness for proselytizing one's opinion from either aside of the divide. It is such of which Towers of Babel are constructed: Doxa is not our friend.
Personally, I believe both in Genesis and the Big Bang, and do not find them in conflict in the least. FWIW. For God reveals Himself to us in both....
Thank you so much for writing, dear brother!
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