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White House opens door to tolls on interstate highways, removing long-standing prohibition
Washington Post ^ | 4/29/14 | Ashley Halsey III

Posted on 04/30/2014 3:59:00 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

...the Obama administration Tuesday opened the door for states to collect tolls on interstate highways to raise revenue for roadway repairs.

The proposal, contained in a four-year, $302 billion White House transportation bill, would reverse a long-standing federal prohibition on most interstate tolling.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: interstatehighways; jobs; money; obamanomics; taxes
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No decision the govt makes is to its detriment.

GTH, WH.


21 posted on 04/30/2014 4:17:02 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: cripplecreek

Of course. But it’s no different than saying we’re all users of the electrical grid because every business passes on its energy costs to its customers. You wouldn’t expect to have everyone get “free” electricity that’s financed through a tax on every purchase of a product or service, would you?


22 posted on 04/30/2014 4:18:42 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I've never seen such a conclave of minstrels in my life.")
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To: SoFloFreeper
for states to collect tolls on interstate highways to raise revenue for roadway repairs.

Isn't that what high gasoline taxes are for?

Just another source of revenue for the greedy Bas####s.

23 posted on 04/30/2014 4:22:44 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha. 1 Cor 16: 32)
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To: Alberta's Child

How about putting the cost of education only on folks w/kids in school?


24 posted on 04/30/2014 4:33:06 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: SoFloFreeper

It’s government’s way of fleecing those most equipped to actually earn a tax-paying living.

The poor, the entitled, the leeches won’t have to worry about it on their government subsidized public transportation on the way down to the welfare office, to/from their Section 8 housing.

Just more taxes, strangulation of business and commerce and eventual price increases in the economy so the government can maintain its bloated carcass.


25 posted on 04/30/2014 4:34:28 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yeah that was me.

The sad thing is that plenty of revenue is collected to take care of the interstate highway system unfortunately some 30% is skimmed right off the top before we even consider spending money on transportation. Then the states and feds blow money on unnecessary crap at an astounding rate.

In Detroit, the people mover is rider funded at a rate of about 3% with the other 97% picked up by taxpayers in the form of transportation funding and other taxpayer money. Lord knows how much money we spend for AMTRAK to run empty trains all over the country. Several cities use federal funds to put sensors in parking lots so people can use phone aps to find parking spaces.

My county recently approved $2 million from federal transportation funds to tear down a concrete wall that should have never been built in a county park. Fortunately the outrage forced them to go looking for money elsewhere. We did pay several hundred thousand to repave a bike path across town not to mention the ongoing cost of keeping it plowed during the winter.


26 posted on 04/30/2014 4:35:07 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Graybeard58

One more economy crusher.


27 posted on 04/30/2014 4:36:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Ah hope...

...and your CHANGE.

28 posted on 04/30/2014 4:38:17 AM PDT by Theophilus (.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

The West Virginia Turnpike

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_Turnpike

Is still a toll road, commissioned in 1952
At the time, it was the most expensive turnpike ever built, per mile. My Father floated the bond issue that created it, and had the first bond printed in his office. It’s maintanance is still a major cost item. I understand well why it it is charging tolls.


29 posted on 04/30/2014 4:43:30 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Gaffer

On the bright side, we’ll all get to see more of America because we’ll be taking alternate scenic routes rather than paying the toll on the King’s road.


30 posted on 04/30/2014 4:46:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SoFloFreeper
"opened the door for states to collect tolls on interstate highways to raise revenue for roadway repairs."

The roads should need less maintenance with no one using them.
31 posted on 04/30/2014 4:47:08 AM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: fruser1
How about putting the cost of education only on folks w/kids in school?

An excellent idea that will never happen in these united socialist states of america

32 posted on 04/30/2014 4:47:29 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: cripplecreek

That’s true, but it will seriously clog up those local roads.


33 posted on 04/30/2014 4:52:03 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: Gaffer

Exactly. Tax then subsidize. I’m amazed societal inertia has us still moving. We’re dead.


34 posted on 04/30/2014 4:52:05 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Alberta's Child
One big flaw with the fuel tax is that revenues decline consistently over time as: (1) vehicles running on something other than gasoline or diesel fuel become more common, and (2) vehicles running on these fossil fuels become more fuel efficient.

I'm curious as to why you consider this a flaw. I'd consider anything that reduces taxes to the citizen to be an advantage or a strength.

This is always preferred to a tax scheme where a lot of the costs of the infrastructure are paid by everyone.

How is a fuel tax paid by everyone? Only those who buy fuel (presumably to power their motor vehicles) pay the tax.

35 posted on 04/30/2014 4:53:18 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: Alberta's Child

Toll roads, toll interstates, are at this point a repressive anti-freedom proposition. Why the heck d’ya think the WH is putting its dirty thumb in this pie? Control and surveillance of movements with loss of privacy & free movement. Bottlenecks real and contrived (”Beeline” “expressway” after a Cana eral shuttle launch comes to mind). Don’t fall it.


36 posted on 04/30/2014 4:54:08 AM PDT by cyn
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To: clearcarbon

Oddly enough I actually came around to agreeing with Jenny Granholm’s idea of allowing some roads to return to dirt.

30 years ago where I was grew up oil and gas infrastructure was going in and the heavy truck traffic was destroying the dirt roads so they paved them all. Today, the trucks are mostly gone and we still maintain paved roads where there are 1 or 2 houses per mile and might see 5 or 10 vehicles per day.


37 posted on 04/30/2014 4:55:51 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: HangnJudge

What does that have to do with Obama collecting tolls for federal interstates? Other than the fact that they refer to roads?


38 posted on 04/30/2014 4:56:01 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

When we first moved to brevard co fl, the road that connected Orlando(orange co) to the beach in brevard county was a toll road. Road was paid for in the 80’s and brevard tried to remove toll booths, but the toll collectors said they have to collect enough to tear down the booths first. Story I heard was a contractor volunteered to tear down the booths. Bottom line: brevard county got rid of tolls on roads....Orange County has only added more toll roads.. Of course they were growing by leaps and bounds.


39 posted on 04/30/2014 5:03:40 AM PDT by June2
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To: SoFloFreeper
What does that have to do with Obama collecting tolls for federal interstates?

The West Virginia Turnpike is now a Federal Interstate I-77. When it was upgraded, 90% funds were Federal. It, and the Pennsylvania Turnpike, cut through very difficult Appalachian mountain terrain to connect North-South and East-West Mid-states.

Both still operate off of Tolls

Now, adding tolls to current Interstates is another matter

40 posted on 04/30/2014 5:05:43 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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