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The Collapse of Anti-Gay Religion
Slate ^ | 5-1-2014 | William Saletan

Posted on 05/05/2014 7:26:10 AM PDT by Flame Retardant

Throughout history, religion has sanctioned and fueled the persecution of homosexuality. That dynamic may be drawing to an end. Polls, clerics, and denominations are shifting. Theology is adapting. Resistance to same-sex marriage is dwindling, and there’s no end in sight.

For 15 years, the Ethics and Public Policy Center has hosted the Faith Angle Forum, a regular conference on religion and public life. Several weeks ago, the group met again to discuss current issues. Transcripts of the conference have just been posted on EPPC’s website. They underscore the extent of the anti-gay collapse.

The first session, led by papal biographer Paul Vallely and Boston Globe editor John Allen, focused on Pope Francis and the Catholic Church. Vallely, the author of Pope Francis: Untying the Knots, noted that before Francis became pope, he supported civil unions in Argentina....

The conference’s second session dwelled on sin. The speakers, Cornelius Plantinga of Calvin College and Ross Douthat of the New York Times, discussed what we should feel bad about. Homosexuality wasn’t on the list.... “It used to be that people thought of homosexual acts as sinful,” he said. “Now they think of criticism of homosexual acts as sinful.”...

The next morning, we had our final session, on the culture wars. Molly Ball, the Atlantic’s terrific political writer, summarized the trend toward acceptance of same-sex marriage. Forty percent of Republicans and 61 percent of Republicans under 30 now favor it, she reported. So do 57 percent of Catholics and 55 percent of mainline Protestants....

There will always be Christians, Muslims, and Jews who condemn homosexuality.... But in this country, religious resistance is crumbling. It’s being overwhelmed by love, conscience, and a God who keeps creating gay kids, even in the most devout families. Over time, He will prevail.

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


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To: Flame Retardant; TheOldLady; Old Sarge; darkwing104; Servant of the Cross; CatherineofAragon; ...
Queer Agenda Pusher finally plays with lighting too much.





Saw this coming for awhile, surprised it didn't happen sooner.
61 posted on 05/05/2014 9:20:35 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: lurk

13. the prudent—the spiritually wise.

shall keep silence—not mere silence of tongue, but the prudent shall keep himself quiet from taking part in any public or private affairs which he can avoid: as it is “an evil time,” and one in which all law is set at naught. Eph 5:16 refers to this. Instead of impatiently agitating against irremediable evils, the godly wise will not cast pearls before swine, who would trample these, and rend the offerers (Mt 7:6),


62 posted on 05/05/2014 9:21:18 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
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To: Flame Retardant; TheOldLady

This flaming bastard met the lightening!

I was wondering what was the stench is all about.


63 posted on 05/05/2014 9:24:30 AM PDT by melancholy
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To: Flame Retardant; dfwgator

Slate, of course. Nothing they say is relevant, and on this topic they are completely ignorant.


64 posted on 05/05/2014 9:25:35 AM PDT by darkangel82
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To: CatherineofAragon
Three times I asked Flame Retardant where he stands on queer marriage (on another thread) and three times he refused a direct response.

And this surprises you exactly why?

You may rely on the fact that most, if not all, Freepers (excluding the 'expert' un-outed trolls) can separate pro-sodomy promoters from normal people.

65 posted on 05/05/2014 9:34:20 AM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: cuban leaf
I never call them gay. I call them homosexuals.

I call them insane, deviant perverts.

66 posted on 05/05/2014 9:36:23 AM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: Flame Retardant; EveningStar

Yeah, I knew you were a troll.

Ping to the one who chastised us about calling you on it.


67 posted on 05/05/2014 9:37:17 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Flame Retardant
Oh yes, welcome, and goodbye from Free Republic.

Back to NAMBLA with you!

68 posted on 05/05/2014 9:38:43 AM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: a fool in paradise
There is an active campaign now to protect the “rights” of persons with AIDS from having to reveal their virus status to their sex partner(s). It can lead to “verbal and physical abuse” and “discrimination”.

So long as they limit their predation to other deviant perverts, I don't see the problem.

69 posted on 05/05/2014 9:40:37 AM PDT by publius911 ( At least Nixon had the good g race to resign!)
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To: publius911
"And this surprises you exactly why?"

It didn't surprise me at all.

70 posted on 05/05/2014 9:45:37 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Flame Retardant

So much for pushing fecally-obsessed perversion on FR, hm?


71 posted on 05/05/2014 9:46:53 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: dfwgator

God ushers sinners (original sin) into this mortal coil in hopes and plans that those who are willing to turn back to God will do so. We cheat ourselves by saying that this world is all there is.


72 posted on 05/05/2014 9:48:39 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: CatherineofAragon; Flame Retardant
You’re not responding on your own thread?


73 posted on 05/05/2014 9:52:06 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: publius911

Seeing as their materials include giving birth, it would be infected women as well as men.


http://www.ippf.org/resource/Healthy-Happy-and-Hot-young-peoples-guide-rights

“A guide for young people living with HIV to help them understand their sexual rights”

“Sexual and reproductive rights are recognized around the world as human rights - Every person living with HIV is entitled to these rights and they are necessary for the development and well-being of all people and the societies in which they live.”

“Young people living with HIV may feel that sex is just not an option, but don’t worry — many young people living with HIV live healthy, fun, happy and sexually fulfi lling lives. You can too, if you want to! Things get easier (and sex can get even better) as you become more comfortable with your status.”

“This guide is here to support your sexual pleasure and health, and to help you develop strong intimate relationships. It explores how your human rights and sexual well-being are related and suggests strategies to help you
make decisions about dating, relationships, sex and parenthood. It explores the rights of young people living with HIV to:

• express and enjoy their sexuality (page 3)
• decide if, when, and how to disclose their
HIV status (page 5)
• experience sexual pleasure (page 7)
• take care of their sexual health (page 9)
• practise safer sex (page 11)
• choose if, when, how many, and with whom
to have children (page 13)
• access support and services that respect
their dignity, autonomy, privacy and
well-being (page 15)


Because it’s all about what “YOU” want, regardless of health impacts on your partner(s) or children.


74 posted on 05/05/2014 9:53:50 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: CatherineofAragon

Cat got his tongue.


75 posted on 05/05/2014 9:54:38 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (The new witchhunt: "Do you NOW, . . . or have you EVER , . . supported traditional marriage?")
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To: dfwgator

Love that kitteh


76 posted on 05/05/2014 10:02:47 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: a fool in paradise

See post #73, LOL


77 posted on 05/05/2014 10:03:21 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Flame Retardant

I have no doubt that there is some truth in this article. The assault on Christianity continues undiminished.

That does not change fundamental truth, however. Homosexuality may seem normal for some people, but it is not normal for the vast majority of the population. Furthermore, it is not only immoral, but unhealthy, and medically expensive. It diminishes the propagation of the species too, which some people do not seem to grasp - that two genders are needed for propagation, and without heterosexual sex, the species will die.

There is a valid and common sense reason why homosexuality is frowned upon, and it is not confined to the Christian religion.


78 posted on 05/05/2014 10:08:46 AM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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To: cuban leaf

Yo cuban leaf!
I call them sodomites.


79 posted on 05/05/2014 11:08:40 AM PDT by willibeaux (de ole Korean War vet age 84)
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To: Flame Retardant; Bikkuri; humblegunner; darkwing104; 50mm; Arrowhead1952; LUV W; Eaker; ...

So long, Flame Retardant (Posting History)
Hat Tip to Bikkuri, who pinged me
Flaming homosexual agenda pusher posts one perverted essay too many
Rides the lightning and will probably be too sore to ride anything else for a long time



What part of "Conservative, pro-God, pro-guns, pro-guts, and pro-decency" don't you understand?



FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

80 posted on 05/05/2014 11:11:18 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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