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Dems weigh options on Benghazi panel
The Hill ^ | May 7, 2014 | Mike Lillis

Posted on 05/07/2014 9:50:48 AM PDT by jazusamo

House Democrats are still weighing their options about whether to participate in a special probe into the deadly 2012 attacks on the U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, party leaders said Wednesday.

Following a closed-door meeting of the Democratic Caucus Wednesday morning, the leaders said they're awaiting Speaker John Boehner's (R-Ohio) response to requested changes to the panel before they'll decide whether to participate.

"We'll wait for a written response from the Speaker's office, and we in the leadership, in consultation with our members, will make a decision going forward as to how we'll deal with this," said Rep. Joe Crowley (N.Y.), vice chairman of the Democratic Caucus.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) sent a letter to Boehner late Tuesday night blasting the GOP's "partisan" proposal creating a special investigative committee and requesting more powers for Democrats on the panel.

But the leaders stopped short of saying they'll boycott the process, even in its current form. And leaving Wednesday's meeting, Hoyer, while amplifying his criticisms of the special panel as unnecessary, said Democratic leaders remain undecided on the boycott question.

"This is all about their politics and not about substance," Hoyer said.

The Democrats are requesting an even bipartisan split on the panel in lieu of the proposed 7:5 ratio favoring the majority Republicans. They also want the Democrats to have subpoena powers and more explicit authority to depose witnesses.

Rep. Xavier Becerra (Calif.) characterized the GOP's current blueprint as "a kangaroo court in the making."

"The signs have been distressing that it won't be balanced; that this will be a partisan endeavor; that full power will divest in one person, the chairman; that the length of the select committee's life is indeterminate – it could go on forever; that the amount of money that they could spend is undefined and could be unlimited," Becerra said Wednesday. "So it's a very disconcerting matter … and we're hoping to get more clarification."

They shouldn't hold their breath. Boehner has characterized the proposed panel as "a responsible approach." And Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), who will head the committee, suggested Wednesday morning that Republicans have no intention of altering their bill.

"Do you challenge the credibility of the Senate Judiciary Committee? Because it’s certainly not evenly split,” Gowdy said in an interview on NBC's "Morning Joe" program. “As the president loves to say, elections have consequences.”

With the House expected to vote to create the committee on Thursday, Democratic leaders are lining up in opposition. "We are going to vote against it. There's no doubt about that," Hoyer said. But it remains unclear if any Democrats will cross the aisle to back the measure.

Democrats are accusing the Republicans of extending an investigative process that's already been exhausted by a series of hearings and investigations, including an ongoing probe by House Oversight and Government Reform Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.).

Democratic leaders said Wednesday that Boehner's decision to launch the special investigation after many months of opposing that option was aimed largely to defuse an escalating feud between Issa and House Armed Services Chairman Buck McKeon (R-Calif), who had taken the rare step of criticizing Issa's star witness during the Oversight panel's Benghazi hearing last Thursday.

"There's no indication that this select committee will act any differently than the government Oversight Committee and the authority that they have already today," Crowley said. "This is the full neutering of Chairman Issa and his 16 months of work, but nothing new will come of this."

The Democrats also maintain the GOP's continued interest is designed largely to embarrass the White House, as well as former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who is a potential 2016 presidential front-runner.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: benghazi; democrats; demsgowdybsc; gowdy; gowdybsc; johnboehner; ohio; selectcommittee; southcarolina; treygowdy; whine
Major whine time for Democrats, it's different when the shoe's on the other foot.
1 posted on 05/07/2014 9:50:48 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

If the (R)s would just not pay any attention to what these leftist want & do their job I will be greatly surprised


2 posted on 05/07/2014 9:54:21 AM PDT by Digger
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To: jazusamo
How about just telling the truth, then you won't have any “options” to weigh!
3 posted on 05/07/2014 9:56:30 AM PDT by Obadiah (I like Krabby Patties.)
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To: Digger

I hear you but have hope that Trey Gowdy will influence Boehner against caving.


4 posted on 05/07/2014 9:56:58 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo
Imagine .... the democRAT response to this ...

The Democrats Republicans also maintain the GOP's democrat's continued interest [in Watergate] is designed largely to embarrass the White House, as well as former Secretary of State Hillary ClintonVP Gerald Ford, who is a potential 20161976 presidential front-runner.

5 posted on 05/07/2014 9:57:48 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Servant of the Cross

The press shouted Watergate from the mountaintops for two years, implying sinister motives to everyone in the Nixon Administration, always tying the story together, and using slogans such as “above the law’ and “the Imperial Presidency.”

When Democrats are involved, they attack and impugn anyone who questions their pets.


6 posted on 05/07/2014 10:04:43 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: jazusamo

Gowdy is probably even more incensed than we are, having more facts, and the RATS are correct in assuming he is going to burn down their house, and their basement.

Hope like hell Cummings is precluded from the panel.


7 posted on 05/07/2014 10:06:49 AM PDT by txhurl (Trump/Cruz '16, and everybody else for Cabinet members.)
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To: jazusamo

Vacillate. Obfuscate. Prevaricate.

Dems provide maximum opportunity for use of Latin derivatives.


8 posted on 05/07/2014 10:10:16 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: txhurl
Hope like hell Cummings is precluded from the panel.

That would be a very good thing, Elijah likely would have a stroke.

9 posted on 05/07/2014 10:10:21 AM PDT by jazusamo
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10 posted on 05/07/2014 10:13:24 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

What options are there to simply telling the truth? If they have to weigh options vs. telling the truth, there’s obviously something to hide.


11 posted on 05/07/2014 10:14:48 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: jazusamo

Here’s an ‘option’ to weigh on, Democrats:

Cooperate with document requests, tell the truth and admit that mistakes were made.

Anything else will be seen by voters as obstruction


12 posted on 05/07/2014 10:15:24 AM PDT by kidd
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To: jazusamo
They shouldn't hold their breath. Boehner has characterized the proposed panel as "a responsible approach." And Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), who will head the committee, suggested Wednesday morning that Republicans have no intention of altering their bill.

GOOD

13 posted on 05/07/2014 10:17:34 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: jazusamo
C'mon, Dems, man up and show up. Give us Pelosi and Cummings. They're at least good for a few laughs. I'm not counting on anything of substance from the GOPe, so I'm hoping you folks will provide some. Do what you do best - make some noise. Whine, spit, howl, hiss or cry, I don't care. When you know you're on-camera, do some serious profiling. Let's see some more of those ultra-flattering mug shots we're used to getting.
While you have to show up and sit down, you don't have to stfu. Please don't let us down. Show up for the hearings. Your country needs you.
14 posted on 05/07/2014 10:24:40 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN '66-'67)
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To: ComputerGuy

Bump.


15 posted on 05/07/2014 10:27:48 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

The Democrats are worried about spending government money? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Yeah......you betcha.......hahahahahahahahahahahaha!


16 posted on 05/07/2014 10:33:17 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: jazusamo

“..Elijah likely would have a stroke.”

And that would be an even better thing.


17 posted on 05/07/2014 10:35:14 AM PDT by beelzepug (You can't fix a broken washing machine by washing more expensive clothes in it.)
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To: jazusamo

Actually Elijah will probably be nominated for an Academy Award for his acting performance.


18 posted on 05/07/2014 10:36:43 AM PDT by CMailBag
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To: CMailBag

Yep, Elijah would have excelled in Vaudeville.


19 posted on 05/07/2014 10:43:51 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

After getting as much “fund raiser letter material” out of the Select Committee they will quietly become members. They must do this because THEY are the ones being investigated. They will show up to derail the path of the trains roaring toward them. It’s like when you take over a new company and need to know who is stealing - just see who NEVER takes a vacation - that’s your crook.


20 posted on 05/07/2014 10:46:51 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: txhurl
RATS are correct in assuming he is going to burn down their house, and their basement...

After all that, the land itself must be fumigated, doused with acid, and treated as a waste site. Should not even leave one 'Rat spore, as nothing good would come of it.

21 posted on 05/07/2014 10:51:48 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: jazusamo
The democrats are really going off the rails over Benghazi.

(Twitchy)‘Pervert’ Democrat makes Benghazi masturbation joke

Trish4Congress @Trish4Congress

As part of National Masturbation Month, Republicans like screaming the name of their fluffer, Ben Ghazi, when they orgasm.

22 posted on 05/07/2014 10:55:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: jazusamo

I don’t think so, as he is too large to fit on a ventriloquist’s knee.


23 posted on 05/07/2014 10:57:48 AM PDT by fishnuts2 (Not rich enough to be a democrat)
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To: fishnuts2

LOL! Right on but I wish I could photo shop, that’d be a great one.


24 posted on 05/07/2014 11:04:04 AM PDT by jazusamo
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To: Digger
If the (Rs) would not pay any attention

I'd like to see them get away from the cameras, call no one to the stand, and write their report based on real thorough quality research. Figure out where the Benghazi weapons went, then do research there. Write the report. Present the report to the committee when it's done.

If anyone has information that disputes the report, they would come forward on their own....with evidence.

No grandstanding. No soap opera about who will and will not testify. No pleading the fifth. If someone doesn't like the results, they can then decide to defend themselves.

It's the only way they'll get to the bottom of things. Can you imagine turning the tables and hillary having to decide if she wanted to testify to defend herself?

25 posted on 05/07/2014 11:14:49 AM PDT by grania
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To: jazusamo
"Dems weigh options on Benghazi panel"

Truth not being among the options.

26 posted on 05/07/2014 11:34:08 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Mohammed was a Child Rapist and Islam is a Totalitarian Death Cult.)
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To: blueunicorn6
The Democrats are worried about spending government money? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha! Yeah......you betcha.......hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Yeah, I saw the demoncrat congress critter say that on TV and wouldn't help but laugh. With 60%+ of the American people want answers on Benghazi, these demoncrats are making themselves look foolish. I understand they are trying to Alinsky their way out of this but it's making them look like major fools, lol.

CGato

27 posted on 05/07/2014 11:34:39 AM PDT by Conservative Gato
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To: jazusamo

“”The signs have been distressing that it won’t be balanced; that this will be a partisan endeavor; that full power will divest in one person, the chairman; that the length of the select committee’s life is indeterminate – it could go on forever; that the amount of money that they could spend is undefined and could be unlimited,” Becerra said Wednesday.””

Good grief! An earthquake could wipe out CA; the oceans could rise and flood the entire country; the sky might fall; a few democrats could come to their senses; we could have blizzards in August in DC OR we could have a miracle and something could actually get done with this select committee. Only when you have all the facts can you get to the truth!!! Why is that so hard to understand?


28 posted on 05/07/2014 1:56:10 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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