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Obama to spend $20 BILLION on helicopter program to replace his private fleet of 23 choppers
The London Daily Mail ^ | May 9, 2014 | David Martosko, US Political Editor

Posted on 05/10/2014 7:05:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Department of Defense awarded a contract on Wednesday to a Connecticut company that will build a fleet of helicopters to replace the Marine One fleet that ferries U.S. presidents short distances.

The contract, given to Sikorsky Aircraft Corporation, will cost an initial $1,244,677,064 'for the engineering and manufacturing development phase of the Presidential Helicopter Replacement program.' For that price the U.S. Navy will get six test aircraft and all the necessary research & development.

The Pentagon made a similar attempt to replace the aging fleet of Sikorsky choppers, spending $3.2 billion on a landing pad to nowhere.

Adding in the likely $17 billion price tag for the new project – a number estimated by the Congressional Budget Office – the $20 billion total makes the fleet the most expensive helicopters ever built.

The CBO reports that the projected cost also 'does not include costs to keep the 19 existing presidential helicopters in operation until they are replaced by new helicopters.'

During a White House fiscal responsibility summit a month after President Barack Obama took office, Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain mocked the boondoggle helicopter upgrade project that was later shelved.

'Your helicopter is now going to cost as much as Air Force One,' McCain said. 'I don't think there's any more graphic demonstration of how good ideas have cost taxpayers an enormous amount of money.'(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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Full title: Obama administration to spend $20 BILLION on helicopter program to replace
his private fleet of 23 choppers – but they won't be ready until 2022

You know, a lot of countries you've heard of don't spend that much on their ENTIRE military.

1 posted on 05/10/2014 7:05:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He really DOES think he is KING!


2 posted on 05/10/2014 7:06:56 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (What Mormons say: "We're Christian!" What they mean: "We're the only REAL Christians!")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That is nearly 1 Billion per helicopter.

Sorry, but that is not justifiable for any president.


3 posted on 05/10/2014 7:08:42 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: greyfoxx39

You mean emperor, and yes, he kinda is. Show me where someone has seriously stood up to him and thwarted anything he really wanted.


4 posted on 05/10/2014 7:09:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“..his private fleet...2022”.

Take that as a warning folks.


5 posted on 05/10/2014 7:10:57 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is absolutely insane to spend this kind of money on this.


6 posted on 05/10/2014 7:14:12 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This has to be yet another big payoff to, and/or ripoff by, some political comrades of the administration. Unless those copters are made entirely out of gold?


7 posted on 05/10/2014 7:15:14 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One of the versions of this helo had a kitchen on board. Yes. A kitchen.


8 posted on 05/10/2014 7:15:54 PM PDT by calljack (Sometimes your worst nightmare is just a start.)
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To: faithhopecharity

I’m happy to let him have a new copter if he needs one but this is ridiculous


9 posted on 05/10/2014 7:16:41 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

we’d be better off spending 20 billion shipping this jackwad to the moon.

of course i have a 50 cent solution too.


10 posted on 05/10/2014 7:17:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

11 posted on 05/10/2014 7:19:17 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Of course, we need to borrow more from China, don’t we? China needs to buy more of USA.


12 posted on 05/10/2014 7:25:39 PM PDT by entropy12 (I am sick of people who think Obama is no worse than Romney, as bad as Mitt was.)
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To: Bryan24

1 billion ought to buy a real Airwolf type helicopter or two.


13 posted on 05/10/2014 7:25:55 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s about time they replaced those junky old choppers.

I’m guessing the new ones will have wider doors.


14 posted on 05/10/2014 7:26:25 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smoothsailing

LMAO


15 posted on 05/10/2014 7:26:26 PM PDT by entropy12 (I am sick of people who think Obama is no worse than Romney, as bad as Mitt was.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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16 posted on 05/10/2014 7:27:23 PM PDT by LucyT (Where is the $2,500 in health insurance savings 0bama & the Dems Promised Everyone?)
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To: Bryan24

For half that, both Boeing and Airbus sell airplanes that will carry 500 people nearly half-way around the world.

A gigabuck per helicopter?

Someone’s campaign contributions are being repaid many times over.


17 posted on 05/10/2014 7:27:29 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: smoothsailing

The red star is right on, but you should have also added a green star and crescent to state his true religion.


18 posted on 05/10/2014 7:29:38 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

O.K.- I don’t have time right now to research this mc caskill wench but I’ll bet if somebody checks we will find out that she has stolen WAY more that what the NG has spent.
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National Guard NASCAR sponsorship examined by Congress:

The National Guard spent $26.5 million to sponsor NASCAR racing in 2012 to bolster its marketing and recruitment but failed to sign up a single new soldier to its ranks, according to data provided to USA Today. Even though the Guard spent $88 million as a NASCAR sponsor from 2011 to 2013, it is unclear how many new recruits, if any, signed up because of it, according to documents. The Guard on Wednesday would not confirm the figures on prospects and recruits developed through its NASCAR sponsorship.

Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., who will hold a hearing on the recruitment program Thursday, assailed the Guard for “wasting a bunch of money on a very expensive sports sponsorship.” The Guard received 24,800 recruiting prospects from the program in 2012, documents show. In those cases, potential recruits indicated the NASCAR affiliation prompted them to seek more information about joining. Of that group, only 20 met the Guard’s qualifications for entry into the service, and not one of them joined. In 2013, the number of prospects associated with NASCAR dropped to 7,500, according to briefing materials for the Senate subcommittee on Financial and Contracting Oversight led by McCaskill.

The National Guard needs 1 million leads to meet its annual recruiting goal of 50,000 soldiers. The NASCAR initiative, along with the $38 million spent on an IndyCar racing sponsorship, over the same period, will be the target of the hearing led by McCaskill.

Rick Breitenfeldt, a National Guard spokesman, said 90% of Army National Guard soldiers who enlisted or re-enlisted from 2007 to 2013 indicated that they had been exposed to information about the service through NASCAR-related recruiting and retention materials. Sponsoring NASCAR and driver Dale Earnhardt Jr. puts the Guard’s name in front of 77 million fans, he said.(USA Today)(5-7-2014)


19 posted on 05/10/2014 7:30:02 PM PDT by mabarker1 (Please, Somebody Impeach the kenyan!!!! Once again dingy hairball, STFU!!! You corrupt POS!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Old Sarge; Graewoulf; Velveeta; Rushmore Rocks; Oorang; sweetiepiezer; blueyon; ...

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20 posted on 05/10/2014 7:30:07 PM PDT by LucyT (Where is the $2,500 in health insurance savings 0bama & the Dems Promised Everyone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Regardless of who is president, the amount of money we spend on them is outrageous.


21 posted on 05/10/2014 7:30:09 PM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: smokingfrog

The wider doors must be for Moochelle.


22 posted on 05/10/2014 7:32:06 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: LucyT
King Obama photo: Barack Obama - Hail to the King BARACKOBAMA-WESLEYCLARK--PIC-07.jpg I'm reminded of a story of Democrat LBJ (who pretty much awarded himself a Silver Star for flying in the Pacific theater, WWII, on a transport plane). He was boarding a helicopter and a sergeant tried to assist him, saying, "This is your helicopter, sir." And Johnson replied, "They're all my helicopters, son." Of course the only time you ever hear of an "imperial presidency" is when a Republican is in the WH. A billion bucks. Incredible.
23 posted on 05/10/2014 7:36:47 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Bryan24


24 posted on 05/10/2014 7:42:28 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: smokingfrog

The ones they use now aren’t that old.


25 posted on 05/10/2014 7:46:02 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Full title: Obama administration to spend $20 BILLION on helicopter program to replace his private fleet of 23 choppers – but they won't be ready until 2022

He'll still be on the throne chair.
26 posted on 05/10/2014 7:52:37 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Code name ‘Golfcart?’


27 posted on 05/10/2014 7:57:52 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Change!)
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To: smoothsailing






the drama queen has spoken!!
28 posted on 05/10/2014 7:59:17 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: tumblindice

Who’s the white guy behind the Kenyan dog-eater?


29 posted on 05/10/2014 8:00:09 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: tumblindice; LucyT

In the best Austin Powers voice:

That’s a king? That’s a queen, baby!


30 posted on 05/10/2014 8:05:26 PM PDT by melancholy
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To: LucyT

Good imagination, dressing up three trash cans.


31 posted on 05/10/2014 8:14:44 PM PDT by melancholy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That would have bought almost fifty F-22s, but he killed that program.

Get him one of these and call it good:


32 posted on 05/10/2014 8:17:31 PM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They will not be ready by the time Obama leaves the White House, but President Palin will put them to good use.


33 posted on 05/10/2014 8:21:15 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: Oliviaforever


34 posted on 05/10/2014 8:32:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well I am not going to bash Bozo on this one. This is the same program that Bush proposed to award to the British and Obama abandoned 5 years ago.

Yes it is still ridiculously expensive. And that is because the requirements are ridiculous, or at least extreme. And it might be that they should be met.

The helicopter is required to have insane range, have nuclear/EMP survivability, provide secure national emergency communication, and be able to land on The White House lawn.

The helicopters they have meet only the last of these.

A stock S71 has good range and can land at The White House, but will be fried by EMP and does not have the communications channel.

Once you add enough stuff you can’t use a stock airframe, the weights change, the loads change, new structural analyses are required, and airframe redesign thus required, and new NC programs and tooling are then required.It It really does wind up being a whole new helicopter. And so it costs a lot of money.

When an Iranian EMP goes off on the east coast it might be better to have President Gowdy fly rather then walk to Andrews.


35 posted on 05/10/2014 8:33:55 PM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: Bryan24; MeshugeMikey; LucyT; All

Uh, maybe some surplus tanks could be retro-fitted to serve as taxis for Obama?

Obama promised to study War no More, and thus be as Uppity as Hitler was.

Of course, since Hitler had limos with 1.5 inch thick glass windows.

The Democrat’s current Uppity POS will have to have his tank-top viewing bubble thicker and fancier than Hitler’s Limo windows.

Maybe Corning Glass Co. could be Nationalized to take on this as a “Green” Bubble Project?

My guess is that Democrat’s Main Intellectual, Ex-Speaker Nancy Pelosi, will be able to “encourage” Speaker Boehner to keep on coddling Obama by continuing to shower Obama with unlimited amounts taxpayer dollars.

BTW, did the “purse” in that ignored expression”The US House shall have the power of the purse strings - - “ go with Ex-Speaker Nancy Pelosi when Boehner replaced her as Speaker?


36 posted on 05/10/2014 8:37:15 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Pride in the USA; Stillwaters
WHAT???


37 posted on 05/10/2014 8:43:36 PM PDT by lonevoice (We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality)
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To: Graewoulf
Nearly everybody's afraid of Obama...and tha aint no racess hoo ha!!

Thats why he gets his way. His MOB has got meaningless stuff on nearly ALL of em...and those on which he hasnt got any goods...can have goods planted on their computers....!

BENGHAZI gors right to the top of the chain.....and thats about the only way we can stop this profligaye spending by BUSTING OBIE


38 posted on 05/10/2014 8:47:58 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; greyfoxx39

The choppers aren’t for him. He’ll be long gone by the time they’re ready.


39 posted on 05/10/2014 8:49:34 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45
The choppers aren’t for him. He’ll be long gone by the time they’re ready.

At least you hope so, right?

40 posted on 05/10/2014 8:52:45 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Colorado Doug
That would have bought almost fifty F-22s, but he killed that program.

(A) I'd rather have the F-22s…
(B) Remember that it was McCain [et al] who really pushed killing the F-22!

41 posted on 05/10/2014 8:57:22 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

His “private” fleet?

I don’t think I would use that term


42 posted on 05/10/2014 9:00:55 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Just what would Uppity Obie look like waving to adoring fellow Democrat travelers from inside his Green Bubble Tank Top?

Rumor has it that only a tank with a green bubble top has the right of way on all the roads of his Obamanation.

BTW, would the stylish flecks of gray on his nappy head turn green under the Green Tank Top Bubble?

That would make even Hitler green with envy!


43 posted on 05/10/2014 9:06:06 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf
Revrunt Al wants a word with you...er two words/





weve known for YEARS what a Drama Queen he was but have never seen him in his royal garb until tonight..
44 posted on 05/10/2014 9:08:46 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

$20b is insane, aren’t helicopters cost around $10m/ea


45 posted on 05/10/2014 9:10:38 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: GeronL

> His “private” fleet?
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> I don’t think I would use that term

The comment was more on the value of F-22s vs. that of these fancy-choppers... and indirectly showing how I perceive the elite to prioritize: the F-22s would have protected the people, these choppers are essentially the airborne equivalent of armored-car/luxury-car hybrids and would protect the elite.


46 posted on 05/10/2014 9:29:37 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Graewoulf
WHen it comes to military hardware I picture Obie as more the aviation type...


47 posted on 05/10/2014 9:31:30 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

my most fervent prayer is that He just ends obama. any way is acceptable. impeachment, cancer, natural disaster, sinkhole, errant golf ball to the temple, biden causing him a stroke, whatever.


48 posted on 05/10/2014 9:43:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

2009: Obama said the helicopter was perfectly adequate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/24/us/politics/24chopper.html?_r=0


49 posted on 05/10/2014 9:56:38 PM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And to think ... the Democrats excoriated Nancy Reagan for ordering new White House china back in the day. For a heck of a lot less money.


50 posted on 05/10/2014 10:00:10 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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