Skip to comments.Third case of MERS confirmed in Illinois resident
Posted on 05/17/2014 2:54:53 PM PDT by wtd
NY Daily News: Third case of MERS confirmed in Illinois resident
The unnamed resident tested positive for the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome after having contact with the first patient in Indiana, who contracted the virus while traveling in Saudi Arabia. The second case was reported in Florida, but is not linked to the other two
(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...
***** The first two cases of MERS involved health care workers who contracted the disease while in Saudi Arabia. Both also reportedly were in the US visiting family. Both used commercial modes of transit, potentially exposing many travelers. Given the reported incubation period . . .the next several days may become very interesting.
Now this isn’t good at all. Secondary transmission confirmed.
“The unnamed man reports good health after having close contact with the first patient on two occasions in Indiana, but did not seek medical attention following the discovery.
I wonder how many people this lamebrain infected since he decided not to seek medical attention.
No no no. No connection whatever. Don't you dare think that. Don't you dare say that.
Is MERS going to be the next 9/11?
Not good.......not good at all.
"Health officials now must track down fellow travelers who were around the newest case, and this time it will be more challenging: There were more flights involved.
He traveled on May 1 on flights
- from Jeddah, Saudi Arabia,
- first to London,
- then to Boston,
- then to Atlanta,
- and finally to Orlando.
He went to a hospital on May 8 and was placed in isolation. . .
- As early as the first flight, the latest case was suffering fever, chills and a slight cough *****vs.***** YahooNews May 16th"It took the patient more than a week before he sought help in an emergency department in Orlando, Florida. Once he arrived, he waited nearly 12 hours in the ER before staff recognized a MERS link and placed him in an isolation room. The patient DID NOT HAVE SIGNS OF a respiratory infection, NOT EVEN A COUGH.[ID:nL1N0O002W]"
- Note discrepancy
****fever, chills, slight cough on first flight vs. no signs of respiratory infection, not even a cough.*****
Who to believe?
CHICAGO (Reuters) - Scientists leading the fight against Middle East Respiratory Syndrome say the next critical front will be understanding how the virus behaves in people with milder infections, who may be spreading the illness without being aware they have it.
Establishing that may be critical to stopping the spread of MERS, which emerged in the Middle East in 2012 and has so far infected more than 500 patients in Saudi Arabia alone. It kills about 30 percent of those who are infected.
There may be “superspreaders”, like SARS.
Note: MERS involves both respiratory difficulties as well as gastric distress (vomit & diarrhea). There are certain cultures that either are not familiar with Western toilets, or manage to enforce dhimmitude to accomodate their preferences.
Over the last decade or so of reading of the cultural impact to Western nations,. . .toileting habits/preferences is just one of the unsavory & disturbing issues.
There are prior reports about the condition of local toilets because certain cultures would wash their feet in public restroom sinks . . .as well as stand on the toilet seat to squat to defecate/urinate.
Now consider the impact MERS adds to this mess.
Recall the second patient spent 4-8 hours in the hospital waiting area. As a health care worker, MERS was not suspected for the first 4 hours. MERS symptoms would have made it necessary to be near a public restroom while he was waiting -- how many MERS victims will be sharing public restrooms prior to diagnosis and medical isolation?
second case (indiana fellow) also took multiple modes of transportation to Munster Indiana (suburb of Chicago area). Patient number one left from Jeddah, Saudi. Patient number two left from Riyadh, Saudi.
(patient two) left Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, on April 24 and took two planes and a bus to travel back to Indiana via London and Chicago.
Quarantine Saudi Arabia.
This patient in Florida potentially infected 20 other hospital workers who are all in quarantine for 14 days...
I think two are known to be infected...
Did you see this...
Silently among us: Scientists worry about milder cases of MERS
It is becoming increasingly clear that people can be infected with MERS without developing severe respiratory disease, said Dr David Swerdlow, who heads the MERS response team at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
“You don’t have to be in the intensive care unit with pneumonia to have a case of MERS,” Swerdlow told Reuters. “We assume they are less infectious (to others), but we don’t know.”
“Asymptomatic carriers of diseases can represent a major route for a pathogen to spread,” said Dr Amesh Adalja of the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center.
“Just think of Typhoid Mary,” he said
Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.
The purpose of the Bring Out Your Dead ping list (formerly the Ebola ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.
So far the false positive rate is 100%.
At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the Bring Out Your Dead threads will miss the beginning entirely.
*sigh* Such is life, and death...
Yes, I saw that . . .see post #8
The MERS victims should be convinced by whatever means to go to Washington D.C. and meet with as many Senators, Congressmen and “Executives” as they can. Coughing and sneezing while visiting is to be encouraged. Amnesty granters should receive the consequences of their stupidity. They visited evils on us with their “let everybody in” now let them suffer. I no longer feel pity!
TORONTOA doctor who travelled to Canada after having contact with Floridas first MERS patient has tested negative for the virus, the Public Health Agency of Canada said yesterday. The unidentified man is being asked to stay in the country for several more days until officials feel confident he isnt infected with Middle East respiratory syndrome virus and that it is safe for him to travel.
It can take as long as 14-16 days to develop MERS disease and the negative testwhile a good signis not clear-cut proof he isnt coming down with the infection.
Thanks for the update...
The real question that needs to be asked is why Obama has not mentioned this, nor has he put any travel restrictions on Mid east MERS infected countries as far as entering the US.
Once again, he isn’t doing his job. I say it is because he wants Americans to contract the virus.
With the current administration’s intense case of Islamophilia - who is to say it hasn’t already happened?
"North America appears to have seen its first case of onward transmission of the MERS virus, with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention announcing Saturday that a contact of the first U.S. case has developed antibodies to the virus.
An unidentified man from Illinois, described as a business associate of the first U.S. case, appears to have been infected with the Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus, the CDC revealed during a hastily called news conference.
The two men met for between 30 and 40 minutes on April 25, and again briefly the next day. They reportedly shook hands during the meetings.
Officials at the World Health Organization and the CDC have stressed the MERS virus does not currently transmit easily from person to person. They have suggested that close and prolonged contact may be need to pass the virus from an infected person to one who is healthy.
When pressed to explain how transmission during a business meeting was consistent with that pattern, the CDC's point person for MERS virus, Dr. David Swerdlow, said the two men had face-to-face contact within a range of about two metres.
"We still don't think that this virus transmits easily, but it does transmit," Swerdlow said. "And that's why we've been concerned all along."
Swerdlow acknowledged that little is currently known about how the MERS virus is spread. Questions remain about who is likely to transmit virus only severe cases or mild infections too? and when during an infection a person can transmit the virus.
Still, he suggested this case hasn't led the CDC to rethink its ideas about the risk of MERS virus transmission
Can you clarify the
"surprised they haven't made them take the MIDDLE EAST out the name"relation to this topic? I am assuming the removal of the term 'gay-related' is as politically charged as the identity "Middle East"?
This is a non story. The guy has not needed ANY medical treatment (in the story). Truth is this is not a virus of concern IF you live in a modern medical nation. ALL of the those who are in the US have been treated (where needed) and are doing fine.
This is only deadly if you live in some third world dump like Saudia Arabia or any where else in arab land
"NEW YORK (AP) - Health officials reported Saturday what appears to be the first time that a mysterious Middle East virus has spread from one person to another in the United States. The Illinois man probably picked up an infection from an Indiana man who earlier this month became the first U.S. case of Middle East respiratory syndrome, or MERS. The Illinois man, however, never needed medical treatment and is reported to be feeling well, officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said. The two men met twice before the Indiana man fell ill and was hospitalized in Munster, Indiana, shortly after traveling from Saudi Arabia, where he lived and was employed as a health care worker. Health officials say they think the virus spread during a 40-minute business meeting that involved no more contact than a handshake. "We don't think this changes the risk to the general public," which remains low, said Dr. David Swerdlow of the CDC. The new report also is not considered evidence that the virus is spreading more easily among people than previously thought, he said. The virus is not considered to be highly contagious, and health officials believe it only spreads from person to person with close contact. Many of those who have gotten sick in the Middle East have been family members or health care workers caring for a MERS patient. The CDC said tests completed Friday provided evidence that the Illinois man had an infection at some point. Since the first man's diagnosis, health officials have been monitoring and testing anyone who was in close contact with him, including health care workers and household members, but none of the rest of them has tested positive for the virus. A second U.S. illness was confirmed last week in a 44-year-old man from Saudi Arabia who was visiting Florida.[excerpt]
The highlighted statement at the end confirms the title in this link is incorrect...should read
". . .but
2nd3rd man not sick
I hope you are right. None-the-less, it appears there is concern enough given:
"CBS Video The outbreak turns into a nationwide alert as the government rushes to find hundreds of people who may have been exposed to the deadly virus. ...All that, and all that matters, in today's "Eye Opener." Your world in 90 seconds."Also note that other nations including
Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, the Netherlands and the UAE as well as the USA have recorded cases, mostly in people who had been to the desert kingdom.LINK
"Infection's spread is still limited, although cases have nearly tripled in past two months."
Of particular note which aligns with you last statement:
"This is only deadly if you live in some third world dump like Saudia Arabia or any where else in arab land"-Nifster
And that would be this quote via YahooNews :
"Only one medical facility in Mecca the King Abdullah Medical City is equipped to handle MERS cases, according to Ismail Mohammed, the director-general of another hospital in the city, Umm Al Qura."
I say it is because he wants Americans to contract the virus.
Well, yeah, the panic induced by the fear of a plague could get people to fall in line and do what they are told by the authorities in order to keep themselves and their families safe. Do we have martial law on the horizon?
"The newly reported patient actually tested negative for an active MERS infection on May 5, but a follow up blood sample tested on May 16 found that he had antibodies to the virus, suggesting he had been infected with the disease."via UK Daily Mail
The only cases that the US has seen are two from Saudia Arabia. This third was someone in close contact with the Indiana visitor. There should be more concern for the growing number of measles cases that are occurring amongst the Amish in Ohio because they have been exposed by Filipinos coming to the US infected.
Just because CBS says something is important does not make it so.
The Florida case is doing fine. The Indiana case is doing fine. The third case in Indiana has not needed ANY medical treatment. My point is the valid one. The easiest way to end the transmission is to prohibit anyone from Saudia Arabia traveling to the US. Period. You end the spread of disease by limiting its transmission.
Your concern is silly. Take a look at the nations where deaths have occurred....they are all in the middle east. Countries with modern medicine are not experiencing anything other than the usual media hype.....you do remember SARS don’t you????
And has had NO medical treatment....in other words he was able to ward off any of this so called ‘major’ disease. The hype that the media is giving this is stupid.
The solution is simple.... prohibit travel to the US by anyone from the middle east until this is tamped down. End of story.
We all remember SARS don’t we????
Hat tip to Steve86 and Rushmore Rocks for the heads-up!
I am so screwed.
Question remains, where does the red line in the sand exist - how many deaths before the subject of quarantine/prohibition of travel to/from particularly Saudi Arabia (& all MERS affected countries) is discussed?
Your concern is silly.-Nifster
Perhaps my concern is silly. Time will tell. However, it is clear not all MERS exposures result in active infection.
See post #8 . . .
Silently among us: Scientists worry about milder cases of MERS (non CBS source)
"CHICAGO (Reuters) - Scientists leading the fight against Middle East Respiratory Syndrome say the next critical front will be understanding how the virus behaves in people with milder infections, who may be spreading the illness without being aware they have it.
Establishing that may be critical to stopping the spread of MERS, which emerged in the Middle East in 2012 and has so far infected more than 500 patients in Saudi Arabia alone. It kills about 30 percent of those who are infected."
The third confirmed MERS infection in the US was asymptomatic. The only reason he became aware he was infected is because the authorities decided to follow up with a second test.
There just isn't enough known about MERS to dismiss all concern about the possible potential for this virus to spread further.
Perhaps MERS will resemble the outcome of SARS. Again, time will tell.
IOW, they’re muslims.
With an itinerary like that, he knew he was infected and DELIBERATELY chose flights that would expose him to the busiest airports around.
Wow you sure go from 0 to 60 for no good reason. You missed my entire point.
The ONLY deaths are those that are occurring in the third world dumps that have no modern medicine (frequently because it is against their muslim beliefs),
I have consistently said the way to ‘end’ this transmission is to ban travel from sandy land. This is not unlike SARS which did massive damage in Asia because of their lousy medical systems. Once travel was banned end of story. It may occur locally but does not get spread world wide
The fact (and it is a fact) that the cases which are treated in modern medical facilities out side of the louse hole that is sand land all do fine.
This is NOT a lethal disease for those who I’ve in a civilized country.
It is like decrying malaria....sure it kills folks in the third world. In places with clean water and mosquito control it does not.
Do not hold your breath or worry yourself. More importantly do not let the hype of the media fool you.
When I think of an Orlando case I just think of all the international travelers exposed and now going to their homes in countries all over the world.
There will be lots of travel during the 14 days before they are sick. At least enough to seek medical help!
I wonder if I am an alarmist or if it is a real possibility?
When I read that I wondered the same thing...Purposeful contamination?
Scary stuff. Very scary stuff.
There is probably a quick cure for all MERS cases...it is intravenous Vitamin C. The knowledge is there in a few in the medical community. IV-C cures a host of things, viral, bacterial, etc. It will cure bites from poisonous snakes and poisonous spiders. IV-C, and it is so good that a doctor 60 years ago cured 60 out of 60 cases of polio with intravenous vitamin C.
Why isn’t it being used now...in every hospital, in every doctor’s office, in this country and around the world?
Hey, they suicide bomb.
And this might not kill you but it could kill many others and at the very least, spread panic.
Cause there’s no money in it.
I think it’s a little insulting to say ‘your concern is silly”.
Concern is NEVER silly, panic for no reason can be silly, but never concern.
You are right of course...
Hi levels of oral vitamin C are tolerated when the body needs vitamin C. Maybe enough to deal with MERS. The body seems to know when it needs vitamin C. Animals that produce their own vitamin C see a surge in this production when needed to fight whatever might be going on in their bodies.
So why did he go to the ER then?