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Posted on 07/28/2014 3:06:40 PM PDT by ifinnegan
I don't care if a pro-Abortion Socialist takes a Senate seat in a normally conservative state.
I don't care that with Alison Grimes in the Senate there could be millions of more abortions around the world and nation wide than if she hadn't won
I don't care because Mitch McConnell is such a nasty guy who insulted me
Mitch must learn a lesson.
Let the babies die.
This thread on the KY Senate race inspired this question.
Is it a false scenario. I don't think so.
Are the die hards who want Grimes the abortion pusher to win not religious?
Is the sin of pride clouding their judgement in wanting the pro-Abortion leftist to be a Senator from KY?
The argument will be that Mitch is no better than Grimes, that just as many abortions happen with him as senator through his inactivity on the issue.
How is that argument backed up?
It’s actually an overt lie.
The honest truth is that I think on the issue of abortion I don’t think it makes much of a difference.
Having Mitch McConnell in the Senate didn’t prevent any of Clinton or Obama’s Supreme court nominations from becoming judges.
Can’t they both lose?
I want to know where the people who hated ‘Willard’ two years ago and if they are happy now. Same logic.
The attitude is that McConnell is a self-avowed enemy of the TEA Party. I don’t “want Grimes to win” and neither would I ever voice any support whatsoever for McConnell.
If I lived in that state I would have no dog in that fight.
Biting off the nose to spite one’s face. RINO’s should be dealt with in the Primary. If we’re not successful, handing the seat to a Democrat who will help Zero in his agenda is a terrible mistake.
Mitch McConnell is better than a true leftist Democrat, & we can try to take him out again in another two years.
>> we can try to take him out again in another two years.
How exactly do you propose we do that?
Senate terms are 6 years.
But it is Six years for the Senate.
It will be a lot easier for a Conservative to take this Senate seat in 2020 if Grimes s not in it.
There is short term feel goodism - ie ha ha Mitch lost — and there is real seriousness planning and working.
Did David, during his war with Saul, go and work for the king of the Philistines? No, he went into the wilderness until he could come to grips with what needed to be done.
Wait... no. David did go work for the king of the Philistines.
And Daniel served in the Babylonian and Persian courts.
And Joseph set an extremely punitive tax on the people of Egypt.
And Gideon and his family turned to idolatry after he drove the Philistines from the land.
What does this have to do with abortion? Nothing.
And neither does the fact that the traitors to conservatism in the Republican party need to be cut out like the cancerous growths they are. We need some salt in the wounds and a burning ember to clean out the infection.
Grimes in the Senate would be bad, but not as bad as leaving McConnell there. And I was a big fan of Mitch up until the last couple of years. I defended him on this board. But there have been too many betrayals. He can’t be trusted and needs to go.
Succinctly and aptly put. A lot of Rino Panty-Wadders here lately.
The budget and where money goes provides for and causes more abortions.
McConnell, RINO as he is, has never supported abortion spending bills or been pro-choice.
But unless you care nothing about unborn life, or any other issue, you do have a dog in the fight.
You sound like Pontius Pilot.
I wish we didn’t have to have dogs in the fight because it is a dirty fight.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
I don’t care
for this thread.
Okay, is there another candidate I don’t know about?
I appreciate you clearly and openly calling for the liberal leftist pro-Abortion Democrat to win.
Now questions for you.
1) Are you pro-choice?
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Now you answer a question for me. Would you give command Benedict Arnold after he surrendered West Point because he had the best military record? Or would you not trust the traitor?
“we’d be on the same track we are now, just moving at a slower pace”
“Load the magazines, boys...it won’t be long now.”
Nothing personal, but are you delusional?
Do you think this is an action movie?
He has also never voted against a pro-abortion SCOTUS nominee or voted against a budget that funded Planned Parenthood.
I see you are getting pummeled on two threads now.
McConnell made his bed. He decided to eliminate his intraparty rival through the most disgusting of lies. He now has to lie in that bed. If he offended enough Conservative Republicans that he loses his seat. He deserves it!
BTW. I don’t live in KY I live in OH. I already have a turn coat RINO to deal with in the milk toast Rob Portman. He is now a gay marriage lover because his son is a homosexual.
You are good at demagoguery.
But your argument falls apart when you support someone who would do more than accept a budget that gives money to Planned Parenthood but would actually increase it and add budget that directly paid for abortions.
Are you pro-choice?
Yes or no.
Sorry, I was thinking House, not Senate.
On the other hand, what are Kentucky’s rules for a recall?
Precisely. Abortion is receding in this country, no thanks at all to Repukes at the federal level, and certainly not thanks to Mighty Mouse Mitch
I learned this the hard way in 1992. I did not want to vote fir Michael Huffington. I was right. He and his wife were conservative, supposedly, at the time. I didn’t like him. I was right. His wife went on to do what we all know and he went in to become openly homosexual.
They were not worth supporting, i could tell So I did not vote for him.
But I should have.
If she had lost she would not have had her horribly damaging to the USA career.
If Huffington had won, he would have not lasted.
This is a warning. Do not let pride overcome you so that you make decisions that are worse in the long run.
Are you aware that Mitch McConnell may have cost us the Senate seat in Mississippi because he funneled money to the PAC that launched those Chris McDaniel is a RACIST!!!! ads?
So if Mitch Costs us that Senate seat in Mississippi (and they are supposedly running similar "RACIST!!!!" ads in Georgia) do you not think there ought to be a price to pay?
And beyond just retaliation, don't you think that a message needs to be sent to others that these tactics will cause you to LOSE your own seat?
What does that matter to the argument. As I have shown, the Republicans do little more than pay lip service to the Pro-Lifers. It is only because the alternative is so much worse that we are forced to vote Republican.
In this instance, even with McConnell going down it looks like the Republicans will take the Senate, and by a comfortable margin.
‘Democrats could also pick up Republican seats in Georgia and Kentucky, the Journal reported.’
The answer though isn’t to support an even more liberal candidate, like these boys in KY do.
The answer is to primary them out.
They failed in KY and are trying to take their failure out on everyone else.
What is your line? What level of betrayal will it take for a Republican to lose your vote?
I won’t vote in favor of someone who considers me his enemy and I do not vote for leftists at all.
It’s one Senate seat. We’ll win some and lose some. This is one I case little about because the guy in it puts his power and those of his lobbyists above the voters.
“Now you answer a question for me. Would you give command Benedict Arnold after he surrendered West Point because he had the best military record? Or would you not trust the traitor?”
But your analogy has you giving a RedCoat command. I wouldn’t do that either, but you want to put the Red Coat Grimes in office.
Are you pro-life.
Again, tell me how many of Obama's appointees he voted against. If he voted for Obama's Judicial picks (and I believe he did) then he voted for Abortion.
There is the thing. If a crappy candidate wins the primary, we are under no obligation to support Mr. Crappy in November.
“Its one Senate seat. Well win some and lose some. This is one I case little about because the guy in it puts his power and those of his lobbyists above the voters.”
Actually, they all do that.
Maybe not Ted Cruz.
I think we all get it, you’re a one issue voter. But each time McConnell votes for cloture to fund Obamacare, how many abortions is he preventing?
Also, if the Republicans do take the Senate winning 10 or more seats, Joe Mansion will probably jump parties. He had to run hard against Obama to win in West Virginia in the first place.
So. If there was ever a time to send a message, it would be now. Kentucky can always get rid of her in 2018. She will be a prime target.
As I said. It is irrelevant as I can not vote in KY.
It’s interesting how you change the subject.
Are you pro-life?
Do you believe in God?
So Washington should not have evacuated Manhatten? He should never have given the Red Coats command of New York?
Sometimes you surrender ground in order to fight from a better position.
If McConnell wins, nothing changes.
If McConnell loses, then the Tea Party adherents scare the crap out of the Republicans.
The Republicans, some of them at least, will realize that they cannot betray conservatives over and over and over again and still expect them to vote because “the other guy is worse”.
You are so used to being slapped around and misused that you don’t even realize you are a battered wife.
It's the same subject, and you are deliberately avoiding it. Mitch McConnell voting to confirm Obama's Judicial appointees is furthering the cause of Abortion on demand.
You may not like it, but your buddy Mitch is at least as bad as the enemy, and because he deliberately turned his fire on his own base, in my opinion he is worse.
Mitch McConnel shot us. It is not about pride, it is about the fact he attempted to kill us and will try to do so again if he retains power.
And as far as I know, everybody on this site is Pro-Life and Believes in God, Myself included.
Typical that you go for the emotional imagery.
Battered wife. It’s imagery and argument that also appeals to ego and pride.
Your pride is hurt because you were beat by Mitch McConnell.
Therefore to he’ll with everyone else?
Your selfishness knows no bounds.
Grimes is not good no matter how you argue for her.
I ask about your personal convictions because it is important in seeing where you come from.
I get a strong amount of antiChristian scent from those who see the RINO as worse than the worst of the Molech worshipping Dems.
You are not a Christian, are you?
Which of these two expressed a wish to punch TEA partiers in the face?
1. Alison L. Grimes
2. Mitch McConnell
Thanks for stating you are pro-life and believe in God.
I assume that means Christian.
My question is why do you support Grimes who is a Molech worshipper.
Don’t say Mitch is just as bad.
I would have to question your intelligence and discernment if you truly believed that.
“Which of these two expressed a wish to punch TEA partiers in the face?
1. Alison L. Grimes
2. Mitch McConnell”
Are you seriously trying to say that therefore Grimes is more in line with Tea Party ideals?
Your post perfectly proves the point that this is about pride, pettiness and vindictiveness, not about what is best for the USA.
Don’t put words in my writing.
I’m making the point McConnell is a compromised douchebag who has a mountain to climb before he ever wins back the trust and support of conservatives.
“The Cantor’s need to die off”
Yes. And Conservatives have to take their place
This thread Is is about people here who want to replace the Cantors and McConnell’s with Boxers and Feinsteins
I doubt you support that?