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'Oldest' Koran Fragments Found in Birmingham University
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| 22 July 2015
| Sean Coughlan
Posted on 07/22/2015 1:16:50 PM PDT by nickcarraway
What may be the world's oldest fragments of the Koran have been found by the University of Birmingham.
Radiocarbon dating found the manuscript to be at least 1,370 years old, making it among the earliest in existence.
The pages of the Muslim holy text had remained unrecognised in the university library for almost a century.
The British Library's expert on such manuscripts, Dr Muhammad Isa Waley, said this "exciting discovery" would make Muslims "rejoice".
The manuscript had been kept with a collection of other Middle Eastern books and documents, without being identified as one of the oldest fragments of the Koran in the world.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: birmingham; birminghamkoran; cancerofislam; epigraphyandlanguage; faithandphilosophy; godsgravesglyphs; islam; islamiccancer; koran; mohammed; moslems; muhammad; muslims; radiocarbon; radiocarbondating; rcdating; religionofpieces; rop; unitedkingdom; waronterror
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To: shibumi
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07/22/2015 1:44:32 PM PDT
by
JoeProBono
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To: nickcarraway
I hope it’s printed on soft paper.
To: nickcarraway
These tests provide a range of dates, showing that, with a probability of more than 95%, the parchment was from between 568 and 645.
Missed this on my first read-through. It might be that old, but there is a difference between the parchment and the writing on the parchment. The article talks about how poor the community was, etc. It was a common practice when using parchment to scrape old parchments clean when in need of writing material. No indication whether they tested the age of the ink.
To: JoeProBono
What’s that little inset at the bottom. It looks like somebody trying to bugger a dolphin.
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07/22/2015 1:46:53 PM PDT
by
NorthMountain
("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
To: b4its2late
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07/22/2015 1:46:59 PM PDT
by
shibumi
("Cover it with gas and set it on fire.")
To: nickcarraway
Professor David Thomas said-
"The person who actually wrote it could well have known the Prophet Muhammad. He would have seen him probably, he would maybe have heard him preach. He may have known him personally - and that really is quite a thought to conjure with," he says. Wow, there is an awful lot of conjecture and unfalsifiable speculation in that quote.
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07/22/2015 1:48:29 PM PDT
by
Slainte
To: nickcarraway
Compost them with pig manure.
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posted on
07/22/2015 1:50:18 PM PDT
by
TigersEye
(This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
To: nickcarraway; All
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posted on
07/22/2015 1:55:48 PM PDT
by
musicman
(Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
To: nickcarraway
Seriously (seriously, people) this is the kind of thing that could potentially be destabilizing to Islam. As I rememeber it, the third Caliph (Uthman) ordered the collection and canonization of the Koran maybe 25 years after Muhammad's death, and then ordered all other extant collections, manuscripts or fragments destroyed.
The existence of a variant text would be deeply unsettling to the Muslim community --- which is (obviously) not very unified to begin with.
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posted on
07/22/2015 2:55:02 PM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
(The fundamental things apply, as time goes by.)
To: nickcarraway
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posted on
07/22/2015 4:28:29 PM PDT
by
vpintheak
(Call the left what they are - regressive control-freaks)
To: NorthMountain
It’s the dolphin that is doing the buggering.
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posted on
07/23/2015 12:53:00 PM PDT
by
SpinnerWebb
(Winter is coming)
To: JoeProBono
What the heck is this picture? Is that a dragon in the sky?
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posted on
07/23/2015 12:59:21 PM PDT
by
3boysdad
(The very elect.)
Note: this topic is from 07/22/2015 . Thanks nickcarraway.
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12/24/2015 8:00:22 PM PST
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SunkenCiv
(Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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