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Jim Messina: Obama Insider To Help Social Democrats Challenge Merkel (fixing German elections)
Der Spiegel ^ | September 04, 2015 – 01:13 AM | Veit Medick

Posted on 09/04/2015 9:27:20 PM PDT by Olog-hai

If you ask around about Jim Messina in Washington, you will get an extremely wide range of reactions. Some believe he is brilliant; others think he’s ruthless. But there is one impression that everyone seems to share: “Jim is not afraid of anyone.”

That isn’t a bad prerequisite for Messina’s next job. The 45-year-old Democrat, who organized Barack Obama’s 2012 re-election campaign and this year orchestrated British Prime Minister David Cameron’s spectacular, nail-biting win, is now getting into German politics. Messina has agreed to a consulting job in Berlin: He wants to help the center-left Social Democratic Party (SPD) beat Chancellor Angela Merkel of the conservative Christian Democrats in the next national election in 2017. […]

The new job will likely be highly challenging to Messina for a number of reasons. In Washington, DC and London, he campaigned for incumbents; in Berlin he will work for a party that very few believe has a shot at the chancellorship in 2017. Merkel, in her 10th year as chancellor, is extremely popular, and her party is polling at around 40 percent. […]

Messina’s appearance in Berlin is also risky on a personal level. Germany is not comparable with the US when it comes to electoral campaigns—it doesn’t have the same data, money or room for maneuver. “His reputation is hanging in the balance: Messina has never lost an election,” said a close acquaintance. …

(Excerpt) Read more at spiegel.de ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Politics/Elections; US: Idaho; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: davidcameron; europeanunion; eussr; germany; idaho; jimmessina; merkel; obama; socialdemocrats; spd; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 09/04/2015 9:27:20 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

The commies and fags are all over the globe these days. The End Days?


2 posted on 09/04/2015 9:29:51 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Cecil the Lion says, Stop the Slaughter of the Baby Humans!!!)
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To: Olog-hai

Will he get Kenny Loggins to help him?


3 posted on 09/04/2015 9:30:31 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Olog-hai

You misspelled “Disease” in the title as “Democrat”.


4 posted on 09/04/2015 9:32:06 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: Olog-hai

Don’t any of these stupid countries want to keep foreign influence out of their affairs? I’m so done with all this.


5 posted on 09/04/2015 9:36:39 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: Olog-hai

That’s odd, he’s highly regarded in Montana


6 posted on 09/04/2015 9:40:51 PM PDT by This_far
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The start of.


7 posted on 09/04/2015 9:45:06 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Olog-hai

Having lived in Germany for twenty-odd years (off and on), it’s a fairly humorous article. Messina shows up and thinks he has ‘magic’ to change a German manufactured election system? This is like Timothy Geithner showing up and saying he wants the Germans to shift to the US model of economics for success (Germans just laugh about Timothy’s strategy). The same is true for Bill Gates coming in and telling Germans how to run their university system (they laughed over his advice too). They even gave Hillary Clinton a long-standing platform to talk about world affairs, and now the Germans mostly admit she has a very limited knowledge of whatever she was talking about.

It’s reached a point in the last five years in Germany where they are skeptical of just about any American who arrives and wants a ‘piece of the action’. Messina will get some invitations to parties....sip some wine with SPD members...and get some minor attention. Other than that....he’s a non-player, and will be regarded as such.

I should add...right now, the SPD is in the lowest position of the past forty years. The biggest reason is that Chancellor Merkel has adapted to the top dozen causes of the old SPD....she’s anti-nuke-power and pro-immigration. The CDU is marginally different from the SPD today.

If you were going to pick a major topic to hurt all of the top six political parties in Germany....it’s refugees and immigration. All of the six stand for an open-door policy and I would take a guess that somewhere between twenty-five to forty percent of the public is very much anti-refugee/immigrant. If any party (even a minor party) came out and was totally anti-refugee...they’d all side with that party and the next election (fall of 2017) would really shift over.

Messina just wants some SPD idiots to sign a check or two and he’d do an Americanization of some political folks and hype up their chances. German politics doesn’t work that way. The party apparatus works totally different in Germany and I doubt if he grasps that angle.


8 posted on 09/04/2015 9:46:26 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

Thanks for your analysis and first hand perspective.

Do you think the German press will cover this and let it be known what is really going on with Messina?


9 posted on 09/04/2015 9:53:44 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Olog-hai

“Jim is not afraid of anyone.”

Like his boss and most Democrats, he’s not afraid of hard work either: Jim can lay down next to work and go right to sleep.
I’m sure his socialist work ethic will impress his paymasters, if not Germans.
“From each, according to the size of their strudel; to each, according to their willingness to swear a blood oath to the national socialist democratic workers party. Sieg, sieg ...”


10 posted on 09/04/2015 9:54:02 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Olog-hai

Aren’t Obama cronies 0 for in overseas elections?


11 posted on 09/04/2015 10:13:01 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Dunno; Messina’s taking credit for Cameron’s big win in the UK. Axelrod fell on his face trying to boost Labour.


12 posted on 09/04/2015 10:17:26 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Messina was helping Cameron? I just knew Axelrod was helping labour. Did one of them lose in Israel too?


13 posted on 09/04/2015 10:19:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

The V15 (or Victory 15) movement in Israel was linked to OneVoice (once known as PeaceWorks), a nonprofit linked to Obama cronies, who got a donation of about $350K from the State Department. And they did fail to stop Netanyahu getting back in.


14 posted on 09/04/2015 10:28:02 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: laplata

Spiegel told the story. It might get picked up by the state-run news media and just mentioned as a side-note. Otherwise, Messina will quietly run in the background for all of 2016.

I should note, there are five state elections in Germany for 2016. What the SPD may do....in hopes of getting some Messina magic working early....is use his talents in the five state elections. That would be an early indicator that it’s successful and worth the cost. I’m guessing that Messina is charging a heck of a lot....and the SPD leadership expects some plus-ups during the 2016 state election period. If nothing changes...they would likely dump him and save the cost. German political parties don’t have hundreds of millions at their disposal.

Once you get to the summer period of 2017 and the national election campaign underway....his name might get brought up and people ask about the differences in 2017 compared to years previous.

Here’s the negative slant though....if the SPD fails and Germans get a really sour taste in their mouth over the Americanization of their politics....they will only go to one other party....the Linke Party (the former Communists Party of DDR). Presently, the Linke Party has around sixteen percent of the national vote. If the SPD screws up....I could easily see the Linke Party going up to around twenty-five percent of the German vote....maybe even thirty-percent. If’s a big risk to chase away your voters....into the arms of the Linke Party.


15 posted on 09/04/2015 10:41:31 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Olog-hai

Obama’s agents haven’t done well in international elections...Netanyahu won; Cameron won and the muslim bro’s lost in Egypt


16 posted on 09/04/2015 11:33:00 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: RginTN

Cameron had Messina on his team. David Axelrod was working for Labour.


17 posted on 09/04/2015 11:49:41 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: nathanbedford

*PING*.

Would welcome your comments, please.


18 posted on 09/04/2015 11:51:11 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Olog-hai
The 45-year-old Democrat, who organized Barack Obama’s 2012 re-election campaign and this year orchestrated British Prime Minister David Cameron’s spectacular, nail-biting win, is now getting into German politics. Messina has agreed to a consulting job in Berlin: He wants to help the center-left Social Democratic Party (SPD) beat Chancellor Angela Merkel of the conservative Christian Democrats in the next national election in 2017.
Thanks Olog-hai.
19 posted on 09/05/2015 12:22:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW)
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To: dfwgator
Will he get Kenny Loggins to help him?

Yeah the name caused a what the heck moment for me also. Till I read his age.

"Open the door longhair"

LOL

20 posted on 09/05/2015 12:33:59 AM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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