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Cruz takes the gloves off, attacking Rubio on immigration
Washington Post ^ | Nov 12 2015 | Katie Zezima and David Weigel

Posted on 11/12/2015 5:16:43 PM PST by WilliamIII

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), who has spent the past few weeks taking oblique swipes at Senate colleague and presidential campaign rival Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), took a direct swing at him Thursday in a clash that signaled a newly bitter fight between the two rising candidates — and illustrated the GOP field’s contentious fault lines on immigration policy.

Cruz blasted Rubio for his support of a failed immigration reform bill that would have granted a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants, telling conservative radio host Laura Ingraham that Rubio had opposed adding provisions to the bill that would have strengthened border security

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; cruz; elections; florida; rubio; trump; trumpwasright
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Okay, that was Cruz in 2013.

Here's Trump in 2012 talking about Romney.

Link

41 posted on 11/12/2015 6:24:36 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: SmokingJoe
Cruz is riding Trump's coattails like Trump's support for Obama’s unconstitutional, illegal “Dream Act”?

Trump never supported the Dream Act.

Who has led the fight against Obama’s unconstitutaional, illegal acts? Ted Cruz.

See Cruz on Fast Track, the Corker bill, and his still UNCHANGED position from 2013 on immigration. Cruz is not as big on the Constitution as he claims he is.

42 posted on 11/12/2015 6:24:52 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: HoosierWordsmith

Well that would explain his ‘Cruz did it too’ shtick.


43 posted on 11/12/2015 6:25:41 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

How much does Trump pay you?


44 posted on 11/12/2015 6:26:10 PM PST by right way right (May we remain sober over mere men, for God really is our one and only true hope.)
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To: WilliamIII

Ted Cruz in 2013 on providing Legal status to Illegals:

https://youtu.be/4CwVrfydjOI

Does this then mean Cruz is for a form of amnesty by providing Legal Status to Illegals? Watch the video and you be the judge.


45 posted on 11/12/2015 6:28:44 PM PST by entropy12 (DEPORT ALL ILLEGALS or it is Amnesty! Only Trump has no rich donors pushing for cheap labor express)
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To: FreeReign
Okay, that was Cruz in 2013.

"The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight," he said during a recent visit to El Paso. Mr. Cruz also noted that he had not called for deportation or, as Mitt Romney famously advocated, self-deportation."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/13/us/cruz-tries-to-claim-the-middle-ground-on-immigration.html?_r=1

Unlike Trump, Cruz has NOT changed position. Cruz STILL defines amnesty as "a pathway to citizenship." He does not consider granting legal status to be amnesty. Cruz as of July refused to say he would deport anyone, stating that there would be a "conversation" about what to do about the people already here AFTER he is elected.

46 posted on 11/12/2015 6:29:20 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: conservativejoy

Has Cruz said that was the purpose of the amendment? I haven’t heard that.


47 posted on 11/12/2015 6:29:57 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: conservativejoy

Has Cruz said that was the purpose of the amendment? I haven’t heard that.


48 posted on 11/12/2015 6:30:37 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I LOVE JESUS CHRIST because He first loved me!)
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To: Stepan12

Just my personal opinion, but I never appreciated Bachmann running for President. We will never know, but I still think there was a chance that Sarah Palin might have run if she had not gotten in to muddy the waters.

While the MSM eventually pretty quickly turned on Bachmann, initially the MSM embraced her and said in unison this means Palin cant run.

Of Course she Palin could still have run, Bachmann was a major lightweight compared to Palin, but the MSM loved that Bachmann ran only because they felt it helped keep Palin out of the race.

I only saw Bachmann as a spoiler for Palin, Bachmann was a lightweight and had less than zero chance, Palin on the other hand could have won.

Before anybody slams me to hard, Michelle Bachmann said something just in the past 2 weeks that I really liked. She is right on a lot of issues, her constant talk that she was the mother of 20 or something like that came across very phony to me., that`s the kind of thing that others could have said about her, but not herself. JMHO

I wish she had not run, I personally believe Sarah Palin still might have run had Michelle not gotten in for the MSM Palin haters


49 posted on 11/12/2015 6:31:17 PM PST by Chauncey Uppercrust (CRUZ/TRUMP 2016 OR BUST)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain
Yes. He also explains that amendment in this interview and his position on H1-B (He says no), Listen at about the 7:50 mark.

link to you tube

50 posted on 11/12/2015 6:33:59 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Ummmm....Dream Act and Trump:
Obama amnesty will covers 2.25 million illegal immigrants: CBO
m.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jan/15/obama-amnesty-will-cover-225-million-illegals-cbo

That Time Donald Trump Had A Meeting With DREAMers And Said “You Convinced Me” On Immigration

www.buzzfeed.com/adriancarrasquillo/that-time-donald-trump-had-a-meeting-with-dreamers-and-said#.uvYn2eJOw

51 posted on 11/12/2015 6:34:07 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: WilliamIII; All
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52 posted on 11/12/2015 6:34:26 PM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Chauncey Uppercrust

The only I voted for McWimp was because of Sarah Palin.


53 posted on 11/12/2015 6:35:29 PM PST by Stepan12 (Our present appeasementof Islam is the Stockholm Syndrome on steroids.)
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To: SmokingJoe
That Time Donald Trump Had A Meeting With DREAMers And Said “You Convinced Me” On Immigration

According to the Dreamers, not according to Trump.

54 posted on 11/12/2015 6:35:35 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: moehoward

“I prefer to think of it as Cruz is the tail and Trump is the kite.”

One thing is for sure, under their leadership this country would soar!


55 posted on 11/12/2015 6:36:08 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: entropy12
Does this then mean Cruz is for a form of amnesty by providing Legal Status to Illegals? Watch the video and you be the judge.

Does Trump endorse amnesty for illegals over-and-over again in 2015?

Link

56 posted on 11/12/2015 6:37:26 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I haven’t seen or heard Trump deny any of it. Now one thing everyone knows about Trump: He is not the shy, reticenct type. He is loud, abrasive and quick to hit back at the slightest slight. He’d have come out and denied it long ago if they were telling lies about the meeting.


57 posted on 11/12/2015 6:40:51 PM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Yes, you did not mention Fox...but you are unknowingly parroting the Baier leading hit piece on Cruz/support piece for El Nino Rubio tonight on Fox. Cruz has been emphatic...absolutely no citizenship for illegals...thus, no amnesty...secure the border above all else...but, the massive deportation question will be addressed later...not off the table...good policy, better politics! El Nino has supported the Gang of 8 amnesty...your boy Donald supports total deportation...arbitrary, I think not!


58 posted on 11/12/2015 6:46:44 PM PST by HoosierWordsmith
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To: scooby321
>>Rubio is and always been pro amnesty<<

I agree. Oh Marco screw the pooch getting tangled up with the likes of McCain.

I’mma Texan, Ted Cruz is my candidate. He’z the most conservative.

Trump's a blow hard, squeaky wheel. I'd vote for him if he’z the nominee, but I think he'll peter out.

59 posted on 11/12/2015 6:46:51 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: SmokingJoe
I haven’t seen or heard Trump deny any of it.

Because you are uninformed and are trying to change the topic from Cruz. The Dreamers admit that they 'crashed' the meeting, then claim that Trump "lied" to them, putting them at ease, only to refute them immediately after the Buzzfeed article. I've heard him explicitly on this issue deny their claims, saying he was "polite" to them, but that was the extent.

60 posted on 11/12/2015 6:47:48 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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