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The Electoral College could still stop Trump, even if he wins the popular vote
Washington Post ^ | March 17, 2016 | Derek T. Muller

Posted on 03/17/2016 12:58:03 PM PDT by detective

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To: detective

They said the same crap in 2000.


41 posted on 03/17/2016 1:19:31 PM PDT by henkster
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To: detective

Very interesting. So, they are conceding he is the nominee, and further conceding he will win the election.


42 posted on 03/17/2016 1:20:33 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: tophat9000

The commitment of which you speak never reached the threshold for implementation. Even had it reached that threshold, Congress would have had to approve such an interstate compact. Neither condition was reached.


43 posted on 03/17/2016 1:20:56 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: detective
Not so very long ago, the Washington Compost was dithering about eliminating the Electoral College.
44 posted on 03/17/2016 1:21:52 PM PDT by NorthMountain (A plague o' both your houses.)
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To: Teacher317

Let’s see now. Michigan, Florida, Virginia, North and South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Arkansas, and Nevada are hardly states I would call liberal. And who won those states? Well, it wasn’t Cruz was it? Yeah, your guy has won mostly in already red states like Idaho, Wyoming, Oklahoma, and his home state of Texas. States that even losers like McCain and Romney carried. In Ohio and Florida, states that are important in November, Cruz didn’t even get 20%. He’s a regional candidate at best and would get clobbered in November if by some miracle he was nominated.


45 posted on 03/17/2016 1:22:44 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Teacher317

Actually I do mention it, but not the way the tediban does.

I approach it this way; you have to win a certain number of purple states to win the general election. Has Teddy even made it to second place in OH or FL or VA? He hasn’t. So how pray tell does he win those same states in the general when his own party doesn’t even think he’s even worthy of second place?

He doesn’t. And that is why DT has a possible path to the white house while Teddy doesn’t.


46 posted on 03/17/2016 1:22:54 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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To: Teacher317

“Curious, isn’t it, that the most conservative states so far (TX, OK, WY, ID) have all gone to Cruz, and all of the most liberal have been Trump’s biggest totals (MASS was his high mark at 49.3%)... and Trump supporters do not mention this one bit.”

South Carolina is not liberal.
Georgia is not liberal.
Alabama is not liberal.
Mississippi is not liberal.
Louisiana is not liberal.
Arkansas is not liberal.
Kentucky is not liberal.

Your statement that Trump ONLY wins liberal states is demonstrably FALSE. Trump wins both liberal and conservative states.

Conversely, Cruz isn’t competitive in ANY non-conservative states.

I suggest you go to Mark Steyn’s site and read his article on the electoral college. Cruz is running the same strategy as W in 2000. That means he’ll have to win every state in what forms an L-shape running down the midwest and across the south. If he loses 1 state (it doesn’t matter which one) in the L-shape he can’t win the election.

It’s the political equivalent of making 10 the hard way—a longshot.


47 posted on 03/17/2016 1:23:18 PM PDT by Brookhaven
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To: detective

20 million PO’d voters could stop the electoral college.


48 posted on 03/17/2016 1:23:26 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: detective
The Electoral College could still stop Trump, even if he wins the popular vote

Especially if he gets less than 270 electoral votes.

49 posted on 03/17/2016 1:23:37 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: detective

Washington Post: It’s not Fascism when we do it.


50 posted on 03/17/2016 1:23:48 PM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Post #43. The liberals never got close to their goal.


51 posted on 03/17/2016 1:23:48 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: henkster

“They said the same crap in 2000.”

No, this is very different. They are recommending that even if Trump wins the popular vote in a state that the legislators award the electors to a different candidate.


52 posted on 03/17/2016 1:24:00 PM PDT by detective
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I think he wins the electoral easier then the popular votes.

You need to read the article. He is suggesting that the state legislatures take back the role of appointing the electors themselves, rather than use the popular vote, and then appoint electors who would vote for a 3rd candidate in the Electoral College, denying any of the candidates a majority. The election would then go to the House, with each state getting one vote. They can only choose among the top 3 electoral vote recipients. It is unorthodox, but would be constitutionally permissible. SCOTUS has already held that the state legislatures can choose whatever method they like to appoint the electors, and the federal courts have no say in the matter.

53 posted on 03/17/2016 1:24:00 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Madame Dufarge

Music? Why would they even say such a thing-it is desperate and insane-I crank up AC/DC and other angry metal and stuff on the stereo after work and jam all the way home-and I have yet to experience the irresistible urge to flip off a customer that didn’t take my bid, use my truck to run other drivers off the road, or participate in satanic rituals...


54 posted on 03/17/2016 1:24:21 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

They are increasingly like Gollum, who, between every few words, chokes “Stop Trump,” hack hack, “Stop Trump.”


55 posted on 03/17/2016 1:24:21 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Yo-Yo

They’re suggesting that even if Trump wins all fifty states that the electoral college give the victory to someone else.


56 posted on 03/17/2016 1:24:24 PM PDT by Ultima
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To: detective

Oh please WaPo.


57 posted on 03/17/2016 1:24:49 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: detective

But it is increasingly likely that we will reach precisely the kind of scenario that the founders worried about — divisive political discourse threatens to thrust a dangerous candidate into office who appears inclined to govern more like a monarch than a president.


Yep, we sure got that president in Obama.


58 posted on 03/17/2016 1:25:26 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: detective

Stuck in the Bargaining Stage. Acceptance eludes. This has been sublime, watching eggheads and gurus crapping their pants over the possibility of Trump becoming President.


59 posted on 03/17/2016 1:25:31 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Teacher317

“Most likely, but it ain’t over yet. If Kasich drops out, Cruz has a shot... but again, most likely, it is Trump”


Trump will get AZ and NJ, 109 delegates between them; he’ll get at least 70 delegates in NY. Just 3 states, and 179 delegates. Cruz is already at the point of needing to win something like 85% of the delegates to win on the first ballot, and taking those 179 off of the table makes it all but impossible. Oh, and if no one wins on the first ballot, then it won’t be Trump or Cruz, the GOPe will see to that - and then Hillary will win, as millions stay home.


60 posted on 03/17/2016 1:25:42 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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