Posted on 03/08/2017 6:39:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Joe Scarborough was shocked, shocked to hear yesterday that Democrats have no room for pro-life views from former DNC chair and governor Howard Dean, but … didn’t we already know this? Scarborough told Dean that former governor Steven Beshear — whom the DNC tapped to give a forgettable response to Donald Trump’s speech last week — harkened back to an era where Democrats used to win by sharing the values of voters in their regions, including pro-life and pro-gun positions. Dean responds by claiming ownership of the next generation (via Matt Vespa):
“No. Because the young generation isn’t that way. I think the old left/right is an anachronism. It exists in Washington. It exists in the media. Young people don’t think that way. They are not ideological. They are extremely interested in social justice, so we are never going back to maybe making compromises on abortion, and gay rights is another one,” he said.
First off, Democrats have kept making the “we have the young people” argument all through the last six-plus years after they have lost election after election and state after state. It would be easier to take that argument seriously if they could demonstrate where it has helped — or for that matter, if they didn’t cling to their septuagenarian leadership despite those losses. The election of Barack Obama was supposed to realign the political environment in favor of “the young generation,” but Democrats don’t trust them with leadership — and it’s not all that tough to imagine that they’ve noticed it.
Next, it’s amusing to hear Dean speak of “the old left/right” as an “anachronism” when Democrats have run their election strategies in every cycle over the last eight years based on that model. Hillary Clinton didn’t even bother to appeal to moderates and centrists in the last election; instead, she embraced progressivism to the extent of attacking the Hyde Amendment and pledging federal funding for abortions. Did that help with the “young generation”? Hillary won 18-29YOs 55/36, about the same proportion as Barack Obama did (60/37) while campaigning more to the middle four years earlier. More to the point, Democrats lost ground at every level of politics while staking out ground on the far left of the left/right “anachronism” and counting on “the young generation” to pull their chestnuts out of the fire.
One word of caution about relying on the younger set of voters. It’s true that those among them that vote tend to vote Democratic and support progressive causes, but a relatively low percentage of them vote at all. Many of them won’t get engaged in politics until later, when issues begin to hit home for them. One of those issues is abortion, and polling shows repeatedly that the “young generation” is more pro-life than previous generations. Having previous generations lock those voters out of the Democratic Party because they don’t see killing unborn children on the same level as equal rights for gays and lesbians, or as “social justice” at all, is a big, big problem for Democrats down the road, as Scarborough suggests.
Younger voters may not identify as much with ideology, as Dean says, but it’s clear that Democratic leadership does. And that may be why Democrats have become a party of coastal enclaves and Academia.
Ya know, I’m starting to come around on this abortion thing. I think that Howard Dean should have been aborted!
Yeah, get ‘em out! Yeah! Get ‘em out, mace ‘em, taser ‘em! Yehaaargghhh!
The Democrat Party as it is constituted now will become not just a ‘minority’ party, but THE party of minorities, exclusively: No whites, no Christians, no moderates, no middle class.....................
Many things that there is no room for in the ‘Rat party.
GlowBull Warming is another one.
A terrorist-free Israel is rapidly becoming another (as well as a terrorist-free USA).
No room for:
Pro-Lifers
Second Amendment supporters
White working class people
Inner city minorities who want a better life
Americans concerned about being blown up or getting their throats slit by Islamist terrorists
Americans who want to get out from the failed Obamacare
Americans who think they pay too much in taxes
Zionists
Americans who cherish Judaeo-Christian values.
QUITE A LIST Deane!!! Keep it up!!! More deplorables!!!!!
Always remember that in the final analysis a “pro choice” individual can never be trusted in any matter of importance. Any person that can mold their conscience to acquiesce to the unrestricted killing of preborn human life, is capable of any moral transgression. Once someone has identified themselves as “pro choice” or even admits to being a Democrat, its best to have only the most superficial relationship with that person and only if some sort of relationship is absolutely necessary.
How come it’s ok for Dems to stick to their convictions but if Republicans do it they’re right-wing extremists and will lose the precious moderate and independent voters?
Yup! And more power to ‘em!!
As governor of Vermont, Dean would appear on Canadian TV interviews almost weekly.
His bombast left the Canuks scratching their heads.
Suits me to a tee. I have no desire to be in the Democrat Party.
Say it again, Howard........ Yaaaarrrrrrggggghhhhhh!!!!!!
For a working class guy who was a Democrat in 1985...there’s virtually no connectivity today to the same party. It’s an amusing side of the story which ought to draw people to sit and discuss how this all occurred.
If there ever was a call for multiple parties....this basically is it.
The dem party has made a pact with the militant feminazis: we’ll give you your precious abortion if you’ll keep voting for us and ending us money.
A pact with the devil.
So... here’s an admission, a confession of sorts... and I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one that has a similar story...
When I was a kid in high school, I was a hardnose Democrat. I was totally against the first War in the Gulf and lead a protest at my school that ended up making the news (not because I knew anything about the facts of the war - I was completely ignorant - but I greatly enjoyed the media attention and loved that I was able to essentially get “a day off classes” for the entire school.
It wasn’t until I was probably about late-twenties/early-thirties that I started to develop a good worth ethic (better late than never, I know).
Once I started down that road, I started seeing just how much money came out of my paycheck in taxes to pay for other people’s bad choices.
I listened to my late uncle, who was a defense attorney that had very conservative views (surprising combo, but they are out there.) I also listened to Rush while I was at work every day, and a local gentleman named Bob Lonsberry who also ran a radio show espousing conservative viewpoints.
The point I’m getting at here is that I think it’s sort of normal for young people to be ignorant to the nuances of politics due to their youth and inexperience.
Young liberals grow up, and become conservatives.
My late uncle used to say, “if you are conservative and under 30, you have no heart. If you are liberal and over 30, you have no brain.”
Funny, God said there is no room in heaven for pro-choicers.
And Dean, there’s no place for you and your ilk in this country. GTFO of my country!!
Pro-Life and democrat are oxymoron’s.
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