Susan Rice implies that Trump and his aides were an imminent theat to the US

Flopping Aces ^ | 04-05-17 | DrJohn

[Starman417]

Susan Rice is a liar. We need to establish that as the baseline. She apparently unmasks the names of Americans caught up in surveillance matters, especially if their names rhyme with "bump."

Next, Andrew McCarthy (who knows a few things about this)

The thing to bear in mind is that the White House does not do investigations. Not criminal investigations, not intelligence investigations. Remember that.

And

In general, it is the FBI that conducts investigations that bear on American citizens suspected of committing crimes or of acting as agents of foreign powers. In the matter of alleged Russian meddling, the investigative camp also includes the CIA and the NSA. All three agencies conducted a probe and issued a joint report in January. That was after Obama, despite having previously acknowledged that the Russian activity was inconsequential, suddenly made a great show of ordering an inquiry and issuing sanctions.

Consequently, if unmasking was relevant to the Russia investigation, it would have been done by those three agencies. And if it had been critical to know the identities of Americans caught up in other foreign intelligence efforts, the agencies that collect the information and conduct investigations would have unmasked it. Because they are the agencies that collect and refine intelligence “products” for the rest of the “intelligence community,” they are responsible for any unmasking; and they do it under “minimization” standards that FBI Director James Comey, in recent congressional testimony, described as “obsessive” in their determination to protect the identities and privacy of Americans. Understand: There would have been no intelligence need for Susan Rice to ask for identities to be unmasked. If there had been a real need to reveal the identities — an intelligence need based on American interests — the unmasking would have been done by the investigating agencies.

So why would Rice need to unmask Americans identities if the other agencies did not? Let's go to Rice:

Let me explain how this works. I was the National Security Advisor. My job is to protect the American people and the security of our country. That's the same as the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, the CIA director. And every morning, to enable us to do that, we received from the intelligence community a compilation of intelligence reports that the IC, the intelligence community, has selected for us on a daily basis to give us the best information as to what's going on around the world.

She's a political appointee. A dishonest one at that. Someone needs to explain how her judgment is more finely honed than the NSA or the CIA. Neither agency found it necessary to unmask Trump, his family and his aides.

But she did.  And it had nothing to do with Russia. So what was the justification? Apparently she thinks Trump is going to bomb America:

But let's say there was a conversation between two foreigners about a conversation they were having with an American, who was proposing to sell to them high-tech bomb making equipment. Now, if that came to me as National Security Advisor, it would matter enormously. Is this some kook sitting in his living room communicating via the internet, offering to sell something he doesn't have? Or is it a serious person or company or entity with the ability to provide that technology perhaps to an adversary? That would be an example of a case where knowing who the U.S. person was, was necessary to assess the information.

So when that occurred, what I would do, or what any official would do, is to ask their briefer whether the intelligence committee would go through its process -- and there's a long-standing, established process -- to decide whether that information as to who the identity of the U.S. person was could be provided to me. So they'd take that question back, they'd put it through a process, and the intelligence community made the determination as to whether or not the identity of that American individual could be provided to me.

She is implying that Trump wanted to bomb the US or sell bomb technology to a foreign entity.

Heady stuff. Then she states:

[boxlunch]

Love that idea of the fireside chat, think I’ve mentioned that on FR before also. It really is a good idea for Trump to bypass the DMC and take his message directly to the people and on a regularly scheduled basis.

[Art in Idaho]

Yes, can't you see Trump relaxing, getting all folksy and talking a voice you can just barely hear? Just like he was in your living room. A guaranteed hit that would connect with all Americans - he would become Our President before long - people that never bothered to really listen to Trump and his platform, including many indies and dems, would see a different Trump than their DNC talking points, "Trump's a liar, he's against. . everthing, blah, blah." I really hope FOX gives it a try. Who's on at 7 Sunday now? 8 is fine too, but 7 better, after dinner, kids could watch, etc.

[Art in Idaho]

Just sent an email to the WH and cut and pasted the comments on the Fireside Chat idea. Also, 7 pm on Sundays, FOX, is Fox Report Weekend with Harris Faulkner. They could just put everything forward an hour. Harris at 8 and on with the schedule.

[rdcbn]

From reports , it seems that Trump Team members may have been in contact with Russian diplomats to discuss lifting sanctions on Russia if Russia would stop their bad behavior and reverse the policies that got the sanctions imposed on them in the first place.

Plus a few other concessions to compensate us for our trouble.

Wasn't getting Russia to reverse it's bad policies and stop it's bad behavior the point of imposing the sanctions in the first place

[Liz]

Here’s the latest on Rice:

As of March 2017, Rice has begun a job as a Distinguished Visiting Research Fellow in the “American University’s School of International Service.”.... During her residency at AU, Rice will work primarily on her next book and mentor SIS students on careers in national security.

The school defines her position with Obama thusly: ”She provided the President with daily national security briefings and was ‘responsible for’ coordinating the formulation and implementation of ‘all aspects’ of the Administration’s foreign and national security policy, intelligence, and military efforts.

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American University’s School of International Service
4400 Massachusetts Avenue, NW
Washington, D.C. 20016

Phone: 202-885-1000

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Any and all federal funds received by this school should be terminated ASAP.

[Liz]

From the MSNBC transcript: Susan Rice tells Andrea Mitchell@00:51 – …”Let me explain how this works. I was a National Security Adviser, my job is to protect the American people and the security of our country. That’s the same as the Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense and CIA Director.; and every morning, to enable us to do that, we receive – from the intelligence com munity – a compilation of intelligence reports that the IC, the intelligence community, has selected for us –on a daily basis– to give us the best information as to what’s going on around the world.”

Susan Rice’s White House Unmasking: A Watergate-style Scandal National Review ^ | 4/4/2017 | Andrew C. McCarthy / FR Posted by Pfesser

EXCERPT---The thing to bear in mind is that the White House does not do investigations. Not criminal investigations, not intelligence investigations. Remember that.

Why is that so important in the context of explosive revelations that Susan Rice, President Obama’s national-security adviser, confidant, and chief dissembler, called for the “unmasking” of Trump campaign and transition officials whose identities and communications were captured in the collection of U.S. intelligence on foreign targets?

Because we’ve been told for weeks that any unmasking of people in Trump’s circle that may have occurred had two innocent explanations: (1) the FBI’s investigation of Russian meddling in the election and (2) the need to know, for purposes of understanding the communications of foreign intelligence targets, the identities of Americans incidentally intercepted or mentioned.

The unmasking, Obama apologists insist, had nothing to do with targeting Trump or his people. That won’t wash.

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Rice's interest was most assuredly not in national security but to advance the political interests of the Democratic party (and Hillary Clinton).......and, not incidentally, Obama. And she used the surveillance and intelligence power of the US govt to do it.

[Liz]

Looks like Democrats and the MSM are standing firm...still mired in a Hillary-induced delirium.

But some progress has been made (/s). Democrats have gone from: "Trump is insane for suggesting Obama admin spied on him," [to] "Susan Rice was just doing her job."

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Just doing her job. Phew, I'm so relieved. So Democrats are OK w/ Obama/Susan's surveilling/unmasking b/c it's "all legal."

Okay, then Pres Trump needs to do his job. He needs to announce ASAP, that since this is “all legal,” his administration will step up and do the legal thing to protect Americans' safety and security.

They'll be surveilling and unmasking any and all Democrats, on a continuing non-stop basis, particularly Democrats who have talked with foreign ambassadors, foreign financial groups, tropical offshore entities, and the like.

Plus, the Trump administration will ask for the “unmasking” of all those Democrats who are involved in such talks... because it is "legal."

AND Trump will use "Obama’s very on legal rules" to distribute that information to every US intelligence agency. (HAT TIP BUBBA GUMP SHRIMP)

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Democrat will be s-o-o-o pleased that Trump is following in Obama's footsteps.

[Liz]

Great stuff-—deserves a repeat. (It’s also a crime to willfully withhold information when applying for a FISA.)

Questions for Rice:
1. When did you request the unmasking, and from which agency? Who in that agency actually did the unmasking? Please provide the written requests you submitted.
2. Once the names were unmasked, did you still believe there was a threat to national security from the named US persons?
3. If so, with whom did you share the information, and what actions were taken to protect America?
4. If not, then you should not have shared the names with anyone else, so how did the names become known? (HAT TIP OMEGATOO)

[Liz]

Of course....that's it in a nutshell. Violation of Civil Rights under Color of law and conspiracy. She conspired with others to violate Donald Trump and other’s 4th amendment rights.

And let's not forget the invasion of privacy lawsuits.

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It is possible that Obama, Rice, Farkas, Bill and Hillary and anyone else who saw the intel may have committed other federal offenses including but not limited to:

<><> Title 18 U.S.C. §1341, Mail Fraud, 18 U.S.C.§1001, no Presenting a False Document to an Agent of the US Government (involves several felonies and could include forgery);

<><> 18 U.S.C.§1027 False statements and concealment of facts in relation to documents required by the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 and other possible offenses including civil and/or criminal RICO violations.

<><> 18 U.S.C. §§1961-68 (RICO Act)18 U.S.C. §1001 (making false Statements to Agents of the US Government),

<><> 18 U.S.C. §241(Conspiracies Against Civil Rights).

<><> Possibly full investigations centering on RICO conspiracies under 18 U.S.C. §1962(c) could be warranted because (1) the persons (2) were employed by or associated with an enterprise (3) that engaged in or affected interstate commerce and that (4) the persons operated or managed the enterprise (5) through a "pattern" (6) of racketeering activity, and (7) the taxpayers were injured by reason of the "pattern" of racketeering activity.

<><> Alleged Offenses could include Violation of Title 18 U.S.C. §2 41 – Conspiracy Against Constitutional Rights – which prohibits in relevant part, “two or more persons (from conspiring) to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same . . .” See, 18 U.S.C. §241.

Taxpayers demand the following agencies commence investigations at once:

<><> FBI -- Wire Fraud Division

<><> IRS-Fraud Unit

<><> Department of Justice’s Office of the Inspector General,

<><> Department of Commerce’s Office of Inspector General.

<><> DOJ's Criminal Division-- Public Integrity Section

<><> DOJ Criminal Division--Organized Crime and Gang Section.

[Eleutheria5]

Now just a cotton pickin’ minit here. Let’s be fair. Liberals do not want to wipe all conservatives off the face of the earth, only those who might have a chance of winning elections, and they would gladly settle for them discrediting themselves with a little help from fake news. When that doesn’t work, they feel threatened and spy on them.

[boxlunch]

Awesome! Thanks for doing that. I really hope they give it a try! We are at war after all ;-) with the DMC and other America hating commies. I think that could have a profound effect on counteracting the “Tokyo Rose” constant 24/7 propaganda machine

[Grampa Dave]

This is only the tip of the iceberg.

Recall a few years earlier how Maxine Waters was bragging about the database Obama had on EVERYONE.

Maxine Waters Confirms “Big Brother” Database in 2013!

Mad Maxine Waters confirmed Obama’s Big Brother Database in 2013. Which means Obama had been acquiring that database on all of us shortly after he became president.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIA1lQBqH1s

[Bob434]

Yup- like you say- a huge win win idea- hope fox goes for it-

[Art in Idaho]

You’re welcome! Send them a note too. Whitehouse.gov, top right, “Get in Touch.” I couldn’t find it at first. Fight on!

[piasa]

I bet it goes back to unmasking Petreaus and his biographer, at least.
They were really torqued when he went to Benghazi without any handlers.

[pepsionice]

If you go and examine all of her requests....and maybe there are 400 of these and only five have to do with Trump Tower....then she might have a good argument that she was being neutral.

If there are only forty of these requests, with the names unmasked, and 99-percent involve Trump Tower....she’s got a legal problem and needs to lawyer-up real quick.

At this point, the Senate Democrats who would come to her aid and help hinder this episode....have to worry because Trump might have another card or two to put on the table and turn this process into a root-canal episode.

She’ll give the 5th at the Senate hearings, and this will likely be handed over to some special prosecutor. Pretty stupid act....all that work to point some illegal stuff at Trump....results in nothing, and then your bold illegal act gets discovered and you are the one in illegal trouble.

[PMAS]

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[Art in Idaho]

I bet it goes back to unmasking Petreaus and his biographer, at least. They were really torqued when he went to Benghazi without any handlers.

Oh yes, I bet they spied on Petreaus big time. I still think the spying on Trump went back to June, 2015, and maybe before.

Hat tip to gaijin for this:

A DOZEN INSTANCES OF OBAMA SPYING

1.The US National Security Agency bugged a private climate change strategy meeting; between UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin;

2. Obama bugged Chief of Staff of UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) for long term interception targetting his Swiss phone;

3. Obama singled out the Director of the Rules Division of the World Trade Organisation (WTO), Johann Human, and targetted his Swiss phone for long term interception;

4. Obama stole sensitive Italian diplomatic cables detailing how Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu implored Italy’s Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi to help patch up his relationship with US President Barack Obama, who was refusing to talk to Netanyahu;

5. Obama intercepted top EU and Japanese trade ministers discussing their secret strategy and red lines to stop the US “extort[ing]” them at the WTO Doha arounds (the talks subsequently collapsed);

6. Obama explicitly targeted five other top EU economic officials for long term interception, including their French, Austrian and Belgium phone numbers;

7. Obama explicitly targetted the phones of Italy’s ambassador to NATO and other top Italian officials for long term interception; and

8. Obama intercepted details of a critical private meeting between then French president Nicolas Sarkozy, Merkel and Berluscon, where the latter was told the Italian banking system was ready to “pop like a cork”.

9. In addition to the above list we also know now that Obama wire tapped various individuals in the US media that were reporting information not flattering to the Obama Administration. It is widely known that Obama’s Justice Department targeted journalists with wiretaps in 2013:

10. In 2013 the liberal Washington Post expressed outrage after the revelation that the Justice Department had investigated the newsgathering activities of a Fox News reporter as a potential crime in a probe of classified leaks. The reporter, Fox News’ James Rosen and his family, were part of an investigation into government officials anonymously leaking information to journalists. Rosen was not charged but his movements and actions were tracked.

11. Also in 2013, members of the Associated Press were also a target of the surveillance. The ultra liberal New Yorker even noted that “In moderate and liberal circles, at least, the phone-records scandal, partly because it involves the dear old A.P. and partly because it raises anew the specter of Big Brother, may well present the most serious threat to Obama’s reputation.”

12. Reporter Sharyl Attkisson said in 2014 that her personal computer and CBS laptop were hacked after she began filing stories about Benghazi that were unflattering to the Obama administration. A source who checked her laptop said the hacker used spyware “proprietary to a government agency,” according to an article in the New York Post.

[RipSawyer]

Your grandather wore grey? My GREAT grandfather was a confederate soldier and I am almost 73. He was born one hundred years before me. He turned 16 in 1860, was 35 when my grandfather was born and my grandfather was 34 when my father was born and I was born the year my father turned 31.