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Court: Pennsylvania's congressional map is illegal and must be redrawn
The Morning Call ^ | 22 January 2018 | Steve Esack

Posted on 01/22/2018 11:35:12 AM PST by napscoordinator

Pennsylvania's Republican-leaning congressional map is illegal and must be redrawn, according to a 4-3 ruling by the Democratic-leaning state Supreme Court.

The 3-page ruling was released this afternoon.

The order says the state’s 2011 map “plainly and palpably violates the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.” The ruling directs the GOP-controlled Legislature to redraw the map and submit it to Gov. Tom Wolf, a Democrat, by Feb. 9 and the court for approval by Feb. 15. If lawmakers or the governor miss those deadlines, the court would draw its own map “based on the evidentiary record developed.”

Gerrymandering foes urged to apply pressure A new map would impact the candidates running in the May 18 because those district boundaries could change. Republicans have consistently won 13 of the state’s 20 congressional seats since the map went into effect in the 2012 election.

Democrats quickly took to Twitter to celebrate the victory. But it could be a short one.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2018paprimary; congress; congressional; congressionalmap; elections; gerrymandering; map; paping; pastatesc; pasupremecourt; pennsylvania; primary
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To: fwdude

They’re saying, “Draw your maps to elect a half-dozen more Democrats or we’ll do it.” This is how they’re planning to steal the 2018 elections, by changing the lines.


41 posted on 01/22/2018 12:50:49 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: Lurking Libertarian

They didn’t rely on the PA Constitution, they relied on their party affiliation. About as blatant a power-grab attempt to steal a majority of seats for their own party at the expense of the voting majority of Republicans. This MUST be tossed by the Federal courts.


42 posted on 01/22/2018 12:53:14 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: napscoordinator

But its perfectly legal to do it in Colorado linking liberal Boulder with conservative Loveland located 70 miles away.


43 posted on 01/22/2018 12:55:02 PM PST by Zathras
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Absolutely — I was going to mention Arizona. I recall Jan Brewer suing to keep the Democrats from taking over the “non-partisan” redistricting process and screwing the Republican majority in the state.

Naturally a partisan liberal judge stopped her from keeping the non-partisan commission truly non-partisan (”let that sink in”, as the punkies say nowadays).

And the Republicans sit on their hands and willingly get screwed in places like Maryland, Illinois, Washington, Oregon, California, New York and everything east of the Hudson (though not much would matter there, probably).

Since 2011 liberal judges have **mandated** partisan Democrat outcomes in Florida and Virginia though at least in 2016 their plan didn’t change anything in North Carolina, but R’s lost seats in FL and VA — as intended.


44 posted on 01/22/2018 12:55:03 PM PST by PermaRag (Want free and fair elections in America again? Destroy the media.)
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To: napscoordinator

Seven beats 84 ever time! /s (I don’t know how many are in the legislature)


45 posted on 01/22/2018 12:58:32 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Road Warrior ‘04

Sorry!

Four beats 84 ever time! /s (I don’t know how many are in the legislature)


46 posted on 01/22/2018 12:59:57 PM PST by Road Warrior ‘04 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: napscoordinator

Democrats ambushed us in an off-year election. They got a bunch of Rat judges elected to the State Supreme Court.

And THIS is the result. All part of a deliberate long-term strategy to retake the House that is working on ALL fronts.

We need to learn the lesson that the Left, quite literally, lays awake in bed every night thinking up stuff like this.

Two things in our favor are:

1) I don’t think there is time to actually redraw all the districts, black-robed edicts not withstanding.

2) I think there will be a challenge under the 14th. Amendment in that there will be a primary, then the districts will change, then a general (which effectively disenfranchises people from their primaries)


47 posted on 01/22/2018 1:07:11 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I know. Amazing in their hypocrisy, aren’t they?

So Republicans drawing lines to ensure an advantage is “unconstitutional discrimination,” but drawing line to ensure more Democrat votes isn’t?


48 posted on 01/22/2018 1:16:10 PM PST by fwdude (Why is it that the only positive things to come out of LGBT organizations are their AIDS tests?)
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To: napscoordinator

District 10 (Lou Barletta BTW) touches New Jersey and 100 miles of the border with New York and then stretches down to within about 30 miles of Maryland as ell. That ain't a shape to be proud of.

49 posted on 01/22/2018 1:16:56 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

Beg pardon — District 10 is Tom Marino, District 11 is Lou Barletta.


50 posted on 01/22/2018 1:21:36 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: napscoordinator

How in the Sam Hill will boundaries be decided in 2 weeks? My distrit (6th) is a traget. We need a new governor and new judges. This was shot down earlier. What constitutes egregiously unconstitutional?
The argument is subjective as hell.


51 posted on 01/22/2018 1:29:41 PM PST by SueRae (An administration like no other.)
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To: napscoordinator

How in the Sam Hill will boundaries be decided in 2 weeks? My distrit (6th) is a traget. We need a new governor and new judges. This was shot down earlier. What constitutes egregiously unconstitutional?
The argument is subjective as hell.


52 posted on 01/22/2018 1:29:44 PM PST by SueRae (An administration like no other.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
 

REPRESENTATIVE DISTRICT GEOMETRY

Absolutely ludicrous.
Someone needs to enshrine in law that boundaries must conform to some sort of reasonable geometrical shaping.

I did.

All election voting representation districts MUST conform to a geometric RECTANGLE for equality of representation.

All non conforming elections, are null & void, must be retroactively re-voted.

Any Republican Judge worth their weight would immediately pass this.

Any other shape is racist.

53 posted on 01/22/2018 1:35:54 PM PST by TheNext
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To: Buckeye McFrog

There is no way the boundaries get redrawn in time for the prmaries, let alone by Feb. 9th. And then they will be challenged. Who will be picking up this legal tab? As usual..


54 posted on 01/22/2018 1:39:40 PM PST by SueRae (An administration like no other.)
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To: SueRae

Gerrymandering had been a “thing” in this country for 190 years.

It only became a problem when Republicans got good at it.


55 posted on 01/22/2018 1:46:13 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: napscoordinator

Maryland gerrymandered after the 2010 census to reduce Republicans from 2 to 1 seats of the 8 in the state as well.

The Democrats did the dirty work down there.

Both parties do it and the map here in PA was gerrymandered.


56 posted on 01/22/2018 1:46:22 PM PST by Nextrush (Freedom is everybody's business: Remember Pastor Niemoller)
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To: fwdude

Yup. I can’t recall the last time a court ordered Democrats in a given state to hand their majorities away to Republicans. Not in the modern era.

There’s really only two requirements of any given state: one, they must comply with the Voting Rights Act (which tends to benefit Republicans, anyhow, by putting Black Dem voters into a single seat) and that the CDs have roughly an equal population. Anything beyond that are onerous political demands, and legislatures should be allowed a free hand to draw said lines as they see fit.


57 posted on 01/22/2018 1:49:03 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: lightman

As you drive down W Marshall St in Norristown, PA, you pass through 3 congressional districts in approx 30 seconds.


58 posted on 01/22/2018 1:49:24 PM PST by mooncoin
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To: cowboyusa

Nope DEMons get to draw.

GOP draws -> Wolf vetos -> Dem PA supreme court draws


59 posted on 01/22/2018 1:49:25 PM PST by mooncoin
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To: napscoordinator

The Senate Republicans’ top lawyer Drew Crompton said the Legislature will appeal the court ruling to the U.S. Supreme Court.

Last week, the U.S. Supreme Court halted a lower federal court ruling that ordered the North Carolina legislature to redraw its congressional map that was found unconstitutional.


60 posted on 01/22/2018 1:52:47 PM PST by kabar
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