Posted on 04/02/2018 3:49:25 AM PDT by maddog55
Jesus. For THIS, Obama killed the F-22?
What a POS muslin asshat he was.
When will we abandon this thing?
I’m not in the military, but the F-35 seems to me, to be quite a good plane.
Best ever. By anyone. Ever.
Until you compare it to the gestation period of the F-22 Raptor.
The F-22 beats it in every way.
And that’s why 0failure killed it and pushed the f-35
Meanwhile, the Chinese received the plans for the f-22 and have made their own.
Thanks progressives. Treason scumbags to the core
The plane is too fat looking. No Aircraft this out of proportion will ever work.
Actually, the Chinese got the plans for the F-35 and backwards-modified it to make their own F-22.
What factors go into this mis-management?
Do we lack sufficient people with the brains and skills?
Is it Agile vs Waterfall?
Is it obsession with diversity and sensitivity?
Is the perfect the enemy of the good?
Is it greedy military-industrial complex?
Is it unitary, integrated design vs Modular plug n play?
When will we abandon this thing?
Im guessing that this will be the last piloted fighter.
Odungo saw it as a means to keep major donors....he hated the military, and used every means necessary to purposely waste tax payer dollars...
“Im guessing that this will be the last piloted fighter.”
Yes and no. It will probably be the last super expensive manned plane. But I suspect the battlefield of the future will be swarmed with updated propeller driven support aircraft similar to the Super Tucano. Then again, robotic swarm technology may make them obsolete too. The point is that the guy on the ground needs somebody above him or he’s just so much meat waiting to be butchered.
We have to stop designing vehicles so expensive that their loss impacts the entire war effort. Incidentally, I think stealth will prove to have limited value in the long run as counter technologies, which are cheaper and faster to develop, will proliferate. We will end up with hundred-million dollar aircraft that are too valuable too risk and too vulnerable to use.
>>Im not in the military, but the F-35 seems to me, to be quite a good plane.
Best ever. By anyone. Ever.<<
The F-35 was SUPPOSED to be a replacement MRF for the various MRFs out there now: F-16, F-18, Mirage, etc.
The idea was a good one: A single airframe that would be low-cost and be able to be serviced in any western country and flown by any pilot in those countries.
Instead we have an expensive albatross with so much mission creep that it can do NONE of the things it was supposed to do.
Read the article about all the things wrong with the Best. Ever.
The best modern craft was the F-22. They shoulld bring it back. NOW.
And they should start the whole F35 program again, and this time stay to the principles. The F-16 and F-18 have been fantastic but they were designed 30+ years ago (when we could actually DO things).
“What a POS muslin asshat he was.”...
That “POS” is still the same POS even though he is no longer POTUS.
I am old enough to remember the infamous TFX...the previous time the DoD went for One SIze Fits All. In the end, the F-111 saw limited service as an Air Force strike bomber and ECM Platform.
We need to change the DoD back to the War Department...which is their job. We need the Services to determine what their missions are, individually, and acquire the right platforms for those missions, for the services. At best, subsystem modularity would be appropriate, but for Gods Sake, stop trying to do everything with one widget!
And, put a rational evaluation on the value of tech.
What factors go into this mis-management?
Do we lack sufficient people with the brains and skills?
Is it Agile vs Waterfall?
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The concept of “Joint Strike Fighter” is the heart of the problem. The idea of a single platform that will work for every role. It’s like one of those does-everything Swiss-army knives. Yes, it has a screw driver, pliers, saw, etc. They just don’t actually work very well for a dedicated purpose.
“I am old enough to remember the infamous TFX...the previous time the DoD went for One SIze Fits All. In the end, the F-111 saw limited service as an Air Force strike bomber and ECM Platform.
We need to change the DoD back to the War Department...which is their job. We need the Services to determine what their missions are, individually, and acquire the right platforms for those missions, for the services. At best, subsystem modularity would be appropriate, but for Gods Sake, stop trying to do everything with one widget!
And, put a rational evaluation on the value of tech.”
Where is that like button?
Google, Bing: F-35 Deployed. You might be surprised.
Leatherman is pretty decent. I carry one almost all time.
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