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NY Times: Trump Is Crude. But He’s Right About Saudi Arabia.
NYTimes ^ | Michael Doran and Tony Badran

Posted on 11/22/2018 9:12:40 AM PST by RoosterRedux

Mr. Trump’s sidestepping of reports that the C.I.A. believes that Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman ordered the killing as “Maybe he did and maybe he didn’t!” was jarring. But every president since Harry Truman has aligned with unsavory Middle Eastern rulers in the service of national interests. The difference here is that Mr. Trump seemed unapologetic about this state of affairs with only a passing nod to the affront to our values that Mr. Khashoggi’s murder represents.

That’s nothing to cheer. But it is vitally important to evaluate the policy on its merits more than its mode of expression. And the truth is that on the big strategic questions, Mr. Trump is cleareyed and right.

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Mr. Trump’s critics counter with the claim that he is emboldening evil. Samantha Power, former ambassador to the United Nations, cited autocrats like Rodrigo Duterte of the Philippines, Abdel Fattah el-Sisi of Egypt and Vladimir Putin of Russia, in addition to Prince Mohammed, in saying that “Trump’s siding with the meanest and nastiest out there” will “leave the world even nastier.”

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Notably absent from Ms. Power’s list of evildoers, however, are Iran and its proxies. The omission is telling. As part of its pivot toward Iran and away from the Sunni states and Israel, the Obama administration turned a blind eye to the slaughter in Syria that Moscow, Tehran and its proxies unleashed, and, thanks to the nuclear deal, delivered countless billions to the Iranian war machine.

His critics would say that Mr. Trump is now similarly emboldening a reckless Saudi regime.

This is a false analogy. The Saudis are not the moral equivalents of Iranians and the Russians.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


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To: RoosterRedux

Over 30 reporters have been MURDERED IN MEXICO, and we don’t hear any complaints from the MSM, do we?


21 posted on 11/22/2018 9:52:54 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: WASCWatch
Since when is telling the truth “crude”?

When it isn't what you wanted to hear.;-)

22 posted on 11/22/2018 9:53:34 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Drew68

Post# 20

Exactly correct!


23 posted on 11/22/2018 9:53:43 AM PST by heshtesh (Brtan)
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To: Drew68

Yes. This Times article pretends to defend Trump, but in fact is full of lies. The Crown Prince is a friend of the West and democracy, and the guy who was killed was a Muslim terrorist of the worst kind.

No surprise that a Muslim terrorist did some work for the Washington Compost. I don’t think he was ever actually a journalist, but he slipped them some of the usual evil Muslim advice.


24 posted on 11/22/2018 9:57:38 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: RoosterRedux

What the hell is the CIA doing, when they report something to the press. A spy agency should never be talking to the press. When the swamp is releasing press releases, we have a coupe.


25 posted on 11/22/2018 9:57:47 AM PST by poinq
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To: Trumpisourlastchance
NeoCons happy with Trump following their bad advice.

Trump chose to maintain the status quo with the Saudis, which given the limited set of alternatives isn't necessarily a bad thing.

If the Saudis don't follow Trump's lead going forward however, we'll know letting them off the hook was a mistake.

26 posted on 11/22/2018 10:00:51 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: RoosterRedux

Boy, I’ll bet it hurt to write that...


27 posted on 11/22/2018 10:07:11 AM PST by Thunder 6
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To: RoosterRedux

Kashoggi did NOT even have a US GREEN CARD..!

They lied about that, as they did the notion he was ON THE WaPo STAFF..!

So he scribbled something that Amazon published:

SO WHAT..? BOO HOO:

Not a peep out of Da Gummint when Katie Steinle was killed on a San Fran pier, nary a murmur when our 4 guys got waxed in Benghazi.

They only reason for MSM interest in Kashoggi is cuz MBS is buds with the Prez, nothing more.


28 posted on 11/22/2018 10:12:14 AM PST by gaijin
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To: RoosterRedux

I wonder when Turkey is going to stop killing their own people, they have been doing it for 100 years. I wonder when Iran is going to stop killing American soldiers?


29 posted on 11/22/2018 10:18:39 AM PST by centurion316
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To: metmom

Hi Metmom. I don’t think the authors of this piece work for the NYTimes...which makes this story all the more interesting.


30 posted on 11/22/2018 10:21:11 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux
NY Times: Trump Is Crude Not PC. But He’s Right About Saudi Arabia.
31 posted on 11/22/2018 10:27:47 AM PST by depressed in 06 (60 in '20.)
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

Your assertions are totally incorrect.

Iran is the one who supports and funds Muslim terrorism. Tha Saudis are our allies against Iran.


32 posted on 11/22/2018 10:30:55 AM PST by Innovative
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Naturally they gave equal time to the snarks, like the reprehensible Iran-supporting, Jew-hating Samantha Power. Slimes gets it wrong even when they get it right, which is seldom. Thanks RoosterRedux.

33 posted on 11/22/2018 10:40:13 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: G Larry
Doesn't fit the narrative that the invasion is imaginary. Move along.

34 posted on 11/22/2018 10:52:32 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: heshtesh; Drew68; Innovative
The guy running the show now, Mohammed Bin Salman, was 16 years old on 9/11 and is trying to rein in Wahhabism while reforming other rigid, religiously-mandated rules that has left Saudi Arabia mired in the dark ages. He is not our enemy. With President Trump's support, MBS will bring Saudi Arabia into the modern civilized world and I don't care one whit if he murdered a meddlesome, terrorist-supporting, Muslim Brotherhood Islamist journalist.
D***ed right, in addition, the DNC is our number one enemy, followed by Putin and his Buttboys (some overlap between the first two), a bunch of NGO-funding billionaires (some overlap with number one, and maybe number two), THEN Iran and the countries it occupies in person or by proxy (Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, parts of Afghanistan, Gaza, the Sinai, various parts of Africa) and has under its influence (various parts of Latin America) -- and Iran is going to move up as the billionaires, uh, die off.

35 posted on 11/22/2018 10:53:25 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: tomkat; Innovative; alloysteel; luvbach1; trebb; yesthatjallen; Texas Eagle; metmom; ...
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And Tomkat, I'm stealin' that Trump graphic. :^)

36 posted on 11/22/2018 10:59:24 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: RoosterRedux

Wow that must have been hard for the Slimes to print.


37 posted on 11/22/2018 11:21:06 AM PST by Robert357 ( Dan Rather was discharged as "medically unfit" on May 11, 1954.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Trump shoulda said, This is FAKE news... the CIA does not LEAK!!!

then watch the splody heads

38 posted on 11/22/2018 11:56:30 AM PST by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: RoosterRedux

San Bernardino attack no deal.
Boston Marathon attack no big deal.
The death of four Americans at the US Consulate no bog deal.
Heck the left understood the attacks of 9/11.

But the death of Khashoggi, a member of the Muslim Brotherhood id the biggest event since Pearl Harbor to the left.


39 posted on 11/22/2018 11:58:42 AM PST by NoLibZone (If Putin flies to Mexico, crosses the border illegally, he can vote in San Francisco.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Only snowflakes like the journies at the NYT would describe Trump as “crude”...the rest of us see a brave, no-nonsense, leader who is putting America back on the right track.

Of course, that’s the “beef” of the democrats...he’s blocking and exposing their crimes and misbehavior and they are in absolute panic mode.

He keeps them so busy jumping from subject, to subject, they can’t get their head screwed on straight.

True, he is not “gentile”, but we don’t need don’t need “gentile” in this attempted take over of America by socialist and communist terror forces.

We need zero-tolerance and Trump is trying to provide that very theme...and the “participation trophy” crowd are frozen with fear that their little apple cart is being overturned.


40 posted on 11/22/2018 12:12:11 PM PST by FrankR (Make America Great Again, and Keep It That Way.)
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