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How one of World War II's greatest mysteries is set to be solved as the only body found after 645 sailors were killed in Australia's worst naval tragedy is finally identified by DNA
Daily Mail (Australia/UK) ^ | 15th November 2021 | Stephen Gibbs

Posted on 11/14/2021 11:11:46 PM PST by naturalman1975

The only body recovered after the nation's greatest maritime disaster has been identified 80 years after HMAS Sydney was sunk in a World War II naval battle.

All 645 officers and crew aboard the Sydney were lost when she was attacked during World War II by the German raider Kormoran off the coast of Western Australia.

The action on November 19, 1941 in which both vessels were sunk remains the most grievous loss in the history of the Royal Australian Navy.

The wrecks of HMAS Sydney and HSK Kormoran were not found until 2008, solving one great mystery, and now another has been solved by DNA technology.

Almost three months after HMAS Sydney went down, on February 6, 1942, the body of one of the light cruiser's sailors was found on a life raft at Christmas Island.

The sailor had suffered a shrapnel wound to the head but naval investigators were never able to identify his remains.

He was was white, believed to be aged between 20 and 30, and between 167cm and 187cm tall.

He was described as having blue eyes and blond, light brown or read hair and was wearing blue overalls, suggesting he was not an officer.

The sailor was originally buried on Christmas Island and exhumed in October 2006 to be reburied near Geraldton's Dome of Souls memorial to HMAS Sydney.

Before his remains were reinterred in November 2008 bone and dental samples were taken to extract DNA in a last bid to put a name to the unknown hero.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: australia; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; navy; worldwareleven; ww2; wwii
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Under the wide and starry sky,
Dig the grave and let me lie.
Glad did I live and gladly die,
And I laid me down with a will.

This be the verse you grave for me:
Here he lies where he longed to be;
Home is the sailor, home from sea,
And the hunter home from the hill.

- Robert Louis Stevenson, Requiem


1 posted on 11/14/2021 11:11:46 PM PST by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

I thought I knew a lot about WWII. I never knew that the Germans used converted freighters as ‘raiders’.

Thanks for the post.

Since the DM article was derelict in detail, I searched and found this account of the battle, which reflects the conclusions of the 1999 inquiry into the Sydney’s sinking.

https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/2015/08/20/german-merchant-raider-kormoran-hmas-sydneys-deadly-duel/


2 posted on 11/14/2021 11:59:36 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

In never knew the Germans got anywhere near Australia.


3 posted on 11/15/2021 12:21:30 AM PST by rdl6989 ( )
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To: naturalman1975

Taken out by a German Q-Ship. I read about these as a child back in the 1950’s. Very Democrat. Very cowardly. Right out of the bottom of the disgusting dirty tricks bag.


4 posted on 11/15/2021 12:27:15 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists Call 'em what you will, they all have fairies livin' in their trees)
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To: logi_cal869

Kormoran was but one of several armed merchant cruisers that Germany deployed in WWII. Exploits of the Atlantis was made into a movie. I’ve not seen it in some time, but IIRC it was reasonably authentic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant_raider
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Under_Ten_Flags

Germany had used raiders in WWI.

http://ahoy.tk-jk.net/MaraudersWW1/Raiders.html


5 posted on 11/15/2021 12:37:18 AM PST by abb
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To: rockinqsranch

It was the British who invented the Q ship back in WWI.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q-ship

In the early part of the war, German subs would surface alongside a merchant ship and give the crew a chance to get to lifeboats before sinking it with their deck gun.

After some U-boats were sunk, the Germans started just torpedoing the ships.


6 posted on 11/15/2021 1:00:40 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (A Leftist can't enjoy life unless they are controlling, hurting, or destroying others)
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To: naturalman1975

How is this “..one of World War II’s greatest mysteries ..” ??

Doesn’t seem “mysterious” at all.


7 posted on 11/15/2021 1:02:21 AM PST by A strike (Public Health 21st century murder by government. Doktor FauxiMengeleGates to aTerreHaute gurney now)
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To: A strike

The identity of the only body found from a ship sunk with all hands.

That’s the mystery.

And until the wrecks were found a few years ago, there was the added mystery of how the Kormoran was able to so easily destroy a significantly superior ship.


8 posted on 11/15/2021 1:57:29 AM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: rdl6989

The Germans sank about 18 ships in Australian waters during the course of the war.


9 posted on 11/15/2021 2:01:17 AM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

That makes it “one of World War II’s greatest mysteries “ ?!?


10 posted on 11/15/2021 2:04:02 AM PST by A strike (Public Health 21st century murder by government. Doktor FauxiMengeleGates to aTerreHaute gurney now)
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To: A strike
That makes it “one of World War II’s greatest mysteries “ ?!?

Nearly everything today is hyperbole. What I really dislike are those insipid headlines how someone's reply "destroys" somebody else's argument and when you read it there is nothing more than a single, mundane tweet.

11 posted on 11/15/2021 2:10:42 AM PST by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: naturalman1975
And until the wrecks were found a few years ago, there was the added mystery of how the Kormoran was able to so easily destroy a significantly superior ship.

Yes. It is an incredible naval story. There is a great little museum in Geraldton where they have some displays.

12 posted on 11/15/2021 2:23:06 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries. )
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To: A strike

In Australia, yes, it does. This is one of the most significant of Australian war stories and the identity of the body has been a big part of that.

And this article is from an Australian based news source.


13 posted on 11/15/2021 2:33:27 AM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: A strike

Consider it this way.

HMAS Sydney was one of Australia’s most powerful warships, and one that had been very successful in the Mediterranean.

And it vanished virtually without trace. We knew what had happened to it, from the reports of the survivors of the Kormoran - but it was just gone. No wreckage, and just one liferaft with an unknown body on it, and one lifebelt. Nothing else.

Now can you get why in Australia, this has always been seen as something of a mystery? A big one?


14 posted on 11/15/2021 2:39:14 AM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

And you’re going with that ?


15 posted on 11/15/2021 2:39:19 AM PST by A strike (Public Health 21st century murder by government. Doktor FauxiMengeleGates to aTerreHaute gurney now)
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To: A strike

As a retired officer of the Royal Australian Navy and a military historian, I actually do think this is a significant story. You are entirely free to believe otherwise if you wish.


16 posted on 11/15/2021 2:47:47 AM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

A significant story, yes, but, if “We knew what happened to it ...” then how is it a great mystery ?

Is every ship/sub/aircraft lost without a trace similarly a “great mystery” ?


17 posted on 11/15/2021 3:15:21 AM PST by A strike (Public Health 21st century murder by government. Doktor FauxiMengeleGates to aTerreHaute gurney now)
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To: A strike

When it is the most famous ship in the entire country, yes.

And that is what HMAS Sydney was at the time. Because of her heroic service in the Mediterranean the year before.

A third of all Australian sailors lost during World War II were on that one ship.

I understand that an American has no particular reason to know anything about Australian history.

But in Australia, the loss of HMAS Sydney in World War II is seen as a major event.

It is one of the single most significant Australian war stories.

And aspects of it us seen as a mystery.

What we knew was it had been sunk.

The mysterious aspects were as to how it was lost without virtually any trace, without broadcasting any distress signals. A whole bunch of conspiracy theories grew up about it over the years - one of the most notable of which involved the possibility she was sunk by a Japanese submarine - three weeks before Pearl Harbour. We now know none of those conspiracy theories are true, but they were fed by the mystery and in turn they fed it.

Understand this didn’t happen in the middle of an ocean. It happened quite close to the coast of Western Australia. She was less than a day out of port.

And this headline was in an Australian news source, so it’s not a surprising one.


18 posted on 11/15/2021 3:36:23 AM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975
The Sinking of the HMAS Sydney

I'd like to know the answer to the question posed in that last paragraph, too.

Why did the Sydney approach an unknown vessel, forfeiting its superior range and firepower.

19 posted on 11/15/2021 3:57:15 AM PST by mewzilla (Those aren't masks. They're muzzles. )
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To: mewzilla

Lots of discussion here, with tons of citations to inquiries, books, articles, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_between_HMAS_Sydney_and_German_auxiliary_cruiser_Kormoran


20 posted on 11/15/2021 4:15:12 AM PST by abb
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