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Exclusive: U.S. aims to arm Ukraine with advanced anti-ship missiles to fight Russian blockade
Reuters ^ | 19-MAY-2022 | Mike Stone

Posted on 05/19/2022 1:04:56 PM PDT by SpeedyInTexas

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To: Bayan

How long before we are run out of the Gulf of Mexico?


21 posted on 05/19/2022 1:50:24 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative (Nature is the ultimate conservative)
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To: JonPreston

22 posted on 05/19/2022 1:50:47 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Bayan

“ Run the Russians out of the Black Sea.”

Out or to the bottom


23 posted on 05/19/2022 1:53:36 PM PDT by libh8er
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To: SpeedyInTexas

Shrug... Then they can just use subs to torpedo ay Uke cargo ships. They can also target the harpoon sites for missile attacks. And the US Taxpayer takes it up the azz yet again.


24 posted on 05/19/2022 1:55:02 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: JonPreston

Did you draw that yourself Nina?


25 posted on 05/19/2022 1:56:34 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: pierrem15

From 91 until the 2014 coup, they didn’t care because their navy base went on as normal. But with the ethnic cleaning in the Donbass sure to happen if Ukraine could get into Crimea (they can’t) the Russians won’t let it go.

And despite the fantasies of DC, Crimea will never become a NATO navy base. It’s been a Russian navy base since the 1780s, they fought the Crimean war there, they fought a dreadful battle there against the German nazis... they won’t be letting it go.


26 posted on 05/19/2022 1:59:43 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: JonPreston

Hush


27 posted on 05/19/2022 2:00:17 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: jimwatx

Crimea or the Donbas, and any attempt to remove them from either will result in a tactical nuke being used.

You have knowledge from inside the Orc high command, aka Pootie Toot? Was this secret knowledge passed to you via your FSB handlers? Or are you just blowing the usual boring fear-mongering propaganda smoke?


28 posted on 05/19/2022 2:04:20 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: House Atreides

I hope the Biden administration disappears up its own collective rectum. Thats what they deserve anyway.

But in a way these characters are just fallout, a symptom of your real problems.


29 posted on 05/19/2022 2:04:36 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: kiryandil

Ever heard of Russian submarines, missiles & aircraft?

Ukraine will not have a port when this is over, if we keep upping the ante, and we are.


30 posted on 05/19/2022 2:05:37 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: pierrem15

It had Sevastopol by lease.


31 posted on 05/19/2022 2:06:07 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

Exactly.


32 posted on 05/19/2022 2:06:36 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: House Atreides

the possibility that this could motivate the Russians to invade ALL of Ukraine’s southwestern territories


If only they had the manpower ... wait they don’t even have the manpower to close one tiny pincer north from Popasna. And now you want them to attack all of the SW?


33 posted on 05/19/2022 2:07:29 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: jimwatx

Exclusive: U.S. aims to arm Ukraine with advanced anti-ship missiles to fight Russian blockade

Whatever it takes to prolong the war.


34 posted on 05/19/2022 2:08:59 PM PDT by saintgermaine (Saintgermain the time traveler)
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To: buwaya

What would they invade with?

According to some they just unleashed their fearsome laser weapon - flying sharks with lasers ... Ukraine is doomed ... run.


35 posted on 05/19/2022 2:10:20 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: buwaya
The Russians are close to their military limit, in terms of available manpower and cadre, and in “high tech” arms.

According to US doctrine. Russian doctrine is to blow up half the world with artillery while presuming that they will not have air superiority.

You might start here: Why and How Russia's artillery might be better than competitors.

There is a lot of merit in the Russian position. Despite air superiority and lots of fancy weapons, the US has been losing the ground war for most of modern history. We were ground to a standstil in Korea due to well dug in forces and superior mobility of the Norks / Chinsese on broken ground. Same in VietNam, Afghanistan and Iraq. Yeah in the last two we one lighining battles through air power, but could never control what happened on the ground, not enough to "win" anything whatever winning even meant.

Which is the other thing. What does winning look like in Ukraine. How does the war end? A smoking crater in DC and a nonexistent supply chain after the Chinese take Taiwan.

We are playing chutes and ladders, the Russiand are playing chess and the Chinese are playing GO.

36 posted on 05/19/2022 2:13:04 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: pierrem15

Ukraine and Russia were still mostly buddies during that period and Russia felt no need to upset the status quo. Things obviously changed after the 2014 coup.


37 posted on 05/19/2022 2:23:29 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: DesertRhino
I don't think anyone had any thoughts of turning Sevastopol into a NATO base.

There were no permanent NATO bases built in the post-1997 NATO members until now.

Russia certainly won't want to give it up, and I don't think the Ukrainians will have the forces to retake it. My point was that they were able to live without Crimea for a long time, so there's no particular reason for them to threaten nukes over it now.

One of the ironies of history is that John Paul Jones served as a Rear Admiral in the Imperial Russian Navy on the Black Sea.

38 posted on 05/19/2022 2:24:37 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: MercyFlush

I think you’ve got that backwards.


39 posted on 05/19/2022 2:25:16 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: PIF
Hush

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, Neocon swine.

40 posted on 05/19/2022 2:26:37 PM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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