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Fetterman vs. Oz: In the Pennsylvania Senate Race, What Motivates Voters Is Complicated
Townhall ^ | 08/23/2022 | Salena Zito

Posted on 08/23/2022 9:48:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

ERIE, Pa. -- Every election cycle in America, plenty of people will decide, for one reason or another, not to show up to vote. Their reasons often vary. They may not like either candidate's personality or may not feel either candidate represents their views -- or they just don't think the government will change, no matter who is in power.

Sometimes, however, they make that decision based on cues from someone who they believe has their and the country's best interests at heart, somehow thinking that by abstaining from voting, they are sending a message. In the heat of the moment, though, they forget the real-life consequences of elections.

In January 2021, around 400,000 Georgia Republicans decided to stay home and do just that, with most of them freely admitting they were deterred from voting by then-President Donald Trump's insistence that the 2020 elections in Georgia were "illegal and invalid." Consequently, they doubted, even if they showed up, that the state's election system would produce valid results.

It was a decision that gave the Democrats control of the U.S. Senate in addition to the White House and the House of Representatives. By now, Republican voters are painfully aware of that Democratic power monopoly, particularly after Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W. Va., struck a deal with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., to create a new tax-hiking bill on climate change.

For some reason, the press and the Democrats anticipate that the bill's passage will motivate Democratic voters to show up and get independents and centrist Republicans back on their side -- much in the same way they foolishly speculated that the passage of Obamacare was going to save Democrats from a midterm catastrophe in 2010. Instead, Democrats caused their own political catastrophe, with Republicans sweeping to power in Congress that year.

So, what about this November?

The answer lies not on Twitter or in strategy Zoom calls or on a keyboard in a newsroom but instead is found in the towns and the suburbs across America -- and, in particular, here in Pennsylvania.

The answer also lies in the psyche of the voters -- in particular, Republican voters: Do the Pennsylvania Republican voters want to be known as equivalent to the Georgia voters of 2021, not showing up because their guy or gal didn't win the primary?

Ask Georgia Republican voters, and they will tell you they regret that decision and loathe the consequences.

Ask a Pennsylvania Republican voter, and they will tell you unequivocally no.

Currently, FiveThirtyEight's forecast model has Democratic nominee John Fetterman as a 67% favorite to win the Senate race in Pennsylvania, though actual polls show Fetterman at 50% to Republican Dr. Mehmet Oz's 46.8%. That number may soon be changing, though, based on two things: voters starting to understand that Fetterman isn't the blue-collar guy his image suggests, and Pennsylvania Republicans not wanting to be like the Georgia Republican voters of 2021.

Voters are also raising concerns about Fetterman's health after his stroke earlier this year -- but they do so quietly.

Fetterman, for his part, has spent his time on Twitter, largely because of the impact his stroke has had on a number of his sensory abilities, and adopted a take-no-prisoners Twitter persona similar to Trump's that has effectively driven up Oz's negativity.

Fetterman has also run ads cut before his stroke -- again, very Trump-like -- that discuss his decision to move to the tiny town of Braddock and run for mayor so he could improve the town. It's a constant claim that should motivate the national and local press to dig in to see if he did indeed improve Braddock.

A drive along Braddock Avenue from one end to the other may lead some to doubt the notion.

When Fetterman became mayor in 2006, the population of the once-booming Mon Valley city, whose heyday was over 50 years ago, was 2,159. When he left 13 years later to become lieutenant governor, that number had dipped 20 percentage points to 1,721, with most residents living in poverty. The median income is a paltry $22,000.

Everyone knows the gritty stories Fetterman tells and knows about wife Gisele's impressive "Free Store" along Braddock Avenue -- but few tell the rest of the story.

Crime rose, not fell, when Fetterman was mayor, with hikes in property crimes, thefts, robberies and assaults. The center of the community, not just for jobs but also for socialization, Braddock Hospital, was torn down, and while a brewery and a high-end restaurant were brought in, one has since closed down and the other barely stays open four days a week. Both were too expensive for the people in Braddock to afford.

Last week, the Philadelphia Inquirer revealed that Fetterman, whose York County family is wealthy, had lived off his parents' money from 2006 to 2019, indicating that his blue-collar image is largely manufactured.

This week, Fetterman is set to headline his first rally in Erie, the politically fickle county he says is the center of the Senate race. In 2016, it gave Trump its vote; it voted for then-candidate Joe Biden in 2020; and last year, for the first time in decades, the entire county voted Republican for county executive.

It is a county that Oz has visited relentlessly, at business roundtables, diners, festivals and drop-ins walking through the towns -- visits that never make the national or local news but, like the 130-plus stops he made across the state last month, count in earning voters' support.

Oz's challenge isn't Oz himself, and it isn't even Trump. It is the mystique surrounding Fetterman that the press has created that has turned him into a folk hero. But the answer lies in the voters who must decide whom they want to have the power in November. If they vote on putting the brakes on the Democrats' policies, it will be Oz, but if they are going for imagery, it will be Fetterman.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: droz; elections; fetterman; johnfetterman; mehmetoz; pennsylvania; salenazito; senate
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1 posted on 08/23/2022 9:48:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

What you have are two guys who should both be TV reality hosts....nothing more. The fact that the state couldn’t find anyone else? That really says a lot.


2 posted on 08/23/2022 9:51:43 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: SeekAndFind

From what I read last night Fetterman has a serious heart problem that he has known about since 2017, yet has does very little about it. He had a stroke a few months ago probably related to his heart problem and it sounds as if his heart trouble is progressive, thickening of the heart muscle. On that basis alone he probably should not be in the race, his chances of further health complications sound probable.


3 posted on 08/23/2022 9:56:58 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: SeekAndFind
In January 2021, around 400,000 Georgia Republicans decided to stay home and do just that, with most of them freely admitting they were deterred from voting by then-President Donald Trump's insistence that the 2020 elections in Georgia were "illegal and invalid." Consequently, they doubted, even if they showed up, that the state's election system would produce valid results.

I call BS on that. It is more likely they were not motivated to vote by the lackluster RINO candidates.

4 posted on 08/23/2022 9:58:25 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ( Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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To: SeekAndFind

Nothing worse than a liberal media article except for a RINO never-Trumper article.


5 posted on 08/23/2022 9:58:50 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: pepsionice
. . . somehow thinking that by abstaining from voting, they are sending a message. In the heat of the moment, though, they forget the real-life consequences of elections.

We have a couple of the loudest posters on the Pennsylvania board that fit that profile to a "T".

6 posted on 08/23/2022 9:59:22 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
On that basis alone he probably should not be in the race, his chances of further health complications sound probable.

Consider that as an insurance policy if Mastriano is elected governor and Oz doesn’t win. Fetterman can croak of heart failure and Mastriano gets to appoint a Senator until there is an election.

7 posted on 08/23/2022 10:02:58 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ( Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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To: Vigilanteman

You would think someone would go and find some steel-worker or coal-miner, and just invent some legendary status to run him in senate race.

Neither Fetterman or Oz are legit creations.


8 posted on 08/23/2022 10:03:25 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Vigilanteman

Yeah, there’s one in the Pennsylvania posts that makes a fool of himself at least a couple times per day. No logic in that. Anyone that has lived in PA for any amount of time knows how to hold their nose and vote for a RINO. That is always preferable to voting for a Democrat and in this case a blatant commie. Anyways, Oz doesn’t have a political record to run on. We won’t know he is a RINO until he votes for McConnell as Leader. Btw, Oz is on record saying he won’t vote for McConnell.


9 posted on 08/23/2022 10:10:58 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA ( Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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To: SeekAndFind
Oz could conceivably win this thing.

Fetterman is a bum who sponged off of his parents well into his 40s and never really held a real job (his mayoral job had a salary of $100/month). He will also vote to the left of Bernie Sanders.

Oz just needs to light a fire under his ass and get his message out there.

Sure, he's a carpetbagger but so was Hillary Clinton and after the election, they called her Senator Clinton.

10 posted on 08/23/2022 10:10:58 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: Vigilanteman

Those guys are amazing in their ignorance and arrogance.

My pure candidate didn’t win so you’re stupid and I’m not voting.

What a bunch of retards


11 posted on 08/23/2022 10:14:52 AM PDT by cyclotic (Follow 1776Restorationmovement.com fighting for our Constitution. @1776RM on Truth)
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To: pepsionice
One thing you need to understand about Pennsylvania politics is that empty suits can be built into a legend. Bob Casey, Jr. is exhibit A; the pothead Fetterman is exhibit B.

As for those who get the GOP nod, requirement #1 is that they are largely rich enough to finance their own campaigns. That alone winnowed it down to Oz and the China hedge fund guy named McCormick. If Kathy Barnett had somehow managed to win, she would have been sandbagged in the general election due to lack of financing. That's the reality.

12 posted on 08/23/2022 10:14:53 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Drew68

Hillary had the Clinton branding with her husband. Riding coat tails is easy in NY. It’s a solid democrat lock.


13 posted on 08/23/2022 10:15:19 AM PDT by DownInFlames (P)
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To: Vigilanteman

I am one of those that despises Festerman but will not vote for Azz.

Why?

Dr Azz has been with the World Economic Forum since 1999 and was named a “future leader” by the WEF in 2012.

Dr Azz wrote a paper for the WEF about the need for socialized medicine to create the future human.

Dr Azz supports assault weapon bans, red flag laws, grooming your children and transsexual (genital) mutilation of minors.

Dr Azz supported Biden’s Veteran bill and praised China’s handling of Covid, including lock downs, masking and forced vaccination.

There is much more, but I have no candidate in this race and will not vote for either despicable nominee.


14 posted on 08/23/2022 10:15:42 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (We are being manipulated by forces that most do not see)
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15 posted on 08/23/2022 10:16:10 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Fox News is CNN-Lite.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

RE: Btw, Oz is on record saying he won’t vote for McConnell.

Well,that explains the lackluster support he’s getting from the RNC.


16 posted on 08/23/2022 10:19:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Fresh Wind

he’s like a Frankenstein, people actually like him?


17 posted on 08/23/2022 10:20:09 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: ConservativeInPA

Richard Jewell’s lawyer probably convinced a lot to stay home.


18 posted on 08/23/2022 10:21:41 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14/12 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15/12 - 1030am - Obama team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Drew68

“Oz just needs to light a fire under his ass and get his message out there.”

I’m so sick of people saying this when Oz has been all over PA like a mustard plaster, campaigning everywhere. The Oz hatred has got to stop and everyone has to get going and support Oz on social media, political sites and especially by voters in PA. We stand to lose so much if the in poor health socialist wins this race and Pubs in particular have to figure this out. It’s not playtime anymore. This is a dead serious race with dead serious repercussions. Candidate perfection doesn’t exist. Live with it.

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19 posted on 08/23/2022 10:22:34 AM PDT by flaglady47
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To: pepsionice
The biggest thing Oz had in his favor in the GOP primary was that he was an outsider with no connections to the inept and corrupt state Republican Party establishment.

What you have are two guys who should both be TV reality hosts....nothing more.

Think of this in the context of what I posted above. Sounds like he same things I would have said about Donald Trump in 2016.

20 posted on 08/23/2022 10:24:04 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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