Posted on 12/20/2022 5:42:52 AM PST by RandFan
Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) is endorsing the Electoral Count Reform Act as necessary to save the Electoral College, saying on Monday the system needs to be reformed so it will not be abolished.
Paul said in an op-ed in The Louisville Courier-Journal that recent elections have shown flaws in Congress’s role with the Electoral College, leaving the vice president’s role in counting the votes ambiguous and allowing one member of the House and Senate to object to counting a state’s votes.
He said both political parties have exploited these issues to cause “political theater.”
“In 2021, the theater act went too far and culminated in a mob disrupting the joint session of Congress to certify the presidential election,” Paul said.
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Paul said conservatives should realize that the legislation is necessary to protect the Electoral College from left-wing attempts to abandon it. He noted comments from former presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) supporting the abolition of the Electoral College and moving to elect a president by popular vote
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What if it came out that, say, the voters selected someone completely on the payroll and controlled by a foreign enemy, like say China, and this was exposed and the electors were the only protection against a stooge totally under the control of foreign powers, globalists, and Satanists, and that ‘ceremonial vote as elector’ was the only way to save the United States of America?
Just asking...
Every time someone in DC says they are going to pass a law to do something, it usually does the opposite of what it’s named.
I don’t trust it. Not even from Rand Paul.
You can’t pass a law to protect the electoral college when someone else can just pass another law to undo it or worse. The only way to protect something is to write it into the constitution with an amendment and hope the courts actually do their job and protect it.
How many covid spending bills did he either support or just vote not present for.
Trust, the founders or a life long politician. Golly gee, that’s a hard one.
Let them abolish it, if they dare.
This reeks of kabuki theater.
The Special Session is the single opportunity for the Congress to consider, debate, accept or reject (but not overturn!!) federal election irregularities.
Raising the threshold calls of objection from 1 member of each chamber to 1/5th of each chamber in order to formally consider as a body any such irregularities would seem to make it more difficult to even begin to deliberate the matter.
RP didn’t object in 2020. What did we exploit? He also voted against Trump’s wall.
Any law passed I’m 2022 by a “Bipartisan” group of Senators and a hard left House is going to be a disaster. Imagine what a second amendment law would look like under those circumstances. What makes anyone think an election law would be any different? Incredible how docile the country has become
Without the Electoral College, there would be no United States Constitution and no United States.
The low population states and several of the slave states would never have signed a Constitution without the Electoral College.
You would need an amendment to get rid of the electoral college but I think Libs could get around the electoral college by having SOME states divide their electoral votes. Obviously they would not want NY and California to do that but any Red State they would welcome it.
Just answering: you impeach the guy
No matter what “law” is passed, if the authority to have the VP act in a certain way is in the Constitution, they will need an amendment to change that face. The Electoral Count Act is unconstitutional on its face, but no one has achieved a SCOTUS ruling in regards to the act.
I disagree.
On the Right, I think it is closer to political hopelessness.
After Bush & McCain tried to push Amnesty down our throats in 2005, I became one of the best informed and most passionate opponents of mass immigration in the entire country.
I completely gave up after Trump's first two years.
I would describe my current attitude as closer and closer to "Every man for himself."
Vote by county. Most votes in the county gets 1 point. Most points wins the states electoral votes. By doing this, you isolate voter fraud to a single entity, which is the county. Now investigators can focus on fraud at the local level, a lot easier than doing it at the state or federal level.
Do this also for senatorial campaigns and leave congressional campaigns as is.
Endorsing the Electoral Count Reform Act as necessary to save the Electoral College.
If not the democrat calamity will grow even bigger.
The Electoral College is blocking their path to kill liberty.
State level electoral colleges, if constitutional would resolve population centers from controlling the outcome of literally the entire state during state and federal elections.
There are a number of states where the population centers have disenfranchised state voters for decades.
It also implies you can alter the Constitution absent an amendment. So it’s a mistake.
But good point about the laws having opposite effects.
Reduce Inflation Act = more inflation.
Anything to do with immigration reform = problem is worse as it is a green light to enter the country.
Yes. It is just like: "I'm here from the Government and I'm here to help you."
The January 6th certification of the presidential election results is NOT the proper place to consider, debate, etc. any election irregularities -- except (maybe) in cases where multiple slates of electors are submitted for any states.
The time to fix any election problems is BEFORE the electoral votes are certified in mid-December, not afterward.
It is interesting that you regard a statute that has survived close examination by legal experts for many decades as blatantly unconstitutional, but then your attitude is likely shaped by the views of the day.
Some here may challenge your view of how "multiple slates of electors" can be different than slates of electors created illegally in defiance of state constitutions or statutes, but I am not.
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