Posted on 11/07/2001 4:14:46 AM PST by Starmaker
"L.I.E.," an NC-17 film released in theaters last week has been getting rave reviews from film critics and homosexuals. The film just won two awards at the Los Angeles Gay and Lesbian Film Festival (also known as the "Outfest"): The Grand Jury Award for OUTstanding American Narrative Feature and tied for the Grand Jury Award for OUTstanding Actor, giving the award to Paul Franklin Dano, the young boy who is pursued by a middle-aged child molester.
Michael Cuesta is the director of the film and wrote the screenplay with Stephen Ryder and his brother Gerald Cuesta. The film was produced by Lot 47 Films in association with Alter Ego/Belladonna. (Belladonna provides production services for European commercial, music video, and TV production companies. They have done work for AT&T and American Express, plus music videos for groups like N'Sync, and KRS-One.) Lot 47 Films co-owner Jeff Lipsky helped distribute "Lolita" when he was with the Samuel Goldwyn Company.
"L.I.E.," which stands for Long Island Expressway, tells a sympathetic story of Howie, a 15-year-old boy who is pursued by Big John Harrigan, a former Marine and child molester. Harrigan is played by British actor Brian Cox.
Film critic Rex Reed, writing in "The New York Observer," says, ".Resist all temptations to avoid this exceptional film because of its subject matter (pedophilia) and see 'L.I.E.' fast. Trust me on this. You will experience one of the most profoundly moving motion pictures this year."
"Guide" magazine, a mainstream homosexual publication has criticized the Motional Picture Association of America (MPAA) for giving this film an NC-17 rating. A "Guide" editorialist noted that "'L.I.E.' is being muzzled because it suggests that the relationship between an adult man and a teenage boy, a relationship first sparked by sexual interest but never consummated, need not be monstrous."
"Guide" continues: "That a boylover might have an interest in a boy that transcends sex, that he might act responsibly, that he might provide the love missing in an adolescent's life, that he might be something other than the predatory monster everywhere else depicted-these are the ideas that so offend the MPAA." ("Guide" magazine employs as its feature editor Bill Andriette, the former editor of the North American Man-Boy Love Association [NAMBLA] Bulletin.)
One of "L.I.E's" screenwriters is Stephen Ryder, who teaches writing at New York University. Ryder was recently asked in an Internet interview how he managed to make the child molester character so charming. He replied, "That was my plan [laughter]-My evil plan." Ryder then explains that he considers the relationship between Big John and Howie to be "consensual" and that men like Big John are "just regular ordinary non-felonious people."
Big John is the most likable character in the movie. He is both cultured and patriotic. Howie's father is a womanizer who ignores the boy. Howie's best friend is a sociopathic male prostitute and another friend is having an incestuous relationship with his sister. Howie and his friends spent their leisure time robbing houses and discussing sex acts. Big John comes along and "helps" Howie when his life falls apart.
"L.I.E." is an infomercial for NAMBLA, and homosexuals and "sophisticated" film critics are applauding it. This film will undoubtedly give encouragement to homosexual child molesters who will readily identify with Big John Harrigan as he pursues his sexual prey. By mainstreaming pedophilia through films like "Lolita" and "L.I.E." Lot 47 Films owners are helping to contribute to our culture's rising levels of child abuse and molestation.
The director, screenwriters, actors, and the production company all share the guilt for producing a film that portrays pedophilia in a sympathetic light. This effort is also being aided and abetted by homosexual film groups and by mainstream homosexual magazines that obviously favor the sexual seduction of boys.
Step-by-step, homosexual activists are softening up public opinion on the issue of adult/child sex, which is euphemistically referred to in their publications as "intergenerational intimacy." We are unaware of any mainstream homosexual group condemning this film. Will PFLAG (Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays) condemn this? Will GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network) teachers and parents condemn it?
When will the homosexual/pedophile assault against children stop? It will only stop when the public becomes outraged enough to put an end to homosexual recruitment programs in our public schools and when our legislators have the courage to say "No!" to the homosexual agenda. When will this happen? That is up to you.
This, while it's probably literally true, is a deliberate attempt to deceive. One could just as correctly say there are far more heterosexuals than homosexuals who are geniuses, persons of exemplary virtue, talented musicians, and heroes.
Oh, now THATs comforting...
Maybe that's because (thankfully) there are MANY more heterosexuals. I would be curious to see an unbisased study comparing the PERCENTAGE of pedophiliacs in the heterosexual population as compared with the homosexual population. I think you would be ducking for cover when the results were released.
What is age of consent in US?, here in UK it was recently lowered to 16 for males = to females. Here a 16 yr old boy can't drive a car, motorbike, take out credit, fight for his country, drink alcohol in a bar but he can consent to be buggered by a Labour MP.There is a wide choice.
Some of Bomber Blair's best friends are Horizontal Gardeners.
It is time for PC to be diced and discarded, and Americans to act like the damn sovereigns they are responsible to be.
There is nothing 'normal' about deviancy ... it is a contradiction of order to try and create such a deviant malignancy in the language!... And is the hallmark of the homosexual crowd that they seek to 'corporate' such malignancies throughout this nation's society, at every level, and contrary to the safety of the society itself, for deviancy is the most easily manipulated by enemies of this nation.
How insulting was the recent attempt by the deviants to glorify the acts of one or more Americans on downed flights or in rescues of 9/11 by pointing to their sexual proclivities as if that was their defining nature! The acts of heroism were the more demeaned by the deviant community exploiting the sexuality over the heroism! THAT is typical of the deviant population. Why doesn't the Andrew Sullivan crowd address the outrage, from that perspective, the exploitation of heroic acts by human beings in order to promote homosexuality rather than praise the dead heroes, instead of pointing to the sexual proclivities as superior in note to the acts of heroism?
email them here:mailto:trailers@mac.com
BARF!!
(Anyway, thanks for the ping)
No. If you'd kill off all the homosexuals, you would not put a significant dent in pedophilia.
Therefore it is clear your motivation is not to stop pedophilia, but to kill off homosexuals.
Be honest for a change.
An excerpt from "Pedophilia Chic" Reconsidered - The taboo against sex with children continues to erode By Mary Eberstadt:
"...For elsewhere in the public square, the defense of adult-child sex—more accurately, man-boy sex—is now out in the open. Moreover, it is on parade in a number of places—therapeutic, literary, and academic circles; mainstream publishing houses and journals and magazines and bookstores—where the mere appearance of such ideas would until recently have been not only unthinkable, but in many cases, subject to prosecution...
...Plainly, as the record even then showed, a surprising number of voices were willing to rise up on behalf of what advocates refer to as "man-boy love," or what most people call sexual abuse..."
For one thing, no sustained public challenges have arisen over other primal taboos. Even more telling, if nihilism and nihilism alone were the explanation for public attempts to legitimize sex with boy children, then we would expect the appearance of related attempts to legitimize sex with girl children; and these we manifestly do not see. Nobody, but nobody, has been allowed to make the case for girl pedophilia with the backing of any reputable institution. Publishing houses are not putting out acclaimed anthologies and works of fiction that include excerpts of men having sex with young girls. Psychologists and psychiatrists are not competing with each other to publish studies demonstrating that the sexual abuse of girls is inconsequential; or, indeed, that it ought not even be defined as "abuse."
Two examples from the last few weeks will suffice to show the double standard here. In the November 12 New York Times Book Review, a writer found it unremarkable to observe of his subject, biographer Gavin Lambert, that when "Lambert was a schoolboy of 11, a teacher initiated him [into homosexuality], and he 'felt no shame or fear, only gratitude.'" It is unimaginable that New York Times editors would allow a reviewer to describe an 11-year-old girl being sexually "initiated" by any adult (in that case, "initiation" would be called "sexual abuse"). Similarly, in mid-December the New York Times Magazine delivered a cover piece about gay teenagers in cyberspace which was so blasé about the older men who seek out boys in chat rooms that it dismissed those potential predators as mere "oldies." Again, one can only imagine the public outcry had the same magazine published a story taking the same so-what approach to online solicitation, off-line trysts, and pornography "sharing" between anonymous men and underage girls.
No: As was true four years ago, contemporary efforts to rationalize, legitimize, and justify pedophilia are about boys. Forget about abstractions like nihilism; what the record shows is something more prosaic. The reason why the public is being urged to reconsider boy pedophilia is that this "question," settled though it may be in the opinions and laws of the rest of the country, is demonstrably not yet settled within certain parts of the gay rights movement...
"...For shocking though it may have been to the general public, "Meta-Analytic" was in fact only the latest in a very long series of professional attempts to revise therapeutic conceptions of boy pedophilia, attempts of which most lay readers remain quite ignorant.
Professionals in the field know better. Fifteen years ago, for example, in his careful research volume Child Sexual Abuse, noted authority David Finkelhor was already drawing attention to the "body of opinion and research [that] has emerged in recent years which is trying hard to vindicate homosexual pedophilia."
One book only recently available in the "gay studies" section of a Borders in downtown D.C., for example, is a peculiar classic of a sort entitled Male Inter-Generational Intimacy: Historical, Socio-Psychological, and Legal Perspectives, edited by the aforementioned pedophile icon Edward Brongersma and two colleagues. This book, according to one of its jacket endorsements, "shed[s] critical light on the broad spectrum of man-boy love and its place in ancient and contemporary societies." In other words, it is a series of briefs using scientistic polemics in an effort to rationalize the sexual molestation of boy children.
...What gives XY its unprecedented niche is that here, for the first time, is a mass-market magazine "officially targeted toward 12-29 year old young gay men," every issue of which, as one admiring journalist puts it, "features scantily clad young men in several photo spreads and on the cover." Then there is the non-photo content. The first issue was stamped "Underage." Another issue included a sympathetic pro-and-con interview with a prominent member of NAMBLA. An article in another issue was titled "F— the Age of Consent." There is also a smattering of self-help that can only make minors easier to find—for example, advice about what kids should do if their parents install a filtering system that prevents them from reaching gay cyberspace (answer: get around it).
...A few proclaim boys to be sexual fair game. Influential others disavow pedophilia per se, but tolerate its advocacy on grounds of political solidarity with persecuted groups. Still others, in the relatively new development noted earlier, appear to have opted for a kind of anti-anti-pedophilia, according to which the "real" problems for the movement are somehow Dr. Laura and the religious right, rather than the facts to which such critics draw attention: e.g., that efforts are being made to destigmatize the sexual exploitation of boy children; or that positive portrayals of "inter-generational sex," which are extremely rare in the rest of the culture, are not rare in gay literature and journalism...
I ask you, can Kevin Spacey be a good person, deep down, if he uses his considerable talents to glorify such deviancy which that movie promotes as 'the real America'? I don't think so.
From Reply # 167 in the message thread The Great "Gay" Racket [Free Republic]:
** "Homosexuals are the only self-identified group in the world to openly advocate pedophilia. Can you find me 12 publications from any other self-identifying group that supports pedophilia?
Gay Community News, Vol 4, #5, June 1982, asked; "How do you go about beating Anti-Pedophile attitudes"?
Gay magazine "Outrage" carried articles relating to Pedophilia in two thirds of its publications between April 1983 and July 1984.
The Journal of Homosexuality, 1987 published an article called; "Pedophilia and the Gay movement" detailing Homosexual efforts to end oppression of Pedophiles.
Gay Rights Group COC (Holland) in 1980 adopted the position that the Liberation of Pedophilia must be viewed as a Gay issue.
Gay Magazine "Outrage" Australia, May 1984 declared its editorial position on Pedophilia as "One of defence of the Civil Liberties of Pedophiles and alleged Pedophiles, and of the Right of Pedophiles to make their case in the Gay media".
The Gay Manifesto, London 1989 Calls for recognition of "Inter-generational" sex .
The Gay "Relationships" book by Charles Silverstein "Man to Man" says "Man/Boy love experiences (pedophilia) occurs too frequently to be ignored". He devoted a chapter to; "Love between the generations".
Lesbian book "Saphistry" says; "Lesbians feel it is not uncommon for an affectionate relationship between a child and an adult, since sexual desire can exist in children as well as adults"
"Sex between men and boys is the foundation of homosexuality." - 1992 editorial in The Sentinel, San Francisco's major pro-gay publication
Homosexual leaders blatantly voice tolerance for child sex abuse. A prominent gay magazine, Out, quoted Damien Martin, the head of New York’s homosexual Harvey Milk High School, as saying, "No kid has ever been hurt by [oral sex]" in September, 1994 on page 73.
The leading gay publication, The Advocate, in an article titled Getting Over It pondered on May 5, 1992 about how many boys "would have missed out on a valuable, liberating experience—one that initiated them into their sexuality—if it weren’t for so-called molestation?"
The nation’s largest gay publicist, Alyson Publications of Boston, which distributes Daddy’s Roommate and other homosexual books for kids, published Paedophilia: The Radical Case, hundreds of pages of why and how seven year old boys should be brought to climax. Another Alyson book, The Age Taboo on page 144 insists: "Boy-lovers... are not child molesters. The child abusers are... parents who force their staid morality onto the young people in their custody." **
Pedophiles Argue Their Case in the Journal of Homosexuality
More on the Pedophilia Question
On Positive Reports of Adult-Child Relationships: Taking a Closer Look
On the Pedophilia Issue: What the APA Should Have Known
Is Pedophilia Really Being Normalized?
From the North American Man/Boy Love Association - Actual NAMBLA Brochure
An excerpt from "Pedophilia Chic" Reconsidered - The taboo against sex with children continues to erode By Mary Eberstadt:
"...For elsewhere in the public square, the defense of adult-child sex—more accurately, man-boy sex—is now out in the open. Moreover, it is on parade in a number of places—therapeutic, literary, and academic circles; mainstream publishing houses and journals and magazines and bookstores—where the mere appearance of such ideas would until recently have been not only unthinkable, but in many cases, subject to prosecution...
...Plainly, as the record even then showed, a surprising number of voices were willing to rise up on behalf of what advocates refer to as "man-boy love," or what most people call sexual abuse..."
For one thing, no sustained public challenges have arisen over other primal taboos. Even more telling, if nihilism and nihilism alone were the explanation for public attempts to legitimize sex with boy children, then we would expect the appearance of related attempts to legitimize sex with girl children; and these we manifestly do not see. Nobody, but nobody, has been allowed to make the case for girl pedophilia with the backing of any reputable institution. Publishing houses are not putting out acclaimed anthologies and works of fiction that include excerpts of men having sex with young girls. Psychologists and psychiatrists are not competing with each other to publish studies demonstrating that the sexual abuse of girls is inconsequential; or, indeed, that it ought not even be defined as "abuse."
Two examples from the last few weeks will suffice to show the double standard here. In the November 12 New York Times Book Review, a writer found it unremarkable to observe of his subject, biographer Gavin Lambert, that when "Lambert was a schoolboy of 11, a teacher initiated him [into homosexuality], and he 'felt no shame or fear, only gratitude.'" It is unimaginable that New York Times editors would allow a reviewer to describe an 11-year-old girl being sexually "initiated" by any adult (in that case, "initiation" would be called "sexual abuse"). Similarly, in mid-December the New York Times Magazine delivered a cover piece about gay teenagers in cyberspace which was so blasé about the older men who seek out boys in chat rooms that it dismissed those potential predators as mere "oldies." Again, one can only imagine the public outcry had the same magazine published a story taking the same so-what approach to online solicitation, off-line trysts, and pornography "sharing" between anonymous men and underage girls.
No: As was true four years ago, contemporary efforts to rationalize, legitimize, and justify pedophilia are about boys. Forget about abstractions like nihilism; what the record shows is something more prosaic. The reason why the public is being urged to reconsider boy pedophilia is that this "question," settled though it may be in the opinions and laws of the rest of the country, is demonstrably not yet settled within certain parts of the gay rights movement...
"...For shocking though it may have been to the general public, "Meta-Analytic" was in fact only the latest in a very long series of professional attempts to revise therapeutic conceptions of boy pedophilia, attempts of which most lay readers remain quite ignorant.
Professionals in the field know better. Fifteen years ago, for example, in his careful research volume Child Sexual Abuse, noted authority David Finkelhor was already drawing attention to the "body of opinion and research [that] has emerged in recent years which is trying hard to vindicate homosexual pedophilia."
One book only recently available in the "gay studies" section of a Borders in downtown D.C., for example, is a peculiar classic of a sort entitled Male Inter-Generational Intimacy: Historical, Socio-Psychological, and Legal Perspectives, edited by the aforementioned pedophile icon Edward Brongersma and two colleagues. This book, according to one of its jacket endorsements, "shed[s] critical light on the broad spectrum of man-boy love and its place in ancient and contemporary societies." In other words, it is a series of briefs using scientistic polemics in an effort to rationalize the sexual molestation of boy children.
...What gives XY its unprecedented niche is that here, for the first time, is a mass-market magazine "officially targeted toward 12-29 year old young gay men," every issue of which, as one admiring journalist puts it, "features scantily clad young men in several photo spreads and on the cover." Then there is the non-photo content. The first issue was stamped "Underage." Another issue included a sympathetic pro-and-con interview with a prominent member of NAMBLA. An article in another issue was titled "F— the Age of Consent." There is also a smattering of self-help that can only make minors easier to find—for example, advice about what kids should do if their parents install a filtering system that prevents them from reaching gay cyberspace (answer: get around it).
...A few proclaim boys to be sexual fair game. Influential others disavow pedophilia per se, but tolerate its advocacy on grounds of political solidarity with persecuted groups. Still others, in the relatively new development noted earlier, appear to have opted for a kind of anti-anti-pedophilia, according to which the "real" problems for the movement are somehow Dr. Laura and the religious right, rather than the facts to which such critics draw attention: e.g., that efforts are being made to destigmatize the sexual exploitation of boy children; or that positive portrayals of "inter-generational sex," which are extremely rare in the rest of the culture, are not rare in gay literature and journalism...
An excerpt from: "Will Pedophilia Be Next In Massachusetts Schools? 'Child Molestation' Is Being 'Normalized'" by J. Edward Pawlick, Publisher, Massachusetts News:
"The Boston Phoenix is a leading advocate of pedophilia in Massachusetts. A popular columnist for the Phoenix, Michael Bronski, wrote in March 1999 that the concern about protecting our children is only "gay-bashing." He said that the concern about pedophilia is "simply the latest in a series of ongoing attacks on gay people and gay rights that use the protection of children as a cover for homophobia."
But Bronski let the-cat-out-of-the-bag in the last paragraph of his article when he repeated the canard that children are "empowered" and have "autonomy" when they have the ability to have sex with adults. He wrote, "Gay-bashing under the guise of child protection will never go away until we as a culture can discuss the lives and needs of children openly and honestly — and include recognition of their sexuality, freedom, and autonomy." [emphasis added] In his world, a child who is twelve years, or even younger, will be allowed to decide when or where he will have sex. This is exactly what the pedophiles wish because it will totally empower them...
Up until 1990, NAMBLA was a fringe element in the homosexual movement.
Then the Journal of Homosexuality published a special double issue devoted to the subject. We began to hear the same arguments from adult pedophiles that we hear from homosexuals: "I was born that way."
"I can't change."
One article in the special issue said that parents should look upon a pedophile who loves their son "not as a rival or competitor, not as a thief of their property, but as a partner in the boy's upbringing, someone to be welcomed into their home..." A professor of social science at the State University of New York said he looks forward to the day when Americans will "get over their hysteria about child abuse."
One of the authors of the article in the Journal of Homosexuality is also an author in the new APA study.
The pre-homosexual boy is discussed by NARTH on its website. "When this lonely boy receives flattering attention from an older male, then a link is established between love and homoerotic sex. The boy comes to believe, 'If I want love from men, I must have sex with them.' Thus the normal and natural developmental need of same-sex love and approval has become eroticized. The boy may then develop a compulsive, promiscuous sexual habit pattern, which in gay life is seen fairly frequently...
The Children of Massachusetts
The citizens of Massachusetts will soon have to decide whether or not they approve of pedophilia. It will soon be fashionable.
Meanwhile, we are operating on an outdated belief in our schools that there is a "gay gene." Therefore, if any child exhibits any interest in homosexuality, we say, "Oh, you were born to be a homosexual. Go join that Gay/Straight Alliance and he'll teach you how."
The "Fact Sheet" from the American Psychiatric Association says, "Some [pedophiles] develop complicated techniques for gaining access to children. They may select a job, hobby or volunteer work that brings them into contact with children."
The perfect place for a pedophile to find them in Massachusetts would be working with a Gay- Straight Alliance in one of our schools."
Reply # 58 in the message thread Author Admits Gay Propaganda in Kids' Book [Free Republic]
"Recommended Reading for Teenagers? A Closer Look at P-FLAG":
The Massachusetts News Fistgate Archive
Listen to the Fistgate Tape Online
HOW TO PROTECT YOUR CHILDREN FROM PRO-HOMOSEXUALITY PROPAGANDA IN SCHOOLS
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.