The White Van - Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies?

ABCNEWS.com ^

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*'Plenty of Speculation'

There always is among the black helicopter set. o-;

[keithtoo]

Its on 20/20 right now.

[Michael2001]

The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said. What struck Maria were the expressions on the men's faces. "They were like happy, you know … They didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange," she said.

For spies this doesn't sound very professional.

[Imal]

There have been some strange blips regarding Israeli involvement in WTC and other incidents, but rarely anything conclusive: even the Pollard case still swarms with unknowns. This Urban Moving outfit does seem pretty fishy, and the behavior of the guys in the van is suspicious, to say the least.

However, I think it's important to keep some perspective. For example, what is so damned surprising about moving company employees having box cutters? They work with BOXES, fer crying out loud!

The possible Israeli intelligence connections are tantalizing, but virtually everything related to that is attributed to unnamed sources. A more descriptive term is "unreliable and uncorroborated sources", because if ABC actually had anything that could be verified, I doubt they would leave it out of this bloated piece.

Hopefully we'll see some better investigative technique on this and less unfounded "sources tell ABCNEWS" innuendo, speculation and sensationalism, which not only suggest tabloid-quality journalism, but also indicate a low signal-to-noise ratio in this article.

Imal

[LarryLied]

Not nice of the Israelis to laugh and joke as they watched thousands of Americans die as the World Trade Center collapsed into rubble.

[rastus macgill]

Boys will be boys as ABC news concluded only the boys were illegal aliens and Mossad agents.Seems Palestinean children weren't the only ones celebrating the atrocity

[LarryLied]

Wasn't impressed by the boys going on Israeli TV and complaining about the treatment they received in America either. Nor their not being fully cooperative with the FBI.

[mgstarr]

I knew it had to be ZOG and the International Jewish Conspiracy - it always is.

Thanks for more Pro-American posts.

[Bella]

Our purpose was to document the event."

This statement says it all as to WHY they were there as in the last paragraph of the transcript. Document the event, they KNEW.

[luvzhottea]

America needs to defend itself against spies and those who have a history of doing harm to America whether radical Islamists or Israel.

Israeli 'art students' suspected of spying in S. Florida
http://www.freerepublic.com/fo cus/news/642542/posts

Also see the original FOX NEWS EXPOSE:
Fox News Series on Israeli Spying in the US
http://www.firefox.1accesshost .com/cameron.html

[sheik yerbouty]

This has been debunked many times, yet you keep posting it. I'll have to reach for the Reynolds extra strength!

[mgstarr]

Ping.

[LarryLied]

I doubt they had specific knowledge. But all the intelligence agencies seem to have known something big was about to occur. Whatever the case, the Israeli reaction to 9/11 was cold hearted from the time of the attack. It was all about them. How it would affect them. What they could get out of it. We can see it today, they are still trying to push us around. They have people in their own government complaining about what Sharon is doing and all we hear it how everything is America's fault, Bush won't let Israel defend herself, Powell is a wimp and on and on and on.

[luvzhottea]

USS LIBERTY, POLLARD, etc all "tinfoil hat" stuff to certain people.

[mgstarr]

Facts and logic can be inconvenient to certain people's agenda.

[mrustow]

But no one has been able to find a good explanation for why they may have been smiling with the towers of the World Trade Center burning in the background. Both the lawyers for the young men and the Israeli Embassy chalk it up to immature conduct.

Let's see the videotape. This woman's story has been repeated ad nauseam, but I've never seen the notorious videotape. The main reason the story has been rpeated is that anti-Semites -- most notoriously Justin Raimondo -- and neo-Nazis (pardon the redundancy) -- have worked feverishly since 911, spreading the Arab blood libel, that claimed that the Jews did it!

See:

"The Jews Did It!" Anatomy of a Blood Libel

[LarryLied]

This has been debunked many times, yet you ( RCW2001)keep posting it. I'll have to reach for the Reynolds extra strength!

What is that all about? Did you read the article? This was on 20/20 tonight. It has not been reposted. What has been debunked? I saw several things confirmed: At least two of the five were most likely Mossad. The Israeli's were smiling as the WTC came crashing down. The moving company did pack up in a hurry. All the things those who mock this story said were not true several months ago, are true.

[luvzhottea]

The Israeli's were smiling as the WTC came crashing down.

Heck that's ok they are our "allies"

[Bella]

What is that all about? Did you read the article? This was on 20/20 tonight. It has not been reposted. What has been debunked? I saw several things confirmed: At least two of the five were most likely Mossad. The Israeli's were smiling as the WTC came crashing down. The moving company did pack up in a hurry. All the things those who mock this story said were not true several months ago, are true.

Exactly right Larry...I wrote her about this, let's SEE if she writes me back, or, if the email is read on the air next week.