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The White Van - Were Israelis Detained on Sept. 11 Spies?
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Posted on 06/21/2002 6:42:36 PM PDT by RCW2001

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To: mrustow
The main reason the story has been repeated is that anti-Semites...

No, the reason it is repeated so often is that the absolute denial of Israeli partisans is so transparently false curiosity is piqued. When people scurry down the Identity Politics rathole and start charging "antisemitism" you know something is there.

America was brutally attacked and these Israelis did not cooperate fully with US law enforcement. That tells you all you need to know there.

Trying to disparage the lady who saw the Israelis smiling is pathetic. She had zero motive to make that up. She had no idea who they were when she called the police. She should be praised for being observant and not afraid to get involved.

But you want us to believe she is not credible and the 5 Israelis who hightailed it out of the country leaving behind a going business are credible.

21 posted on 06/21/2002 9:29:32 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Bella
Wasn't that funny when the intelligence guy said the Israelis "probably" had no advance knowledge of 9/11 and then Barbara Walters said the Israelis "had no" advance knowledge. This story shook her up bad. The Israeli apologists have gone from denying most of this happened to admiting it happened but it doesn't mean Israel knew anything in advance.
22 posted on 06/21/2002 9:34:59 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: luvzhottea; LarryLied; RCW2001
Gad. The urban myth that will not die!!

And 5 Israelis "laughed" on 9-11 (maybe) THOUSANDS of Arabs laughed, celebrated etc.

23 posted on 06/21/2002 9:40:54 PM PDT by scratchgolfer
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To: LarryLied
Not nice of the Israelis to laugh and joke as they watched thousands of Americans die as the World Trade Center collapsed into rubble.

Indeed, if they actually did so, I would support stoning them to death. However, all we have here is a report from a woman ("Maria, who asked us not to use her last name") watching them from a distance through binoculars, saying it looked like they were "happy", which is not as straightforward as the TV footage of dancing Arabs we were treated to.

Perhaps we should have a look at the video they shot. That would provide a very clear idea of what they were saying and how they were behaving. But then, we might risk have our opinions clouded by actual facts, which are conspicuously hard to find in this article.

Imal

24 posted on 06/21/2002 9:44:15 PM PDT by Imal
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To: mrustow
You have five minutes to retract your statement that I am an anti-Semite, or face legal action.
25 posted on 06/21/2002 9:48:51 PM PDT by Justin Raimondo
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To: Michael2001
For spies this doesn't sound very professional.

Neither did the Israeli spies that here in the USA posing as " art" students".

26 posted on 06/21/2002 9:50:17 PM PDT by DreamWeaver
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To: mrustow
4 minutes .....
27 posted on 06/21/2002 9:51:02 PM PDT by Justin Raimondo
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To: mrustow
3 minutes.... I take it you are rifling through the Yellow Pages, under "L" -- for "lawyer."
29 posted on 06/21/2002 9:54:52 PM PDT by Justin Raimondo
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To: RCW2001
Any update on the grassy knoll thing? <;
30 posted on 06/21/2002 9:55:08 PM PDT by vance
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To: luvzhottea
America needs to defend itself the spies and those who have a history of doing harm to America whether radical Islamists or Israel.

And America needs to defend herself against the Fifth Columnists among her own citizens, some of whom call themselves "conservatives," or claim to support America First.

31 posted on 06/21/2002 9:55:49 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: DreamWeaver
>Neither did the Israeli spies that here in the USA posing as " art" students".

Thanks. The grassy knoll update.

32 posted on 06/21/2002 9:56:53 PM PDT by vance
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To: Imal
This can be lawyered to death but I prefer to use common sense. Something is definitely amiss. Our government sure thought so. Israelis are allies and they have juice. We don't hold Israelis for almost 3 months for no good reason. We're not dealing with Abdullah Ibn Abbas types from Karwackostan
33 posted on 06/21/2002 9:59:30 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: mrustow
You are going to lose, Mr. Fifth Columnist. Check out ABC News, bud -- the real traitors are being exposed, now, for all America to see. And it sure ain't pretty. Now pardon me, while I settle down, switch on "20/20," and enjoy the show....
34 posted on 06/21/2002 10:00:08 PM PDT by Justin Raimondo
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To: Imal
You want to "stone them to death"? With what -- some really good Maui Zowie?
35 posted on 06/21/2002 10:04:13 PM PDT by Justin Raimondo
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To: vance
Any update on the grassy knoll thing? <;

Grassy knoll stuff.?Then why have the following outlets published the story:

  1. Fox News (center right)

  2. ABC News (left)

  3. The Washington Times (conservative)

  4. The Forward (Jewish left)

  5. Insight Magazine (conservative)

  6. Janes Intelligence Review (non-partisan)


36 posted on 06/21/2002 10:09:38 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: Justin Raimondo
You have five minutes to retract your statement that I am an anti-Semite, or face legal action.

Not only are you an anti-Semite, but you are such a notorious Jew-hater that I find it laughable that you would try legal imtimidation -- but then so did your buddy, David Irving. For you to sue anyone for defamation for having identified you as an anti-Semite, would be on a par with Irving's lawsuit, not to mention Oscar Wilde's defamation lawsuit against the man who ientified him as a homosexual. And we know how those suits turned out.

I don't get you -- you hate Jews, but you don't want anyone pointing out the obvious. Meanwhile, while you demand delicate restraint from your critics, you publish Nazi conspiracy rants against the Jews.

My calling you an anti-Semite is the least of what I'd like to say to you, because JimRob or the Moderator would delete my post for obscenity, but based on your legally baseless attempt to silence me, I don't think they'll have a problem with these additions: punk, thug, coward, bully, despicable rat ... (I won't call you a dog, because I love dogs.) I'll let you know if any other printable terms come to mind.

And you fancy yourself a journalist ...

37 posted on 06/21/2002 10:10:14 PM PDT by mrustow
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To: LarryLied
These five guys knew to be in the right spot and take pictures, so they knew an awful lot. I think most people fail to grasp the anthrax situation and how the Israeli Mossad might have been involved. The Israeli would love to have the U.S. turn anti-Arab and would use any incident to help further their cause. These five guys have something to hide. We should be on their tail and follow them.
38 posted on 06/21/2002 10:10:32 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice
This is a reoccuring problem with Israel. They always hunker down in the Clinton bunker and never come clean on anything. From the Lavon Affair to Pollard, there is always a shuck and a jive.

That causes people to suspect the worst. I have no idea what the real story is behind this. Something strange occurred. If they were Mossad and were trailing radical Muslims in America, why not just say so from the start? I think they would have been applauded for it with only minor tsk-tsking about spying in the USA.

But they act guilty. That is what keeps this going.

39 posted on 06/21/2002 10:18:32 PM PDT by LarryLied
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To: pepsionice
These five guys knew to be in the right spot and take pictures, so they knew an awful lot. I think most people fail to grasp the anthrax situation and how the Israeli Mossad might have been involved. The Israeli would love to have the U.S. turn anti-Arab and would use any incident to help further their cause. These five guys have something to hide. We should be on their tail and follow them.

All of the Jersey City's 200,000 residents "knew to be in the right spot" -- so why aren't they all "suspects"? Oh, I get it -- the rest aren't Jews!

Now you say the Jews are responsible for the anthrax attacks too. And the evidence "most people fail to grasp" would be what? Oh -- I get it -- the fact that the Jews are responsible for everything!

"Die Juden sind unser Unglueck."

National Socialist German Worker's Party, November, 1938.

40 posted on 06/21/2002 10:22:05 PM PDT by mrustow
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