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Gore Iraq Speech Could Galvanize Anti-War Forces - Zogby
Reuters ^ | September 24, 2002

Posted on 09/24/2002 1:50:31 PM PDT by Shermy

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A fierce attack on President Bush ( news - web sites)'s Iraq policy issued by former Vice President Al Gore ( news - web sites) could help galvanize U.S. opposition to a new Gulf war ( news - web sites) while serving as a launching pad for Gore's probable 2004 presidential campaign, analysts said on Tuesday.

In a speech in San Francisco, the defeated 2000 Democratic presidential nominee on Monday laid out a scathing critique of Bush's Iraq policy.

Pollster John Zogby said Gore's message was "very well timed."

"Gore stepped in just as it appeared that pro-war sentiment would go virtually unchallenged in Congress and in the country," Zogby said. "There will be an anti-war movement that grows out of this."

Democrats in the U.S. Congress, acutely aware the mid-term elections that will decide control of both houses of Congress are only six weeks away, have been wary of speaking out against Bush on Iraq. Their main tactic has been to try to change the subject to domestic issues but with scant success.

Bush has been pressing Congress to debate Iraq and endorse his policy within the next couple of weeks before lawmakers leave Washington for the election campaign rather than waiting until mid-November.

"Gore put forward some legitimate and substantive arguments which might make it possible for the country to have a real debate. That makes him stand out among the various potential Democratic presidential candidates," said Steven Wayne, a political scientist at Georgetown University.

Gore, who as a senator supported the 1991 Gulf War, laid out several objections to Bush's determination to remove President Saddam Hussein ( news - web sites) from power, if necessary by force and with the United States acting alone.

He said a war against Iraq distracted attention from the war against terrorism and the need to stabilize Afghanistan ( news - web sites). It also alienated and frightened U.S. allies, would cost billions of dollars and might leave Iraq so unstable and disorganized it would become even more dangerous to the United States.

'WORSE DANGER'

"The resulting chaos in the aftermath of a military victory with Iraq could easily pose a far greater danger to the United States than does Saddam," Gore said.

A number of analysts said on Tuesday the speech marked the beginning of Gore's quest for the presidency in 2004.

"He is asserting his leadership of the Democratic Party and kicking off his 2004 campaign. If the Iraq war does go sour, Gore will become the 'I told you so' guy and will look like a prophet," said American University historian Allan Lichtman.

Polls show the administration has made substantial progress in recent weeks in convincing Americans it was vital to rid the world of Saddam, who Bush says is developing weapons of mass destruction and backing international terrorism.

But only around 52 percent of Democrats support the war, leaving Gore giving a voice to a substantial constituency within his own party, many frustrated with the timidity of their congressional leaders.

"Gore is trying to present himself as the only Democrat with backbone and the guts to take on the president," said Tom DeLuca, a political scientist with Fordham University in New York.

When voters were asked if they would still support a war with Iraq if it involved substantial U.S. casualties and resulted in U.S. troops remaining as an occupying power for a substantial period of time, support fell well below 50 percent, according to Zogby.

Still, around 60 percent of Americans now seem to support the idea of toppling Saddam, even though they would prefer to see Bush secure United Nations ( news - web sites) backing and go into combat with some allies alongside him, polls show.

And all the war talk seems to have helped Bush and the Republicans in the buildup to the mid-term elections.

"The Bush administration has succeeded in shifting the debate from domestic issues where they are weak to Iraq and Republicans have benefited," said Democratic consultant and pollster Jennifer Laszlo.

"For instance, yesterday's news that the Nasdaq stock index hit a six-year low was pretty much buried by the president's latest comments on Iraq," she said.

Pollster Andrew Kohut of the Pew Research Center said Gore was taking a substantial political risk with the speech even if events proved him right.

He recalled that opponents to the Vietnam War did not fare well with voters even though that conflict turned into a disastrous defeat for the United States. At the height of the conflict, President Richard Nixon trounced dovish Democrat George McGovern in the 1972 presidential election.

"Gore is playing risky pool," Kohut said.


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To: Shermy; DaGman; drjimmy; Dave W; Gothmog; Redbob; Cicero; kim r.; Sonny M; lasereye
"Pollster John Zogby said Gore's message was "very well timed."

"Gore stepped in just as it appeared that pro-war sentiment would go virtually unchallenged in Congress and in the country," Zogby said. "There will be an anti-war movement that grows out of this."

PING to all those who say Zogby is just an un-biased polster!!

PING to all those who say his last poll was 2 YEARS ago, and who imply we don't hear anything more from Zogby than his polling results!!

PING to those who are "ON" to ZOGBY!!


21 posted on 09/24/2002 2:02:08 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Shermy; JohnHuang2; Miss Marple; PhiKapMom; Congressman Billybob; Poohbah; Howlin; Common Tator; ...
Oh, please, Mr. Gore, PLEASE don't make conduct of the war on terror an issue for the mid-term elections. PLEASE don't make that a part of the national debate prior to November 5th. PLEASE don't throw us in that briar patch...

Whoops... uh, too late now.
22 posted on 09/24/2002 2:02:22 PM PDT by hchutch
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To: Shermy
Whether Zogby's analysis is right or wrong, Gore is a scumbag. Why would we need to galvanize an anti-war movement at the very moment we are trying to deal with 9-11 and eliminate new threats to our country? If anyone with sense listens to these democrats, they realize there isn't a GD thing the democrats are proposing to do! The democrats long ago went down the road of damning the interests of this great country.
23 posted on 09/24/2002 2:02:51 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Williams
zogby is a scumbag.
24 posted on 09/24/2002 2:04:33 PM PDT by RolandBurnam
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To: Shermy
But...but...but...Zogby is the best pollster out there! He is TOTALLY non-partisan - he does not take sides!!! Anyway, that's what lots of people were saying yesterday. Zogby is a political hack that finds out on election day how much RAT fraud there is going to be and then releases final polls which include that fraud. He disgusts me! And so does his pro-terrorist brother that works directly for the RATS.
25 posted on 09/24/2002 2:04:45 PM PDT by Wait4Truth
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To: alancarp
The video clips were bad enough, but the audio by itself is just amazing.
26 posted on 09/24/2002 2:05:03 PM PDT by js1138
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To: lady lawyer
This is totally delusional and I predict a backlash against Algore and the anti-American movement. The reason I come to this conclusion is that the left has made predictions like; Afghanistan will be another Vietnam, the arab street will rise against us, and that the USA will fail if they act unilaterally, and not a single prediction has come true. Not a one. These people are not on the same planet as us. They are totally devoid of reality.
27 posted on 09/24/2002 2:05:42 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: hchutch
Good post, hutch. Gore is selfish and self-absorbed. He is selling his party down the river for the midterms just to outflank his leftist opponents for 2004....
28 posted on 09/24/2002 2:05:43 PM PDT by mwl1
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To: rightwing2
Have anything to add on behalf of your hero Gore? C'mon, hotshot. You're the big Pentagon analyst. Pile it onto Bush. We'd like to hear your opinion, since you sling it so much.
29 posted on 09/24/2002 2:05:57 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: boomop1
RIGHT! No one that takes anything algore has to say should be taken seriously.
30 posted on 09/24/2002 2:06:10 PM PDT by Warren
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To: Shermy
Pollster John Zogby said Gore's message was "very well timed

Got the statistics, John? What is the Confidence Interval?

31 posted on 09/24/2002 2:06:43 PM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Shermy
MEMO TO AL, REUTERS and ZOGBY:


32 posted on 09/24/2002 2:07:05 PM PDT by Joe Brower
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Looking like a cross between Melanie Griffin and a Picasso


33 posted on 09/24/2002 2:08:08 PM PDT by ErnBatavia
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To: Shermy
Just where the he11 was AlGore on Sept.11th, anyway?
34 posted on 09/24/2002 2:08:20 PM PDT by RightResponse
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To: Shermy
"Gore is trying to present himself as the only Democrat with backbone and the guts to take on the president," said Tom DeLuca, a political scientist with Fordham University in New York."

This is what I mean. Do we have a real country here with flesh and blood people who lost their lives on 9-11, or is this just a game-playing field for cynical opportunists to position themselves?? Earth to America: It is DISHONORABLE to position yourself against your own country's national interests in a time of war. Betting on a military defeat to boost your electoral chances is the act of a coward and traitor.

35 posted on 09/24/2002 2:09:03 PM PDT by Williams
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To: RolandBurnam
I can't believe it, but I had actually forgotten how much I really can't stand that man. He is so condecending, with that little chuckle he has before he answers a question. Also, he must have gotten some of that spray on hair, because his bald spot was nowhere in sight!
36 posted on 09/24/2002 2:09:21 PM PDT by KsSunflower
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To: Shermy
Zogby ===>

'Nuff said.

37 posted on 09/24/2002 2:10:14 PM PDT by mhking
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To: Shermy; Torie
Pollster John Zogby said Gore's message was "very well timed."
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This is bumped for anyone left on here that still thinks John Zogby is non-partisan. His polls are tilted to show the RATs doing better than they are.

Not to mention in 2000 he tilted his polls in Florida knowing all about the planned fraud IMO! I will keep saying that Zogby is a partisan RAT and his polls reflect a bent until everyone last person on here gets it.

38 posted on 09/24/2002 2:11:04 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Shermy
I can just hear 100's of local and statewide debates where the candidates are asked their position on Mr. Gore's tirades. Just another Albatross tied around DemocRAT necks.
39 posted on 09/24/2002 2:11:06 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: Shermy
Fifth column bump.
40 posted on 09/24/2002 2:14:01 PM PDT by white trash redneck
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