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A site in Oregon could shake America's view of history, says Sanjida O'Connell
The Guardian ^ | 10-19-2002 | Sanjida O'Connell

Posted on 10/19/2002 10:11:55 AM PDT by vannrox

Archaeologists split hairs over first arrivals

A site in Oregon could shake America's view of history, says Sanjida O'Connell

Sanjida O'Connell

Thursday October 17, 2002

The Guardian

Woodburn is a small agricultural town in the US state of Oregon. Next to the high school is Mammoth Park. It sounds cheesy, but Mammoth Park is a paleoarchaeological site whose findings could shake America's view of her history.

In suitably prosaic fashion, the site was discovered in 1987, when local authorities tried to install a sewer line. At depths of 5m, workers found huge bones, but said nothing and took them home. Now, Mammoth Park has tighter security, and links to three universities and four institutes.

Researchers have uncovered a wealth of findings that illustrates how America might have looked thousands of years ago, but most remarkable was the discovery in July 2000 of a human hair. DNA analysis could provoke a constitutional storm. The hair, 40cm long, is said to be the oldest piece of organic human remains: it has been carbon dated twice, but the results have not been published and the research remains controversial.

Archaeologist Dr Alison Stenger, director of research at the Institute for Archaeological Studies, Portland, believes the hair could be about 12,000 years old. The consensus is that America was first colonised 13,000 years ago, when people walked across a land bridge between Siberia and Alaska.

They then walked through a corridor that opened up between ice sheets in western Canada. So the date of the hair, if it proves accurate, fits the date of the first arrivals.

However, Stephen Dunleavy, who has produced a documentary on the colonisation of America, says: "It's almost biblical - a parting of the ways - and almost certainly wrong."

The theory was challenged in the late 1970s, when the remains of a communitywere found by archaeologists in Monte Verde, Chile, which could predate the consensus figure. The authenticity of this site is still disputed.

"It depends who you speak to," says Lori Baker, an assistant professor in molecular anthropology at Baylor University, Waco, Texas. "Some say the site dates from 12,500 years ago, but unofficial dates stretch back as far as 30,000 years ago."

The idea that people reached America earlier is gaining ground. If this supposition is true, how did they get there? One theory is that people island-hopped. Islands off the coast of America were ice-free long before a corridor cleared within the continent.

These people could have used some form of watercraft to travel down the coast - a much faster mode of transport. But evidence is patchy: 10% of the earth's water was locked up in glaciers: once they melted, the coastline flooded. There is, however, evidence of human activity 10,000 years ago on Prince of Wales Island, which means that by this stage, people must have had boats.

We are beginning to understand what their environment was like from fauna and flora unearthed at Mammoth Park. Researchers found mammoths, black bears, the Sitka black-tailed deer, a mule-like deer, horses, wolves, bison, mastodon and giant sloths, including a sloth foetus.

The team has even uncovered a new species, the teratorn, a giant ice age bird with a wingspan of more than four metres. Its presence, combined with duck skeletons and eggshells, indicates that the region was marshy, swampy, open and filled with a buzzing, booming collection of iridescent insects.

The people were technologically advanced, with a full tool kit of stone hand axes and butchering implements. They had developed a stone age Kalashnikov - a device that enabled them to throw a spear-like implement 200m - twice as far as the best javelin throwers.

The "atlatal", a powerful throwing stick, launched a type of dart that was more flexible than a spear and had a main shaft 1.5m long. The foreshaft, ending in a spear point, was lashed on with animal sinew and pitch. But who were these first peoples? Scientists assumed they were descendants of native Americans who now claim ownership of ancient human remains.

When the DNA analysis came back, Stenger was in for a shock. The hair did not belong to a native American. Baker, who carried out the analysis, says: "It's possible that the so-called paleoindians are not the ancestors of native Americans. Either they didn't leave any ancestors, or they were replaced by other peoples."

The implication is that some one, or some peoples, colonised the states first. All we can tell about the owner of the hair is that he or she had had a haircut.

· Wild New World: Edge of the Ice is on BBC2, 9pm next Thursday

Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2002


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: archaeology; discovery; exploration; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; history; mystery; past; site; unexplained; unusual
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
It would also shoot down their theory that they are entitled to all the fish, all the timber, etc. I'm of native descent, but this would make me smile. :<)
21 posted on 10/19/2002 6:46:39 PM PDT by AuntB
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To: nightdriver
Even the Bible alludes to the fact that man walked the Earth long before Adam.
Oh?

Where?

22 posted on 10/19/2002 8:39:25 PM PDT by Elsie
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To: Jonathon Spectre
Took them home for what?

Soup, of course. You never had an old recipe?

23 posted on 10/19/2002 9:36:19 PM PDT by IncPen
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the reminder about the really hushed up Kennewick Man.

This statement below, from the current thread article would seem to tie in with the cone of silence and outright censorship and games played with the Kennewick Man:

"When the DNA analysis came back, Stenger was in for a shock. The hair did not belong to a native American. Baker, who carried out the analysis, says: "It's possible that the so-called paleoindians are not the ancestors of native Americans. Either they didn't leave any ancestors, or they were replaced by other peoples."

The cover up on the Kennewick Man went right to the highest ones in control of America at that time.

Now for a few paragraphs from the Kennewick Man that you linked in your reply:

The lack of head flattening from cradle board use, minimal arthritis in weight-bearing bones, and the unusually light wear on his teeth distinguish the behavior and diet of Kennewick Man from that of more recent peoples in the region. A fragment of the fifth left metacarpal analyzed by AMS has an isotopically-corrected age of 8410 +/- 60 B.P. (UCR 3476) (ca 7300 to 7600 B.C.). Amino acids and stable isotopes indicate heavy dependence on anadromous fish. DNA was intact, but two partially-completed extractions were inconclusive.

The man lacks definitive characteristics of the classic mongoloid stock to which modern Native Americans belong. The skull is dolichocranic (cranial index 73.8) rather than brachycranic, the face narrow and prognathous rather than broad and flat. Cheek bones recede slightly and lack an inferior zygomatic projection; the lower rim of the orbit is even with the upper. Other features are a long, broad nose that projects markedly from the face and high, round orbits. The mandible is v-shaped,with a pronounced, deep chin. Many of these characteristics are definitive of modern-day caucasoid peoples, while others, such as the orbits are typical of neither race. Dental characteristics fit Turner's (1983) Sundadont pattern, indicating possible relationship to south Asian peoples.

Current Status of Kennewic Man: On August 30, four days after the startling radiocarbon result, the Corps insisted all studies be terminated and soon took possession of the skeleton. After publishing their intent to repatriate the remains to an alliance of five tribes and bands--Umatilla, Yakama, Nez Perce, Wanapum and Colville--the Corps received numerous requests for scientific study from citizens, congressmen and anthropologists. The Colville then filed a separate claim of their own. A group of internationally-known archaeologists and physical anthropologists filed suit, asserting that NAGPRA does not apply to this case and seeking the opportunity for study. The Asutru Folk Assembly, a traditional European religion, also sued for the right to determine if this individual was their ancestor. The Umatilla, who have taken the lead on the issue, intend immediate reburial in a secret location. The remains now lie in a federal repository awaiting resolution.

Doesn't all of this sound familiar? :

24 posted on 10/19/2002 10:38:51 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: AuntB
See my reply to Ernest above re tying this finding in with the findings of the hushed up Kennewick Man.

Here is a little excerpt from one of the paragraphs I highlighte:

A fragment of the fifth left metacarpal analyzed by AMS has an isotopically-corrected age of 8410 +/- 60 B.P. (UCR 3476) (ca 7300 to 7600 B.C.). Amino acids and stable isotopes indicate heavy dependence on anadromous fish.

In other words this guy was dependent on the migrating salmonoids for his food a few thousand years before the Indians showed up on in this area.

25 posted on 10/19/2002 10:43:01 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Yep!
26 posted on 10/19/2002 10:44:47 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Wasn't it amazing how that whole K. man thing was handled?

Science and real historical research were damn near burnt at the stake during that sorry mess.

27 posted on 10/19/2002 10:57:01 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
You see this kind of thing especially in the whole sorry scene with Global Warming. A lot of the scientists are pursuing grants and they shade the science to get the Grants.
28 posted on 10/19/2002 11:03:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Grampa Dave
I worked in the mid-Willamette Valley area for nearly 30 years drilling thousands of water wells, including one about a hundred yards from the site in Woodburn (no bones in that one).

I did however find other sites where deeply buried wood, fossils, and even what looked to me like bones were found. I never would report them. The owners of the sites would have been subjected to extreme loss of the use of their land and the 'scientists' would have construed their findings in ways that would have screwed us all. Better to just keep quiet and leave things well enough alone. Too bad that the sewer excavators didn't do the same thing.

29 posted on 10/19/2002 11:17:12 PM PDT by DeSoto
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To: vannrox
http://cluster4.biosci.utexas.edu/deathvalley/Art/teratorn.htm

http://www.bearfabrique.org/Catastrophism/TTORN.HTM

30 posted on 10/19/2002 11:23:50 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Go to this link for a semi hidden and impossible to tour facility in SOU, Southern Oregon University, Ashland.

This is the US Wild Life Forensics Lab hidden in SOU. There have been a few interesting and wild books in recent years that have used this lab as a key part of their books, re samples of stuff sent to this lab.

Go to the site and as an academic, just read through how it was founded and about the tours and the work done there.

I had a friend in Medford call it the NAS/CIA/Langley of the West re critter things and things that ain't critters.
31 posted on 10/19/2002 11:25:38 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: my_pointy_head_is_sharp
Fascinating reading! Interesting how all of this data has been kinda hidden.
32 posted on 10/19/2002 11:30:30 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Well you know my feelings about the charlatans of the Envirals posing as scientists to push the phoney global warming, the phoney all the salmon in the world are dying, the spotted owl scams, right up to planting lynx hairs to do more phoney science.
33 posted on 10/19/2002 11:32:41 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: DeSoto
I would have done exactly what you did for the same reasons.
34 posted on 10/19/2002 11:35:29 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Did you give the Link you mentioned at post #31?
35 posted on 10/19/2002 11:46:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Grampa Dave
I found the link, thanks to Google!

United States Fish and Wildlife National Forensics Lab

36 posted on 10/19/2002 11:52:15 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Grampa Dave
Found this:

Wildlife forensics lab

In the May 1993 issue, L&O reported on organized crime's involvement in illegal wildlife smuggling and poaching. The situation is so serious that a federal forensics laboratory is devoted to supporting the investigation of wildlife crime. It's services are available to you (LEOs).

37 posted on 10/19/2002 11:55:19 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
You're an idiot.
38 posted on 10/20/2002 12:47:46 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Old Professer
Took them home for what?

Fidosaurus, what else?

ROTLFMAO... YOu insufferable wag...

I live about 20 miles from Woodburn, as the Scud missile flies (we don't like Woodburn much around here, for reasons which would get me kicked off this website)

(but I will say, whatever was buried there, if it tradition holds across the millenia, probably got itself methodically killed, by propounding a degenerate culture among a civilized people...)

39 posted on 10/20/2002 1:30:20 AM PDT by fire_eye
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Oops, too late at night and that link was not included.

Glad that you found it.

You can't find that lab by doing a search of OSU/Ashland, Or.. Yet, the fish and game people of Kali, Oregon and other states state that it is part of OSU. It is not.

They do good stuff in helping to bring poachers and idiots to justice for illegally killing wild life. Then they will use some awesome powers to seize cougars killed by cops/citizens and keep the kills quite. Apparently there is a lot of controversy re the wolves coming back into Oregon and other nearby states. The wolf evidence goes there and nothing comes out.

Having said that, they were apparently the ones who broke the story of the planting of the lynx hairs by the enviral whackos working for the Floristry Circus in Washington. They identified the so called wild lynx hair that was planted as lynx hair from a previous non wild source. Their evidence, when they do decide to present it is so well documented, the bad guys will plead guilty to get lighter terms. Most of the reasonable judges out here on the West Coast will hammer poachers and illegal game killers based on the thorough evidence that comes from this group.

40 posted on 10/20/2002 7:32:58 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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