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Monthly Donors. Important Notice.
WillaJohns | October 21, 2002 | WillaJohns

Posted on 10/21/2002 7:34:19 PM PDT by WillaJohns

FR has changed the donation site and all monthly donors who wish to continue should re-input their information on the new site. Badjoe last ran the FR support monthlies September 20th. It is now October 21 so you are now out of danger of being hit twice in one month. : )

If you have not gone to the new site and re-entered your information your monthly has stopped.

Now I know you don't want that to happen it, so please go HERE to re-up.

The next Freepathon will come sooner and last longer if you don't do this now.

Please Freepmail Badjoe or e-mail him at Badjoe@socal.rr.com with your real name after you have done this so he can remove you from the old file.

Thank you!


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If you're not a monthly donor, why not do it now?
1 posted on 10/21/2002 7:34:19 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: WillaJohns
Did it Friday night. I'll e-mail Badjoe now.
2 posted on 10/21/2002 7:35:45 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Admin Moderator
Oh my goodness! I went just a tad overboard on the topics list. Sorry. Can you dump all those topics? I didn't know it was going to look like that. ; - (

Thank you!
3 posted on 10/21/2002 7:36:47 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: SamAdams76
Thanks Sam!
4 posted on 10/21/2002 7:40:51 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: WillaJohns
bump for action. thanks.
5 posted on 10/21/2002 7:41:59 PM PDT by hillsborofox
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To: WillaJohns; All
For FR to survive it is important that you all re-up

There are 301 Freepers who to my knowledge have not done this yet.

I am personally asking each and everyone of you to do it now.

I thank you all for the many months and years you have supported this website.


Joe
6 posted on 10/21/2002 7:43:28 PM PDT by BADJOE
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To: Admin Moderator
Thank you sooooo much for your help.

How embarrassing.

Thank goodness we're all family.
7 posted on 10/21/2002 7:43:31 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: Grampa Dave
Thought you might like to know this thread is up.
8 posted on 10/21/2002 7:46:55 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: BADJOE
There are 301 Freepers who to my knowledge have not done this yet.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you no longer have anything to do with the fund raising, how would you know that?

9 posted on 10/21/2002 7:50:45 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: WillaJohns
Thanks for the reminder! Just re-uped!
10 posted on 10/21/2002 7:52:23 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Howlin
Hi Howlin,

During the freepathon we asked those who re-upped to notify Badjoe so he could remove them from his old list.

We also asked them to hold off re-upping until after the 20th of October so they would not get charged twice in one month.

The amount on the scoreboard shown for new monthlies and re-ups is a very long way from the amount of monthlies Badjoe has in his file.

So this is a method of trying to contact those who have not re-upped yet.

I think every Freeper in their own way helps with the fundraisers and Badjoe is no exception.
11 posted on 10/21/2002 8:00:38 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: PhiKapMom
Thank you mom! And you're welcome.
12 posted on 10/21/2002 8:01:29 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: WillaJohns
Maybe I'm missing something here, but if his list is no longer valid, I don't see why anybody would need to contact him to tell him they have signed up with the new payment plan.
13 posted on 10/21/2002 8:02:49 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: WillaJohns
So, if I just became a monthly towards the end of the last Freepathon, will I need to go through this, or am I already on the new system?
14 posted on 10/21/2002 8:08:11 PM PDT by L,TOWM
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To: WillaJohns
I signed up using this page Oct 2. Am I good to go already?
15 posted on 10/21/2002 8:09:02 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: Howlin
Maybe I'm missing something here

Today's date, it appears.

The thread has gone up because -- to Badjoe's knowledge, based on those precautions taken in order to avoid double-bills -- there's roughly 301 who didn't re-up.

This thread is his chance to alert them and point them in the right direction now that -- as of yesterday -- he's no longer handling the monthlies.

16 posted on 10/21/2002 8:10:32 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Howlin
He plans to send a reminder email to all those who don't re-up. The job will be easier with fewer names (and not all the old email addresses will be good anyway). It is easier to email 50 people than it is to email 300 people, especially for Badjoe as he isn't a computer guru. Someone like WIMom would have everything on a database, but we're still working on little things like Ctrl-C, Ctrl-V in this house. ; - )

18 posted on 10/21/2002 8:15:43 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: WillaJohns
FReeRepublic Bump!
19 posted on 10/21/2002 8:15:53 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: L,TOWM
No.

If you did it during the last Freepathon you are on the new list.
20 posted on 10/21/2002 8:17:11 PM PDT by BADJOE
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To: L,TOWM
So, if I just became a monthly towards the end of the last Freepathon, will I need to go through this, or am I already on the new system?

You are good to go and no need to re-up. Thanks for asking!

*wink* ; - )

21 posted on 10/21/2002 8:17:12 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: Askel5
Perhaps you missed the part where BADJOE said he would no longer have anything to do with the fund raisers.

If you go to the donation page and sign up, I imagine Jim Robinson will know if you do it.

This thread to remind people seems fine. I just see no need to involved Joe.

22 posted on 10/21/2002 8:19:25 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Askel5
based on those precautions taken in order to avoid double-bills

I missed this before. Got any idea about who would be doing the double billing?

23 posted on 10/21/2002 8:20:24 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: WillaJohns
I only send cash;) That way only the USPS knows what's coming FR's way....those little vertical lines in the bills, doncha know?
24 posted on 10/21/2002 8:20:27 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: GATOR NAVY
I signed up using this page Oct 2. Am I good to go already?

Yes, you are in the new system and do not need to re-up. Anyone who started a new monthly or re-upped during the last Freepathon is "good to go."

Thank you for supporting the best website on the web!

25 posted on 10/21/2002 8:20:33 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: Howlin
I see it as Joe trying to do what's best for FR's coffers.
26 posted on 10/21/2002 8:21:33 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
Well, I'd like to see the list, too, then. Maybe I can help. :-)
27 posted on 10/21/2002 8:23:54 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Conservative_Dr.Pepper_Drinker
Here's the link to the donation site

THANK YOU!

28 posted on 10/21/2002 8:27:04 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: Fred Mertz
LOL!

29 posted on 10/21/2002 8:28:46 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: WillaJohns
Please Freepmail Badjoe or e-mail him at Badjoe@socal.rr.com with your real name after you have done this so he can remove you from the old file.

If he's not going to use the old file any more, wouldn't he just "remove" everyone anyway?

30 posted on 10/21/2002 8:29:01 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Howlin
I just see no need to involved Joe.

Not to put too fine a point on it ... but Joe's a big reason many folks became monthly donors in the first place. His tireless effort and lead-by-example attitude toward boosting the financial support of this place have been an outstanding boon to the site for many years.

It's to his credit -- and the site's -- that he uses this opportunity to make a final plug for monthlies to re-up.

31 posted on 10/21/2002 8:29:38 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: WillaJohns
So, if I send anonymous money orders, drawn on a Swiss Account, through a confidential remailing service in Iceland, do I still need to contact BadJoe?????
32 posted on 10/21/2002 8:30:57 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Askel5
Thanks for trying, Askel. That was very well said.
33 posted on 10/21/2002 8:31:50 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: Askel5
This thread is his chance to alert them and point them in the right direction now that -- as of yesterday -- he's no longer handling the monthlies.

... September 20th. It is now October 21...

34 posted on 10/21/2002 8:33:15 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Askel5
Nobody's denying one thing Joe did, especially not me. Joe is the one who announced he was stepping down. I'm just wondering why Jim didn't post this thread asking us to notify Joe, since I am almost positive I remember Jim pubicly asking Joe to destory that list.
35 posted on 10/21/2002 8:34:24 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Askel5
I think you're missing the point.

Nobody minds Willa posting the thread to remind people. I for one appreciate it a lot.

The question is, why are the old records still out there? If people haven't notified BADJOE are their CC's going to be charged this month? If people have renewed on the new system and not told BADJOE why should it matter?

I appreciate his past service very much, but I was under the very clear impression that he no longer was handling this.

If not, then why hold on to them?
36 posted on 10/21/2002 8:34:36 PM PDT by terilyn
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To: WillaJohns; BADJOE
Thanks so much for the reminder! I'm out of town and would have completely forgotten about switching my monthly without this friendly nudge. And I certainly don't want to let FR and JimRob down.

BADJOE ~~~ you have mail.
37 posted on 10/21/2002 8:34:46 PM PDT by kayak
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To: WillaJohns
Wouldn't it just be easier to shred the old file, since it's no longer useful in any acceptable way?
38 posted on 10/21/2002 8:35:51 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Askel5; BADJOE; Jim Robinson
Not to put too fine a point on it ... but Joe's a big reason many folks became monthly donors in the first place.

Not to put too fine a point on it ... but Joe's behavior in recent months, including his refusal a couple of months ago to shred the credit card records when Jim Robinson asked him publicly to do so, is one reason some people are now leery of using credit cards to donate.

39 posted on 10/21/2002 8:39:59 PM PDT by Amelia
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To: Howlin
Since Joe used to charge the monthlies on the 20th of the month, and the new system charges on the date you sign up for it, during the Freepathon monthly donors were told not to sign up under the new system until after the first of the month, to avoid being charged twice in September... once on the 20th, (before the 'thon started) and once under the new system, because it was still September. I waited and re-upped mine on the 1st.

Some of the old monthly donors obviously have not re-upped, and this is a hope and plea for them to do that if they will, that is all, I think, Howlin.
40 posted on 10/21/2002 8:43:02 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: WillaJohns
BTTT!
41 posted on 10/21/2002 8:44:07 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: WillaJohns
hmmmm, your cc billing software aint accepting my payment.

gives me an error about 'AVS error billing address does not match cardholder'.

I did it 3 times. It is correct. If you let me know when it is fixed, I will re-up.

ps. Should I notify BADJOE? j/k, lol
42 posted on 10/21/2002 8:44:12 PM PDT by fnord
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To: HairOfTheDog
Hey there!
Long time no see!
43 posted on 10/21/2002 8:46:22 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Amelia
He will email all those who do not contact him to remind them or inform them that there is a new system and they need to re-up if they wish to continue their monthly. The fewer people he has to email the easier it will be.

Badjoe's primary concern-job-goal has always been to keep FR financially healthy. That is where all his energies have gone. Just because he is no longer managing the fundraising doesn't mean he is just walking away. This thread is a reminder to the monthly donors to re-up. The monthlies were run on the 20th of each month. Today is the 21st of the month and it's time to re-up now.

Once everyone has re-upped, Joe will email whoever is left. Then, his job will be completed.

Thanks for supporting FR and caring enough to ask.
44 posted on 10/21/2002 8:46:28 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: Chad Fairbanks
So, if I send anonymous money orders, drawn on a Swiss Account, through a confidential remailing service in Iceland, do I still need to contact BadJoe?????

No, you nut! LOL. This is only for monthly contributors who use the convenience of the secure server for credit card donations, paypal, stuff like that. Cash and money orders are waaay out of Badjoe's league.

What am I going to do with you?

45 posted on 10/21/2002 8:49:28 PM PDT by WillaJohns
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To: Howlin; terilyn; Senator Pardek
Got any idea about who would be doing the double billing?

Sounds to me like anyone who didn't follow Joe's request to hold off the re-upping until after October 20th might have brought that on themselves. Just another good reason to post a thread in an abundance of caution.

I realize Texasforever alleged some vendetta against Bush Supporters engineered by Badjoe with a view toward leaking personal information to the "anti-TIPS" agents.

While that was without a doubt the most absurd Conspiracy Theory I've ever seen floated on this forum in the over 4 years I've been around, perhaps you're seeking to poke folks with that particular Fine Point?

As of yesterday, the monthlies were handled expressly and exclusively by the site. I think it behooves Joe to remind folks at this juncture that he's no longer the go-to guy in this regard. Any messed up payments as of yesterday are not his problem.

And, Terilyn, while I too remember Jim's telling Badjoe to "just destroy the records", I'm certain that upon reflection he realized that was an ill-considered comment. The destruction of such records would not only reflect poorly on this site's and Badjoe's ability to conduct business in a professional fashion, it would leave a cloud of suspicion where their orderly and meticulous records should be for future reference at least a few years hence.

I'm not an accountant or businessman but I'm certain there are several around who could vouch for the fact that those to whom the records have been entrusted all this time still are responsible for the integrity of the books barring some express transfer of legal liability for same.

I think it the height of irresponsibility for folks who have nothing to do with the business and bookkeeping of the site to be clogging up this simple and straightforward thread with the usual Soap Opera "long-shot" intrigue.

Not to put too fine a point on it but this isn't a public corporation, the books are none of your business and Badjoe's upfront criticisms of the site and of Jim are not exactly the actions of a petty cretin who would stoop to breaching confidences, sussing out or passing around folks' personal information in some effort to damage the site for which he's worked so hard for so long.

46 posted on 10/21/2002 8:52:46 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Hey there Chad!

couple guys got dragged out of a van today... did you see it? ;~D

47 posted on 10/21/2002 8:55:05 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Askel5
Sounds to me like anyone who didn't follow Joe's request to hold off the re-upping until after October 20th might have brought that on themselves.

Now who's not paying attention. The ONLY way that could happen would be if Joe submitted the credit card numbers HE has this month, too, which he specifically said he wasn't going to do.

I did't read the rest of your post.

48 posted on 10/21/2002 8:55:32 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: WillaJohns
The way I understood the announcement during the FReepathon, monthly donors were to wait until October 20 to sign up for the new system or they would pay twice between 9/20 and 10/20 .... once under Joe's system and once under the new system.

Because FReepers are busy people, it was said at the time that a reminder would be sent out to try to see to it that all the monthlies got transferred to the new system. BADJOE agreed to help out with the transition and would notify those who had not switched yet. He can only do that if he has a list and marks off the names of those he has heard from, then notifies the remaining donors so they have the opportunity to continue their contributions. Otherwise many contributions will be dropped simply because FReepers forget to transfer them to the new system.

There would be no automatic transfer of monthlies but the donors would have to enter completely new transactions under the new system. Those who don't take this step will no longer be donating to FR.

Is that correct?

And the purpose of this thread is to try to get the word out so that BADJOE doesn't have to personally email the 300 people who haven't yet switched .... right?

I see this as yet another service that BADJOE is performing for FR even as he gives up a responsibility that he had taken on voluntarily and performed so well.

49 posted on 10/21/2002 8:56:39 PM PDT by kayak
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To: HairOfTheDog
Yeah... I saw that... pretty cool ;0)
50 posted on 10/21/2002 8:57:16 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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