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Army isn't linking grenade attack to soldier's Muslim religion
Kait8 News ^ | 3/22/1980 | Unknown

Posted on 03/23/2003 8:14:04 PM PST by de_oppresso_liber1

Fort Campbell, Kentucky-AP -- The soldier taken into custody after a grenade attack at a 101st Airborne Division camp in Kuwait has been identified as Sergeant Asan Akbar.

But Army spokesman George Heath says the attack that left one dead and 15 wounded hasn't been linked to Akbar's Islamic faith. And he says the attack won't lead to other Muslims being barred from serving in the U-S military.

Heath says an Islamic chaplain is assigned to the 101st Airborne Division in Kuwait. And he says Akbar is being allowed to say his Muslim daily prayers while he's in custody. No charges have been filed yet.

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To: 4NOMOREGORE
The Army is playing this case smart. They aren't breathing one word of his being a Muslim--because it's completely irrelevant.

All they need is the bare facts. Soldier was in war zone, soldier lobs grenade, soldiers kills officer. Veridct: Guilty. Sentence: Death.

The DEFENSE will have to drag the soldier's religion in, saying (a) it's the motivation and (b) it's exculpatory.

And that will fly about as well as a brick Zeppelin.
81 posted on 03/24/2003 5:39:45 AM PST by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Brad Cloven
We are so politically correct. The Twin Towers had nothing to do with Islam; nor our embassies; nor the U.S.S. Cole; nor shoe bombers; etc..

Just repeat the mantra - "Islam is a religion of peace (trans. submission)" - over and over again.

82 posted on 03/24/2003 5:41:31 AM PST by Thommas
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To: RANGERAIRBORNE
When he is given a diagnosis of "schizophrenia" and quietly boarded out of the Army, remember that I predicted it here on FR on Day One. There will be NO General Court-Martial, NO prison time, and most definitely NO execution.

I wouldn't bet a nickle against your prediction...

83 posted on 03/24/2003 5:44:11 AM PST by Thommas
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To: de_oppresso_liber1
But Army spokesman George Heath says the attack that left one dead and 15 wounded hasn't been linked to Akbar's Islamic faith.

The Army has a problem ...
The Army is purposely ignoring the problem...
The problem will get worse.

84 posted on 03/24/2003 6:00:47 AM PST by bimbo
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To: de_oppresso_liber1
Army isn't linking grenade attack to soldier's Muslim religion...

To borrow an appropriate Dickens line, in this instance...

"The army is a ass"

85 posted on 03/24/2003 6:03:24 AM PST by Publius6961 (p>)
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To: sinkspur
...pretty much describes my opinion of all your posts.

Have a nice day.

86 posted on 03/24/2003 6:06:00 AM PST by Publius6961 (p>)
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To: de_oppresso_liber1
"Heath says an Islamic chaplain is assigned to the 101st Airborne Division in Kuwait. And he says Akbar is being allowed to say his Muslim daily prayers while he's in custody. No charges have been filed yet. "

If they don't think his muslim "faith" motivated, then just what did? It's been a few days now. Surely he stated WHY he intentionally murdered and wounded his colleagues.

Shhhh ... I bet it IS his muslim faith that motivated him but of course we can't say that hence the silence and confusion on what to do.

88 posted on 03/24/2003 6:10:56 AM PST by nmh
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To: tessalu
This Muslim's mother said he was not allowed to serve in the first Gulf war, ...

A lot has certainly changed with Muslims since the days of Muhammed Ali, a concientious objector on religious grounds.

89 posted on 03/24/2003 6:13:40 AM PST by bimbo
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To: Publius6961
Thanks for taking time out of your obviously busy morning to take a gratuitous shot. If you don't like my posts, don't read them. I can't recall ever seeing one of yours.
90 posted on 03/24/2003 6:16:07 AM PST by sinkspur
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To: so_real
Forget that! There's no way I could sleep off-watch while a muslim bunk buddy was on-watch.

If he was clearly outspoken about hating Saddam's guts (as some Muslims do because they have enough integrity in the face of Saddam's religious phoniness), maybe it wouldn't be a problem. But how many are? The silence at 9/11 was deafening.

91 posted on 03/24/2003 6:18:55 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (O Columbia... Thy banners make tyranny tremble... when borne by the red, white and blue)
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To: PhilDragoo
"Outside the charred and blood-splattered tents Sunday, soldiers recalled hearing the suspect say as he was being led away by armed soldiers: "You guys are coming into our countries and you're going to rape our women and kill our children."

How do you get resentment out of this statement above?

"George Heath, a spokesman for the division's home base at Ft. Campbell, Ky., said Akbar had been "having what some might call an attitude problem." Max Blumenfeld, an Army spokesman in Kuwait City, said the suspect's motive "most likely was resentment."

""It's bad enough we have to worry about enemy forces, but now we have to worry about our own guys," said Spc. Autumn Simmer, 19, who had been sleeping in a row of tents behind those that were attacked."

"Spc. Annushka Albee, 26, who had been sleeping in the same tent as Simmer, said: "He's a Muslim, but he's also a coward. That's a loser for you, wait till people go to sleep and then attack them. He should be a real man and do it face-to-face." "

""He was never a troublemaker," Hasan said. "I'm remembering him as a kid and listening to what he's charged with, and it doesn't compute. It's completely against the character of the person I knew."

"Hasan said Akbar's mother, Quran Bilal, called him from Louisiana on Sunday evening to let him know about the charges against her son."

"A mother knows her son better than anyone and she said, 'They must have gotten the wrong boy,' " Hasan said.

No, she and others saw what they wanted to see. They didn't know the real Akbar. Ah but people love being deceived. It makes em feel good about themselves. Almost forgot, there will conitnue to be no discrimination against Muslims who are "resentful". That kind of discrimination would violent his right to kill or injure us and it is religious, racial profiling.

92 posted on 03/24/2003 6:21:25 AM PST by nmh
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To: laz17
"When, oh when, will everyone realize that islam is not a legitimate religion? That it is, in fact, a big Lie created by Satan for the express purpose of opposing and eradicating Judeo-Christianity?"

No, it's evil white European and decendents that find comfort in Christianity. Muslims are "peace loving" people. Besides it's not politically correct to acknowledge differences amongst the various "faiths" out there. Someone might walk away with hurt feelings. No, according to most folks either all religions are basxically the same or this is what happens to people when they become "religious" or "resentful".

94 posted on 03/24/2003 6:25:48 AM PST by nmh
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To: Victoria Delsoul
"But not to worry, if he is lucky he'll have 72 virgins all to himself."

Time to be real hereos and send him on his way! Let's do our good deed and usher him into "Paradise" asap.

95 posted on 03/24/2003 6:27:59 AM PST by nmh
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To: steve in DC
Your line of thinking only works if the perp's defense plays along. I doubt they will fall into that moral and theological trap so easily.

If anything, his defense will play the insanity / contientious objector line. I can easily see his defense stating that he wanted to "opt out of an unjust war against fellow muslims" and that he felt he persued all possible avenues to avoid killing his bretheren. It will play to the larger world audience but will still buy him a bullet because military criminal justice does not play by the same rules as civil criminal justice.

His conviction will be deserved; however, this may complete his dreams of martyrdom. It will give our foreign and domestic enemies another stone to throw at America. For the suspect and the Muslim world, it is a win-win.

96 posted on 03/24/2003 6:32:30 AM PST by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: bimbo
A lot has certainly changed with Muslims since the days of Muhammed Ali,

But very little has changed since the days of Muhammad and Ali, who spread their newly "revealed" religion by fire and the sword.

97 posted on 03/24/2003 6:33:49 AM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: sinkspur
You're right we do have the truth. I should just have said that I'm looking forward to seeing the Coulter column on this.
98 posted on 03/24/2003 6:39:10 AM PST by Balding_Eagle
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To: de_oppresso_liber1
Yeah I'm sure it's just a coincidence that he's Muslim
99 posted on 03/24/2003 6:41:26 AM PST by Michael2001
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To: sinkspur
I have friends and family over there. I don't feel comfortable knowing that the military is letting Muslims serve next to them.
100 posted on 03/24/2003 6:42:32 AM PST by Michael2001
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