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Dolphins Did Not 'Volunteer' for War, Animal 'Rights' Activists Say
CNSNews.com ^ | 3/26/03 | Marc Morano

Posted on 03/26/2003 5:06:41 AM PST by kattracks

(CNSNews.com) - Animal rights activists are blasting the U.S. Navy for its use of mine-detecting dolphins in the war with Iraq because, according to the activists, the marine mammals "have not volunteered" to be part of the war.

Stephanie Boyles, a wildlife biologist with People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA), said the use of dolphins to sweep for mines in Iraq is "just ridiculous."

"These are animals that, number one, have not volunteered to take part in this whatsoever. Number two, they are being put in harm's way...when they don't even know they are in harm's way," Boyles told CNSNews.com.

"There have been already enough victims in this world. We don't have to start adding other species to it," Boyles added.

Frank Gaffney, president of the Washington-based Center for Security Policy and a former assistant secretary of defense for international security policy under President Ronald Reagan, defended the use of the dolphins.

"My personal priority would be to save human lives and most especially American lives. If the dolphins can do so, hopefully at minimal risks to themselves and at great benefit to us, that seems to me to be a proper rendering of the priorities," Gaffney said.

Atlantic bottle-nosed dolphins were scheduled to arrive in the southern Iraqi port of Umm Qasr on Tuesday and were to be used for their natural sonar abilities to search the Iraqi coastline for hidden mines before humanitarian aid ships docked. Dolphins have a four-decades-long history of assisting the U.S. Navy.

U.S. Navy Captain Mike Tillotson told reporters in Iraq that the dolphins are trained to place a marker near any detected mines and avoid getting too close to the mines.

'Minds of Their Own'

But PETA believes animals should not play any role in the war with Iraq.

"Why are we spending time trying to train animals that have lives and minds of their own to try and carry out these tasks for us? That just seems a little archaic, not to mention unreliable," Boyles explained.

Boyles believes the use of dolphins to detect the presence of mines may cost lives because the dolphins may think the whole effort is a game.

"They have minds of their own; they don't realize the tasks they are being taught to perform are life and death. And when they don't perform correctly, human lives will be lost," predicted Boyles.

"[The dolphins] think this is a game, and yet the risk to their lives and the amount of suffering they may endure is great, and we don't seem to care about that," she added.

The animal "rights" activists are also concerned about the possible negative methods the U.S. military has used to train the dolphins.

"That's our great fear, that they are using negative reinforcement in order to train these animals," Boyles said.

"They are certainly not disclosing to us how they are training these animals," she added.

Boyles wanted to make it clear that PETA is in solidarity with America's fighting forces in Iraq.

"We support our troops. We have friends over there as well, and we believe they deserve the very best defense possible," Boyles said.

'Abominable'

But scores of dolphins swimming in Iraq's harbors and waterways are not going to give America's soldiers that defense, according to Boyles.

"[Dolphins] are not a good choice for the military, it's just ridiculous, and for them to try to convince the American public otherwise is abominable," she said.

Naomi A. Rose, a marine mammal scientist with the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS), said the animal "rights" group was "concerned about the welfare" of the dolphins but declined to denounce the use of them during wartime.

"As we have in the past, we will continue to express our concerns to the Navy and Congress about the military use of marine mammals, but while the war continues, we remain focused on the welfare of all those in the combat zone - human and animal," Rose told CNSNews.com.

Calls to the U.S. Navy regarding the concerns about the dolphins were not returned.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dolphins; greenfifthcolumn; humanitarianrelief; mines; navydolphin; norfolknas; peta
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To: EternalVigilance
::LOL:: What a great poem!

It's true, too - I think there are days that hubby prefers the dog over me ::grin::

I saved the poem, will send it off to some family members who will really appreciate it.

Thanks!
LQ
61 posted on 03/26/2003 11:51:41 AM PST by LizardQueen
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To: LizardQueen
;-)
62 posted on 03/26/2003 11:52:25 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: kattracks
How do they know these dolphins haven't volunteered?
63 posted on 03/26/2003 11:53:46 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: EternalVigilance
They are the comedians of the dog world. I love my Lab.
64 posted on 03/26/2003 11:55:36 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (eif eit smells eits french)
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To: Grampa Dave
Since the Dolphins are smarter than humans, if they didn't like what they are doing. They would swim away!

That's what I've been saying. They are not being held captive.

65 posted on 03/26/2003 11:55:57 AM PST by Vicki (Truth and Reality)
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To: Zon
I have watched the Navy working with Dolphin off the west end of Shelter Island in San Diego. It is an absolute hoot to watch the dolphin following the Navy trainers in a Boston Whaler and jumping in and out of the boat (it has a cut down side so its easy for dolphin to get in and out).

The "relationship" between the trainers and the dolphin seems to be based on mutual respect and shared fun.....contrary to what Peta may think.

66 posted on 03/26/2003 11:58:13 AM PST by HardStarboard
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To: TonyWojo
You don't understand how we use them. You line them up side by side and point toward the horizon. You tell them that just over the rise is a little old lady who has spilled a cup of McDonalds coffee in her lap. They will quickly clear the area of mines the hard way.
67 posted on 03/26/2003 11:58:22 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (eif eit smells eits french)
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To: BossLady
Peta does complain about the dolphins and whales in the tanks.

If these Navy Dolphins didn't like what they are doing, they would just swim away.

I see them very much like dogs. They like humans and like being around them.

Only the Islamofacist financed Peta freaks would complain about Dolphins locating mines. If those mines explode they could kill a lot of critters in the ocean around them.

PETA = Wacko Watermelon Jihadists in America!
68 posted on 03/26/2003 12:07:02 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("Those who are kind to the cruel end up being cruel to the kind")
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To: Joe Brower
Great Joe. This is another one of your great grahics that Grampaw will borrow:


69 posted on 03/26/2003 12:09:36 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("Those who are kind to the cruel end up being cruel to the kind")
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To: Carry_Okie
Hitler worshipped nature, too.
70 posted on 03/26/2003 12:12:56 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Grampa Dave
Help yourself, Grampa. I can't take credit for it -- I myself copied it off of FR some time ago. I also have a different version, somewhat, er, less nice. I just put it in the same subdirectory on my website. $:-)

Check back at http://www.joebrower.com/PHILE_PILE/PIX/IRAQ2003/ in the next day or so -- I'll be putting some other graphics in there fairly soon. Public domain for all.


71 posted on 03/26/2003 12:17:56 PM PST by Joe Brower (http://www.joebrower.com/)
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To: Joe Brower
Please ping me or freepmail when you update your library.

Some like the UN helmet with the holes in are really in vogue now.
72 posted on 03/26/2003 12:21:51 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("Those who are kind to the cruel end up being cruel to the kind")
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To: Big Okie
The left uses human shields. The right uses fish shields and big friggin' bombs.

Actually they wanted to use human shields but they couldn't seem to find any.The Iraqi's used them all up somehow.....

73 posted on 03/26/2003 12:22:23 PM PST by oust the louse
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To: kattracks
Why are we spending time trying to train animals that have lives and minds of their own to try and carry out these tasks for us? That just seems a little archaic, not to mention unreliable," Boyles explained.

I'm so confused. First PETA tried to tell me that dolphins are smarter than humans. By a good 10% or better. Now Peta is telling me that dolphins are unreliable. What to believe? What to believe?

Actually, dolphins are so reliable that studies have shown they can tell the difference between lead and gold through echo location alone, though they still prefer fish to both.And maybe a little squid with a side salad.

Can anyone tell me why PETA is singling out the dolphins and not trying to save the sea lions and belugas that the Navy is using(though not in this conflict).

74 posted on 03/26/2003 12:28:07 PM PST by HusbandMan
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To: rintense
Yep Grandpa Simpson worked with dolphins back in WWII:


75 posted on 03/26/2003 12:29:34 PM PST by texson66 (Those who fail to study the past are condemed to repeat it. Those who fail to study the ........)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Screw the PETA Pricks ... the Dolpfins did volunteer, I heard 'em say so during their feeding, live on FOXNEWS. :)

Let's Roll!
76 posted on 03/26/2003 1:07:37 PM PST by blackie
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To: kattracks
Dolphins Did Not 'Volunteer' for War, Animal 'Rights' Activists Say

Unless she had a conversation with them, how does she know?

77 posted on 03/26/2003 1:10:35 PM PST by Mark17
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Thanks for the heads up!
78 posted on 03/26/2003 1:10:39 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: kattracks
You can see the absolute struggle to justify their indignation.
79 posted on 03/26/2003 1:10:41 PM PST by amused (Republicans for Sharpton!)
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To: Grampa Dave
There you go, Grampa. I've just uploaded the creme de la creme of my Iraq War images archive to the URL in post 71.

I will be adding to this as the operation progresses.


80 posted on 03/26/2003 1:10:45 PM PST by Joe Brower (http://www.joebrower.com/)
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