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Surprise, Mom: I'm Anti-Abortion
New York Times ^
| 3/30/03
| ELIZABETH HAYT
Posted on 03/29/2003 7:00:29 PM PST by madprof98
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To: madprof98
I'm stunned that it's in the NYT, but hey, I'll take it. The only thing that's ever been needed to sway the abortion argument is a simple discussion of straight facts, facts that are virtually NEVER allowed to be known by the media. The methods. The reality behind the ludicrous claims of the pro-abortioners, etc.
MM
To: madprof98
82
posted on
03/30/2003 9:29:00 PM PST
by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: supercat
"" I suspect more women are dying from them now than did pre-Roe. ""
Not officially. But the records the states keep aren't reliable, at all for good comparisons.
And, all maternal deaths dropped significantly in the last 40 years, because of improvements in antibiotics, surgery and all sorts of medical treatments.
Now, if we could ever compare numbers of complications, that would be interesting. After 15 weeks pregnancy, abortion is statistically less safe for the mother than carrying the child to term.
83
posted on
03/30/2003 9:30:12 PM PST
by
hocndoc
(Choice is the # 1 killer in the US.)
To: hocndoc
Thanks. My little girl is now 13 and not so little anymore (I'm trying to keep her as little as a teenage can be...). Thankfully, my mother is the best grandmother a little girl and her little brother could ask for.
I hope never have to tell that story to my daughter. As with me, she may not make all the best choices in life, but I will make sure she makes good on the ones that count.
84
posted on
03/30/2003 9:31:28 PM PST
by
nicollo
To: MHGinTN
Thanks for the ping.
(It wasn't possible for the NYT to make this a negative article, even though I suspect they tried. *FReepers,* on the other hand, somehow have managed to kick up a fuss. Oh well,,,,)
85
posted on
03/30/2003 9:35:52 PM PST
by
hocndoc
(Choice is the # 1 killer in the US.)
To: nicollo
God bless you, your kids, and your mother.
86
posted on
03/30/2003 9:40:12 PM PST
by
hocndoc
(Choice is the # 1 killer in the US.)
To: Salvation
In my journey from being pro-abortion to pro-life, I had done a lot of research on abortion, and looked at a lot of images. But those images of murdered children still break my heart in two.
I do believe that education is the key to getting more people to be pro-life. Most people are good, but they have been hood-winked by a leftist feminist cabala into believing that abortion is a "pro-women's rights" thing. Nothing could be further from the truth, of course. As we knowm, abortion is the antithesis of being humane, it is in direct contradiction to everything that a woman should stand for.
When people understand the trauma that these children go through, when they see the photos, understand the pain, then that is the beginning of change. The pro-life epiphany will come to most individuals, if enough information is given.
So, keep up the good work. Those photos are worth a million words--so I will just stop writing and encourage everyone who is still pro-abortion, who may be reading this, to dare to take a look.
87
posted on
03/30/2003 9:49:20 PM PST
by
FirstTomato
("In the end,We will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends" M L King)
To: hocndoc
Not officially. But the records the states keep aren't reliable, at all for good comparisons. I guess I find it surprising that more women aren't dying, since the number of yearly abortions has increased something like a hundredfold, hasn't it?
88
posted on
03/30/2003 10:22:47 PM PST
by
supercat
(TAG--you're it!)
To: supercat
The numbers have increased for both abortions and, probably, for maternal deaths. But, there is no way of knowing until we have better counts and accountability.
At least this year, the nation's standardized death certificate, for the first time, requires reporting whether or not a woman wa pregnant at death or in the last year. The statistics should get a little more reliable.
89
posted on
03/31/2003 6:24:48 AM PST
by
hocndoc
(Choice is the # 1 killer in the US.)
To: MHGinTN
Great thread BUMP!
90
posted on
03/31/2003 6:44:34 AM PST
by
cpforlife.org
(“My people are destroyed from lack of knowledge.” Hosea 4:6)
To: madprof98; All
For reference, this was located on the front page of the STYLE section (Sunday's only). As if its stylish or a fad to be pro-life.
To: madprof98
the spread of ultrasound technology, which has made the fetus seem more human; Anyone want to guess whether the author aborted something that seemed to be human at some time in her life?
To: Concerned
I am the MOTHER of a SEVERELY mentally and physically disabled child who neither walks nor talks nor feeds herself and who still wears diapers at 18 years of age...and I am STILL PRO-LIFE! I admire you. God bless you!
My sister-in-law is in a similar situation with her 12-year-old. I have some idea of how difficult it can be.
To: nicollo
I was. When I refused to abort my 1st child, my mother disowned me. Wow. When I used to do sidewalk prayer vigils outside of Planned Infanticide in Brookline, more often than not a crying teenage girl was being led in by her mother. Thank God you made the right decision.
To: Coleus
Do you have a link for these stats? Actually, I had heard similar figures a few years ago but can't remember where, so in order to get the most accurate stats I could, I used Google. Put in "CDC abortion deaths 1972," etc. These stats were from the CDC website, and they actually state that reporting abortion deaths is not mandatory in every state, so the figures are pry an under-representation.
To: madprof98
Here is a recent email I sent to W.
Dear President Bush, With the Surpeme Court session getting ready to close, it may well be time for perhaps the most important domestic decision of your presidency: the appointment of a Supreme Court Justice(s). The main reason why I supported you in 2000 and why I wanted Daschle out of power in 02 (and 04) has to do with the courts. I want America courts to interpret law, not write law. During your presidential campaign you said Thomas and Scalia were your two model justices. Those are excellent models. The High Court needs more like them. Clarence Thomas recently said to students that the tough cases were when what he wanted to do was different from what the law said. And he goes by the law. This should be a model philosophy for our justices. Your father, President Bush lost his reelection campaign for 3 main reasosn, as far as I can see. 1. he broke the no new taxes pledge 2. David Souter 3. Clinton convinced people we were in a Bush recession (which we had already come out of by the time Clinton was getting sworn in)
I urge you to learn from all three of these: 1. on taxes, you're doing great. Awesome job on the tax cut. 2. good job so far on judicial appointments. I want to see more of a fight for Estrada, Owen, and Pickering, but I commend you on your nominations. 3. by staying engaged in the economic debate you'll serve yourself well
I have been thoroughly impressed with your handling of al Queida, Iraq, and terrorism. You have inspired confidence and have shown great leadership.
But I want to remind you that your Supreme Court pick(s) will be with us LONG after you have departed office. I urge you to avoid the tempation to find a "compromise" pick. Go for a Scalia or Thomas. Don't go for an O'Connor or Kennedy. To be specific, get someone who is pro-life. Roe v Wade is one of the worst court decisions I know of, and it's the perfect example of unrestrained judicial power.
I know the temptation will be tremendous on you to nominate a moderate. But remember who your true supporters are. I am not a important leader or politician. I am "simply" a citizen who has been an enthusiatic supporter of you. I am willing to accept compromise in many areas of government but I will watch your Court nomiantions extremely closely. What the Senate Dems are doing right now is disgusting, but as the President you have the bully pulpit to stop it. Democrats will back down if you turn up serious heat on them.
Moreover, I think public opinion is shifting towards the pro-life position. Dems will want you to nominate a moderate, but almost all will vote against you anyways. Pro-choice Repubs will likely still vote for you if you nominate a Scalia, after all, you campaigned on it. So Mr. President, I urge you to stick with your campaign statements and nominate justices who believe in judicial restraint, like Scalia and Thomas.
Happy Memorial Day and may God bless you and your family.
96
posted on
05/28/2003 12:27:28 PM PDT
by
votelife
(FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
To: JusPasenThru
Dear President Bush,
With the Surpeme Court session getting ready to close, it may well be time for perhaps the most important domestic decision of your presidency: the appointment of a Supreme Court Justice(s). The main reason why I supported you in 2000 and why I wanted Daschle out of power in 02 (and 04) has to do with the courts. I want America courts to interpret law, not write law. During your presidential campaign you said Thomas and Scalia were your two model justices. Those are excellent models. The High Court needs more like them. Clarence Thomas recently said to students that the tough cases were when what he wanted to do was different from what the law said. And he goes by the law. This should be a model philosophy for our justices. Your father, President Bush lost his reelection campaign for 3 main reasosn, as far as I can see. 1. he broke the no new taxes pledge 2. David Souter 3. Clinton convinced people we were in a Bush recession (which we had already come out of by the time Clinton was getting sworn in)
I urge you to learn from all three of these: 1. on taxes, you're doing great. Awesome job on the tax cut. 2. good job so far on judicial appointments. I want to see more of a fight for Estrada, Owen, and Pickering, but I commend you on your nominations. 3. by staying engaged in the economic debate you'll serve yourself well
I have been thoroughly impressed with your handling of al Queida, Iraq, and terrorism. You have inspired confidence and have shown great leadership.
But I want to remind you that your Supreme Court pick(s) will be with us LONG after you have departed office. I urge you to avoid the tempation to find a "compromise" pick. Go for a Scalia or Thomas. Don't go for an O'Connor or Kennedy. To be specific, get someone who is pro-life. Roe v Wade is one of the worst court decisions I know of, and it's the perfect example of unrestrained judicial power.
I know the temptation will be tremendous on you to nominate a moderate. But remember who your true supporters are. I am not a important leader or politician. I am "simply" a citizen who has been an enthusiatic supporter of you. I am willing to accept compromise in many areas of government but I will watch your Court nomiantions extremely closely. What the Senate Dems are doing right now is disgusting, but as the President you have the bully pulpit to stop it. Democrats will back down if you turn up serious heat on them.
Moreover, I think public opinion is shifting towards the pro-life position. Dems will want you to nominate a moderate, but almost all will vote against you anyways. Pro-choice Repubs will likely still vote for you if you nominate a Scalia, after all, you campaigned on it. So Mr. President, I urge you to stick with your campaign statements and nominate justices who believe in judicial restraint, like Scalia and Thomas.
Happy Memorial Day and may God bless you and your family.
97
posted on
05/29/2003 8:12:42 PM PDT
by
votelife
(FREE MIGUEL ESTRADA!)
To: fourdeuce82d
I was shocked that there were that many students who felt strong enough and confident enough to speak about being pro-life," said Nina Verin, a parent of another student in the class (whose oral argument was about war in Iraq). "The people I associate with in town are pro-choice, so I'm troubled where do these kids come from?"
Here's where they come from: YOU INADVERTADELY CREATED THEM.
These people study history. They know that the 60's didn't just happen, people created it. Hence, they know that the only way to undo the damage is to fight back, and fight back hard.
Thus says Cook.
98
posted on
08/23/2003 11:57:47 PM PDT
by
TheCookMan
(Communism thrives when good people do nothing.)
To: All
Ever since I heard of this new technology, I've maintained that it is the Stealth Bomber that is going to zoom in under the pro-death crowd's radar and nuke them... once a woman sees what is really in her womb, it ceases to be a "tissue mass" and becomes... a baby. Her baby.
99
posted on
08/24/2003 12:05:11 AM PDT
by
backhoe
(Abortion stills a beating heart...)
To: madprof98
It's because 1 out of 4 of the under-30 generation was aborted.
The blood of over 40,000,000 Americans cries out...
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