Surprise, Mom: I'm Anti-Abortion

New York Times ^ | 3/30/03 | ELIZABETH HAYT

[fourdeuce82d]

if you aren't considered DEAD, why would you need CPR

last time I checked CPR was not the suggested remedy for death- the intervention of a higher power is called for. CPR is useful in situations where a person has stopped breathing/neglected to continue circulating their blood, but has not ceased cereberal activity.

Once you are D-E-D dead, cpr won't help. Point is being alive or dead, or being human or non-human has nothing to do with whether or not you have a heartbeat.

[MHGinTN]

If your heart is stopped during surgery, are you not a person? If your head is severed, but you body is put on a respirator to keep the organs fresh for transplant, are you still alive? Is the body a person? I don't think there is a single case of a head being severed but the body kept alive on machinery, for transplant purposes. But there are many examples of the head stopped functioning as an integral organ of the organism yet the remains of the organism is kept alive for organ harvesting. My now departed brother is an example and many of his body parts now help to sustain the lives of other individual human beings. And that is the point I would offer to you.

You were first an individual human being at your individual conception and first cell division. Your lifetime as an organism (not to be confused with an organ) started the continuum that is your individual human life when the gametes of your parents united. The zygote is an organism, with body parts, growing and thus expressing its individual human life. To miss this critical truth is to open the door to the utility of exploiting these earliest aged human beings, while wrongfully casting aside the truth of the cannibalism in the process of that exploitation. The embryo is an human being. Its stem cells are its body parts, even before the manifestation of organs can be differentiated in the individual human organism. To kill the embryo in order to harvest its body parts for use in treating another, older organism is as much cannibalism as treating an individual's illness by having the patient eat the embryo(s). The only way to stand against that cannibalism is by acknowledging the embryological truth that the embryo is an individual human being in its earliest age of a lifetime, a continuum of individual human life begun at conception.

[aloysius89]

It was an argument made by a teenager in class quoted by a newspaper that wasn't entirely sympathetic to her point of view (or that was trying to be objective.) There are better arguments for the individuality and personhood of the "fetus".

[aloysius89]

It's not just an "I believe it's true". It is true and worse. Abortion is not just killing, it's akin to... I can't say it.

[aloysius89]

God bless you.

[homeagain balkansvet]

Bravo.

Best year in my life was spent as the personal caretaker of a young man much like your daughter. He never spoke a word to me--yet taught me more than all my professors.

God bless you; He will reward your pains.

[Tribune7]

(3) Would PETA allow a dog or cat to have its legs RIPPED OFF of its PRE-BORN body and its SKULL CRUSHED? Obviously, NOT!

GREAT POINT!!

[xm177e2]

Some parents trace their teenagers' anti-abortion views to sexuality education programs that stress abstinence as the only way to prevent pregnancy and disease, and in the process sometimes demonize abortion.

Nope, no bias at the NYT...

[Teacher317]

Dear Mom,

Thanks for not aborting me.

Love,
Teacher317

[Dad was my hero]

WARNING: The Surgeon General has Determined that Abortion May Be Hazardous to Your Baby's Health

When was abortion NOT hazardous to your baby's health?

[Dad was my hero]

(3) Would PETA allow a dog or cat to have its legs RIPPED OFF of its PRE-BORN body and its SKULL CRUSHED? Obviously, NOT!

You know that is one I've wondered about. Never seen any information about it although I've suspected it with the silly things that you see about where they have someone on a movie set to make sure that a bug wasn't killed in the making of a movie (Shawshank Redemption for instance). I've wondered if I found a stray cat and took it to my vet, would they perform an abortion if I requested one or would they refuse. If they agreed and PETA found out, what would they do, try to get an injunction?

[fourdeuce82d]

My now departed brother is an example

Sorry for your loss- glad that he has helped others even after his death.

You were first an individual human being at your individual conception and first cell division.

clearly, concisely stating my point- "heartbeat" has nothing to do with it, and detracts from that point.

[Ladysmith]

One of them is Kelly Kroll, a junior at Boston College and president of American Collegians for Life, who says she is a "survivor of the abortion holocaust" because she was adopted. "Myself and my classmates have never known a world in which abortion wasn't legalized," she said. "We've realized that any one of us could have been aborted. When I talk about being a survivor of abortion, I am talking about it from a personal place."

And that is the gulf between the generation who fought for "choice" and the generation who is alive now inspite of it. This issue has a whole different point of view for these young people and, I dare say, a very disturbing one at that.

[Coleus]

Do you have a link for these stats?

[SuziQ]

He said he had been told abortion "tears the arms and legs off."

The truth hurts, doesn't it, Ms. Walker!

[Victoria Delsoul]

Some young people who oppose abortion, and who were born after the Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 declared that were is a constitutional right to abortion, have adopted a new rhetoric. One of them is Kelly Kroll, a junior at Boston College and president of American Collegians for Life, who says she is a "survivor of the abortion holocaust" because she was adopted. "Myself and my classmates have never known a world in which abortion wasn't legalized," she said. "We've realized that any one of us could have been aborted. When I talk about being a survivor of abortion, I am talking about it from a personal place."

Bump.

[Frank_2001]

And one of the reasons for that attitude IMO is the existence of conservative websites such as Free Republic!:)

[Kuksool]

The NEA has been so busy opposing the Iraqi War and brainwashing kids to accept homosexuality as normal that it forgot about abortion rights. In the future, we could be having potential voters who are pro-gay and pro-life. How will politicians pander to them? The future political landscape remains very volatile.

[hocndoc]

They're kids. Kids do better with visual aids. They go from seeing the heart, imagining it beating, then they feel their heart beat and suddenly, the new, unborn human is real. He or she could be/ is them!
I'm proud of these kids.

[hocndoc]

I'm proud of you, and thank you for telling your story.

Some "choice", Huh???