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Appointment with The Apocalypse- the Waco Files
various FR links | 04-28-03 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

Posted on 04/28/2003 5:05:20 AM PDT by backhoe

Read these first:

A Graveyard Called Waco [Free Republic]

Ghosts of Waco haunt the ruins [Free Republic]

The ATF Fired First [Free Republic]

Then begin here:



The FLIR Project
      Posted by E. Pluribus Unum
On 04/19/2003 5:55 PM EDT with 8 comments


FreeRepublic.com ^ | April 15, 2001 | E, Pluribus Unum
     
 
Fed's attack Texas church and burn it to the ground.....
      Posted by ASTM366
On 04/19/2003 5:05 PM EDT with 356 comments


PBS - WGBH/Frontline ^ | 1995 | PBS
     
 
10 years after Waco siege, police face another standoff (Gun Barrel City) - rehash of Waco debacle
      Posted by MeeknMing
On 04/19/2003 12:50 PM EDT with 237 comments


The Dallas Morning News ^ | April 19, 2003 | By DAVE HIOTT / The Dallas Morning News
     
 
Branch Davidian children speak out 10 years after Waco standoff
      Posted by Brian S
On 04/18/2003 8:13 PM EDT with 37 comments


Associated Press ^ | 04-18-03
     
 
10 years later, memories of Waco tragedy linger - fatal Branch Davidian standoff
      Posted by MeeknMing
On 04/17/2003 1:28 PM EDT with 82 comments


Associated Press ^ | April 17, 2003 | Associated Press Staff
     
 
Escaping Waco
      Posted by plain talk
On 04/17/2003 11:21 AM EDT with 355 comments


ABCNews.com ^ | 4/15/03 | Charles Gibson
     
 
Memory of Waco growing dimmer
      Posted by Alissa
On 04/13/2003 1:01 PM EDT with 63 comments


San Antonio Express News ^ | 4/13/2003 | Dick J. Reavis
     
 
Waco vs Iraq
      Posted by cd jones
On 04/12/2003 3:43 PM EDT with 27 comments

     
 
Feds on Waco: Shooting in the dark
      Posted by JohnHuang2
On 04/12/2003 5:18 AM EDT with 9 comments


WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, April 12, 2003 | Barbara Grant
     
 
Expert: Government science failed at Waco
      Posted by JohnHuang2
On 04/12/2003 5:17 AM EDT with 11 comments


WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, April 12, 2003 | Jon Dougherty
     
 
10th Anniversary: The Ghosts of Mt. Carmel
      Posted by sinkspur
On 03/31/2003 9:05 PM EST with 27 comments


Texas Monthly | April, 2003 | Michael Hall
     
 
"Freep The Creep" Clinton Opportunity, Gainesville FL
      Posted by chuknospam
On 03/31/2003 12:41 PM EST with 11 comments


Gainesville Sun ^ | 3-31-2003 | Me
     
 
Former U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno: "Bush failed to balance liberty and security"
      Posted by FairOpinion
On 03/18/2003 12:04 AM EST with 92 comments


Boston.com ^ | March 17, 2003 | AP
     
 
An Interview With Bill Clinton (long)
      Posted by JeanS
On 03/04/2003 3:09 AM EST with 25 comments


The Atlantic Monthly ^ | March 2003 | James Fallows
     
 
Tear Gas May Violate Treaties
      Posted by weegee
On 03/04/2003 2:51 AM EST with 10 comments


AP via Military.com ^ | March 02, 2003 | PAUL ELIAS
     
 
Waco - Survivors mark 10-year anniversary of raid on Branch Davidians
      Posted by HAL9000
On 02/27/2003 11:23 PM EST with 14 comments


Associated Press | February 27, 2003 | ANGELA K. BROWN
 

Head of Sept. 11 Probe Allegedly Obstructed Danforth's Waco Inquiry ( COVER UP )
      Posted by WakeUpChristian
On 06/23/2002 2:13 PM EDT with 34 comments

FBI Director Nominee Mueller Helped FBI and DOJ Cover Up Evidence on Waco, Ruby Ridge, OKC Bombing
      Posted by OKCSubmariner
On 05/28/2002 3:01 PM EDT with 26 comments

Waco Massacre at Mount Carmel
      Posted by NMC EXP
On 04/19/2002 10:09 AM EDT with 24 comments


Constitution Society ^ | n/a | n/a
     
 
Murder in Waco - April 19, 1993
      Posted by ASTM366
On 04/19/2002 10:07 AM EDT with 25 comments

The Agitator Hour 020327 Guest: Film Producer of "Waco: A New Revelation"
      Posted by agitator
On 03/27/2002 6:22 PM EST with 10 comments


Waco: A New Revelation, Reviewed by Gavin Phillips [Free Republic]
... of the ATF/FBI handling of the 51 day siege at Mount Carmel, the home of the Branch Davidians near Waco, Texas. ...

Waco Massacre at Mount Carmel
Posted on 04/19/2002 7:09 AM PDT by NMC EXP ... community called Mount Carmel, outside Waco, Texas, occupied by a sect called the Branch Davidians, led by a man ...

Expert supports Waco-video conclusions: Charge that FBI fired on...
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Waco Fire Report [Free Republic]

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Downside Legacy: Waco - The Trial (2nd Draft) [Free Republic]

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News
KEYWORDS: okcbombing; waco; wacoplusten
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What began as a straightforward search for links on a subject I have never researched before- Waco- quickly took me down stange and dark passages into the close of the last century.

Be sure to follow the "links within the links" to get the full story.

1 posted on 04/28/2003 5:05:20 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
What about Gen Wesley Clark being in command of Ft Hood and ordering spec ops to Waco
orders from Hillarys office?
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/clark.htm
http://www.brasscheck.com/yugoslavia/clarkatwaco.html
2 posted on 04/28/2003 6:16:39 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: joesnuffy
bump
3 posted on 04/28/2003 6:37:37 AM PDT by 2timothy3.16
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To: backhoe
I have no use for the Branch Davidians. I would not join their club.

Having said that, My question is, did they represent a threat to society and had they hurt anyone. The answer is, no. If people leave me alone, I leave them alone. The feds had no sound reason to be there, and not in the numbers and attitude they brought with them.

4 posted on 04/28/2003 6:49:40 AM PDT by RLK
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To: joesnuffy
Appreciate those links- thanks!
5 posted on 04/28/2003 6:59:49 AM PDT by backhoe (Has that Clinton "legacy" made you feel safer yet?)
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To: RLK
I'll never forget what I heard on Mike Reagan's show about 5 years ago- after going over stories similar to the ones above, he asked:

"Where's the outrage?"

The first caller up had the killer answer:

"Waco was about the instilling of fear,
so there would be no outrage..."

6 posted on 04/28/2003 7:08:45 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe
"Waco was about the instilling of fear, so there would be no outrage..."

Brilliant!

But I would expand it to, "Waco was about the instilling of fear, demonizing the victims, and glorifying the perpetrators so there would be no outrage..."

7 posted on 04/28/2003 7:30:34 AM PDT by TXnMA ((No Longer!!!))
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To: TXnMA
I agree with you. By the way, I'll never forget that caller as long as I live- he had the perfect reply.
8 posted on 04/28/2003 7:33:28 AM PDT by backhoe (Has that Clinton "legacy" made you feel safer yet?)
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To: backhoe; joesnuffy
My personal "tinfoil hat conspiracy theory" (that I've never seen published anywhere) is this:

IF full-auto AR-15/M-16 conversion parts somehow found their way into the BD 'compound', then they were ones manufactured by ParkOMeter (Web Hubbell's father-in-law) and destined for Mena to be swapped for drugs -- under Clinton's "Industrialization of Arkansas" program. And the raid (in addition to being an ATF publicity stunt) was designed to recover the evidence ...and "CBA".

9 posted on 04/28/2003 7:44:56 AM PDT by TXnMA ((No Longer!!!))
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To: backhoe
Think this will be mentioned in Hillary's "complete and candid" memoirs?
10 posted on 04/28/2003 9:00:38 AM PDT by cgk (Op. Iraqi Freedom Hero Tribute: http://home.earthlink.net/~mrskoz/index.html)
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To: backhoe
I forgot to mention... the other night, last week there was a double take on Discovery Times channel on Ruby Ridge and the OKC bombing. I wasn't sure if they were also going to cover Waco, but I guess not, never saw it. They really gave what seemed to be an honest accounting of the screw-up that was Ruby Ridge, but spun the hell out of the OKC bombing.
11 posted on 04/28/2003 9:02:38 AM PDT by cgk (Op. Iraqi Freedom Hero Tribute: http://home.earthlink.net/~mrskoz/index.html)
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To: backhoe
"Waco was about the instilling of fear, so there would be no outrage..."

There was enough outrage that the next standoff, with the Montana militia, ended peacefully.

12 posted on 04/28/2003 9:17:48 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
There was enough outrage that the next standoff, with the Montana militia, ended peacefully.

Just barely.

13 posted on 04/28/2003 9:29:05 AM PDT by TigersEye (Democrats are soooo 9/10.)
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To: sinkspur
By the way they weren't called The Montana Milita, were they? It was a group called Free Men. Or Freemen. If they ever called themselves militia then I missed it. If not then the media/gov propaganda worked...on you.
14 posted on 04/28/2003 9:32:46 AM PDT by TigersEye (Democrats are soooo 9/10.)
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To: cgk
I thank you for the information.
15 posted on 04/28/2003 9:40:07 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: TigersEye
It was a group called Free Men. Or Freemen.

I stand corrected, your snottiness aside.

Also, the Feds allowed the Texas Rangers to handle the Republic of Texas, another bunch of nuts who thought they were actually the government of the state. Richard McLaren, the leader, is in prison for a very long time.

16 posted on 04/28/2003 9:44:10 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
What was snotty about my post!? I gave leeway for the fact that I might have missed some information on the subject while demonstrating that on the other hand, if I were right, you had succumbed to the very thing that was intended as the larger objective of Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc..

Nothing snotty about pointing that out. I'm sure you use other poster's words to make your points all the time.

17 posted on 04/28/2003 10:08:17 AM PDT by TigersEye (Democrats are soooo 9/10.)
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To: backhoe
Reeper Foxhole - Military News in Review - April 28, 2003 Posted by AntiJen to weldgophardline; Mon; AZ Flyboy; feinswinesuksass; Michael121; cherry_bomb88; SCDogPapa; Mystix; ... On VetsCoR 04/28/2003 7:35 AM PDT #25 of 68 FALL IN to the FReeper Foxhole! New weekly feature starts today! Thanks Snippy_about_it!! To be removed from this list, please send me a blank private reply with "REMOVE" in the subject line! Thanks! Jen Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies Appointment with The Apocalypse- the Waco Files Posted by backhoe to RLK On News/Activism 04/28/2003 7:08 AM PDT #6 of 17 I'll never forget what I heard on Mike Reagan's show about 5 years ago- after going over stories similar to the ones above, he asked: "Where's the outrage?" The first caller up had the killer answer: "Waco was about the instilling of fear, so there would be no outrage..."

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I wish I had been to one who said that.

18 posted on 04/28/2003 10:13:53 AM PDT by RLK
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To: TigersEye
if I were right, you had succumbed to the very thing that was intended as the larger objective of Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc..

I succumbed to nothing. I know exactly what happened at Waco, the result of which is the government put the brakes on its out-of-control FBI and ATF.

I made a mistake on which group was involved in the standoff in Montana. Nothing more than that.

Let's drop it.

19 posted on 04/28/2003 10:14:44 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Let's drop it.

Sure! OK. I didn't mean to embarrass you.

20 posted on 04/28/2003 10:28:25 AM PDT by TigersEye (Democrats are soooo 9/10.)
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To: TigersEye
I didn't mean to embarrass you.

You didn't embarrass me. But you'll embarrass yourself if you keep this going.

21 posted on 04/28/2003 10:30:12 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
If I didn't embarrass you why did you ask me to drop it?

I made a mistake on which group was involved in the standoff in Montana.

This statement proves my point. You made a mistake, calling the Free Men, Militia. A kneejerk freudian slip which is the result of hearing the propaganda so many times that it becomes the automatic thought you jump to whenever "standoff with the government" is said. I can hardly embarrass myself, the evidence is so obvious.

22 posted on 04/28/2003 10:38:04 AM PDT by TigersEye (Democrats are soooo 9/10.)
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To: TigersEye
Whatever.
23 posted on 04/28/2003 10:40:59 AM PDT by sinkspur
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To: RLK
Thanks for looking- I wish I had said that, too- it's about as a succinct reply as I've ever heard!
24 posted on 04/28/2003 3:55:55 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: All
Remembrance bump... for the dead-
25 posted on 05/26/2003 2:08:52 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1087707/posts
11th Year Anniversary - Fed's Attack Mt. Carmel
PBS, Frontline ^
26 posted on 02/29/2004 12:30:10 AM PST by backhoe
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To: backhoe
Thanks for the links along with all the other efforts you put into so many things here. :)

I've been having some trouble keeping things straight at times.

Offhand,can you tell me whatever became of the standoff situation on Cedar Creek Lake near Gunbarrel City,Texas?

27 posted on 02/29/2004 12:57:54 AM PST by Free Trapper (One with courage is often a majority.)
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To: Free Trapper
I've been having some trouble keeping things straight at times. Offhand,can you tell me whatever became of the standoff situation on Cedar Creek Lake near Gunbarrel City,Texas?

I am similarly challenged- too damn many "issues" to follow as well as I should.

I am not familiar with the situation you mention, but I will look for it later.

28 posted on 02/29/2004 1:10:40 AM PST by backhoe (The balance of Common Sense is tipping toward Non-sense...)
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To: Free Trapper
FYI:

Texas farm standoff enters second year
... The low-intensity standoff between law officers and John Joe Gray has entered ... Mr.
Gray retreated to his property near Cedar Creek Lake last spring and never ...
www.rickross.com/reference/militia/militia37.html - 8k - Cached - Similar pages

Authorities conduct a quiet siege
... they want is "another Waco," alluding to the deadly 1993 standoff with the ... two houses
nestled deep in the Trinity River bottoms just west of Cedar Creek Lake. ...
www.rickross.com/reference/militia/militia29.html - 14k - Cached - Similar pages

5 John Joe Gray (Houston Chronicle)
... Standoff continues amid attack rumors. ... Gray has been holed up with more than a dozen
family members on his wooded 47-acre spread near Cedar Creek Lake, 70 miles ...
www.embassyofheaven.com/current/johnjoe5.htm - 20k - Cached - Similar pages

1 John Joe Gray (Dallas Observer)
... Past Cedar Creek Lake, out Highway 274, then onto a blacktop lane leading to a narrow ... Long
before there was a Waco standoff and the world knew of David Koresh ...
www.embassyofheaven.com/current/johnjoe1.htm - 33k - Cached - Similar pages

November 2, 2000
... December, the Grays have refused to leave their property near Cedar Creek Lake near
Trinidad ... family on behalf of the Ellis County Press after the standoff began ...
www.elliscountypress.com/archive2000/ november_2_2000.htm - 51k - Cached - Similar pages

August 31 2000
... The result is a similar standoff to the start of the Branch Davidian ... on its 47-acre
property on the Trinity River bottom west of Cedar Creek Lake between Tool ...
www.elliscountypress.com/archive2000/ august_31_2000.htm - 33k - Cached - Similar pages

http://www.dallasnews.com/texas_southwest/203527_norris_31tex.A. ...
... Ranger on television, has jumped into the middle of a standoff between real ... posted
bail on the charges and then retreated to his property near Cedar Creek Lake. ...
www.no-debts.com/anti-federalist/gray/nov11-00.txt - 6k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

10 years after Waco siege, police face another standoff (Gun ...
... day in another standoff, now nearly three years old. Militant fundamentalist John
Joe Gray, 54, retreated to his 47 acres near Cedar Creek Lake about 40 miles ...
209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/896402/posts - 51k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

29 posted on 03/01/2004 4:07:57 PM PST by backhoe
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To: backhoe
Ask backhoe a simple question and I get a full encyclopedia as an answer. :O)

Big thanks for all the links,I'd been wondering what the story was but kept getting a little here and a touch there,not enough to understand the situation at all.

.

So far I've only read a couple of the links but did note one thing.

The altercation Gray had with the Texas Troopers happened near Palistine,which is not far from Noonday,maybe 30 miles.

Noonday is where the stash of guns,bombs,bomb making supplies,etc. were found in a storage rental.

The guy that had the stash was from the N.E.part of the Country and was investigated for selling false IDs,I believe.

The two situations happening so close to each other struck me but it's probably just coincidence.

.

I've spent a lot of time working on both Cedar Creek Lake and Lake Palistine,besides having family near Noonday,so I know the area pretty well.

30 posted on 03/01/2004 7:59:48 PM PST by Free Trapper (One with courage is often a majority.)
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To: backhoe
Also,David Koresh's bunch had property somewhere near Palistine,I believe.

Probably coincidence but it sure seems strange having all these things so close together.

31 posted on 03/01/2004 8:09:47 PM PST by Free Trapper (One with courage is often a majority.)
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To: Free Trapper
The altercation Gray had with the Texas Troopers happened near Palistine,which is not far from Noonday,maybe 30 miles. Noonday is where the stash of guns,bombs,bomb making supplies,etc. were found in a storage rental.

Sonny Bitch!

32 posted on 03/02/2004 2:53:14 AM PST by backhoe (Another artifact left over from The Decade of Fraud(s)...)
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To: backhoe
It is somewhat strange and if I recall,The Branch Davidians nearly built their Church on the property near Palestine before building near Waco but still owned the property during the seige and may still.

Excuse my spelling of Palestine in the other post.Sleepy and medicated.

33 posted on 03/02/2004 1:51:35 PM PST by Free Trapper (One with courage is often a majority.)
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To: All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1161390/posts
WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT WACO


34 posted on 06/28/2004 12:29:33 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: All

^... for remembrance.


35 posted on 09/12/2004 4:44:20 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: All
 WACO the rules of engagement ( Multi-page thread 1 2 3 4 )

36 posted on 06/13/2005 4:42:55 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trakball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: All
 Waco: a look back (Multi-page thread 1 2 3)
 

37 posted on 10/18/2005 4:58:38 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: All
Waco, The rules of engagement.-- in the end killed them all. Be certain to have a good stiff drink if you're going to watch this, as it is repugnant.

38 posted on 03/05/2006 11:19:00 AM PST by backhoe
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To: All
http://www.mipt.org/murrahfinalrpt.asp
"Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building Bombing, April 19, 1995: Final Report"
39 posted on 04/19/2006 2:44:00 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe

bookmark


40 posted on 09/27/2006 1:57:00 PM PDT by beltfed308 (Nanny Statists are Ameba's.)
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To: backhoe

Bump


41 posted on 09/27/2006 1:59:18 PM PDT by sport
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To: beltfed308; sport

Thanks for looking- another file still open on "the most ethical administration in history..."


42 posted on 09/27/2006 2:45:42 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: backhoe

Great links and I have gone through and read every single thread. Most of the facts I already knew but seeing the posters names for the apologists and the ensuing debates was very educational.

The one thing I have been looking for is the unedited initial raid. I saw it very early in the morning with Koresh at the door yelling that there were women and children inside. What followed after that had me seething. Many posters have reported the same thing so I know it was not my imagination.

Again, Thanks for all the hard work you have done.

Best regards,

Steve


43 posted on 09/28/2006 7:27:11 AM PDT by beltfed308 (Nanny Statists are Ameba's.)
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To: backhoe
The Clintons did know how to fight their perceived enemies within, sadly they built walls throughout government to cell off collection of intel to prevent foreign enemies from setting up shop.

I am still repulsed by Clinton's continual blaming of the 'right wing' for all his weakness and his malignant neglect of worldwide terrorism.
44 posted on 09/28/2006 7:34:01 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts; beltfed308
Thank you both- as an early attempt at guerilla warfare, I donated my copy of "Rules of Engagement" to the Library here. Have no idea if they kept it or who might have seen it- the web was in its infancy then.

There's plenty of information out now- we just can't undo the past.

45 posted on 09/28/2006 1:20:45 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an Old Keyboard Cowboy, Ridin' the Trakball into the Dawn of Information)
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To: backhoe

Bookmarked...Waco...Oodles of valuable info.


46 posted on 12/22/2006 9:21:57 PM PST by AmeriBrit
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To: AmeriBrit
Seasons Greetings to you, and yours...


47 posted on 12/23/2006 4:48:24 AM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin’ his way across the WWW…)
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To: backhoe
Thankyou very much. Santa was much too good to me but I'm not complaining, :) HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND BEST WISHES FOR A GREAT ONE ALL YEAR LONG!
48 posted on 12/26/2006 1:42:02 AM PST by AmeriBrit
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To: All

VIDEO: THE FLIR PROJECT (Did Eric Holder and John Danforth Lie About Waco?)

Just today I learned that Eric Holder was Acting Attorney General for the Danforth Branch Davidian massacre report.

U.S. attorney general nominee Eric Holder not questioned about Waco Branch Davidian siege

In honor of this information, I dug up my VHS tape of "The FLIR Project," recorded it digitally and uploaded it to YouTube.

The F.L.I.R. Project Part 1

The F.L.I.R. Project Part 2

The F.L.I.R. Project Part 3

The F.L.I.R. Project Part 4


49 posted on 03/08/2009 3:58:20 AM PDT by backhoe (All across America, the Lights are going out...)
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To: backhoe

bttt


50 posted on 12/30/2009 8:46:05 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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