Appointment with The Apocalypse- the Waco Files

various FR links | 04-28-03 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

[backhoe]

Read these first:

A Graveyard Called Waco [Free Republic]

Ghosts of Waco haunt the ruins [Free Republic]

The ATF Fired First [Free Republic]

Then begin here:

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The FLIR Project
			Posted by E. Pluribus Unum On 04/19/2003 5:55 PM EDT with 8 comments FreeRepublic.com ^ | April 15, 2001 | E, Pluribus Unum
Fed's attack Texas church and burn it to the ground.....
			Posted by ASTM366 On 04/19/2003 5:05 PM EDT with 356 comments PBS - WGBH/Frontline ^ | 1995 | PBS
10 years after Waco siege, police face another standoff (Gun Barrel City) - rehash of Waco debacle
			Posted by MeeknMing On 04/19/2003 12:50 PM EDT with 237 comments The Dallas Morning News ^ | April 19, 2003 | By DAVE HIOTT / The Dallas Morning News
Branch Davidian children speak out 10 years after Waco standoff
			Posted by Brian S On 04/18/2003 8:13 PM EDT with 37 comments Associated Press ^ | 04-18-03
10 years later, memories of Waco tragedy linger - fatal Branch Davidian standoff
			Posted by MeeknMing On 04/17/2003 1:28 PM EDT with 82 comments Associated Press ^ | April 17, 2003 | Associated Press Staff
Escaping Waco
			Posted by plain talk On 04/17/2003 11:21 AM EDT with 355 comments ABCNews.com ^ | 4/15/03 | Charles Gibson
Memory of Waco growing dimmer
			Posted by Alissa On 04/13/2003 1:01 PM EDT with 63 comments San Antonio Express News ^ | 4/13/2003 | Dick J. Reavis
Waco vs Iraq
			Posted by cd jones On 04/12/2003 3:43 PM EDT with 27 comments
Feds on Waco: Shooting in the dark
			Posted by JohnHuang2 On 04/12/2003 5:18 AM EDT with 9 comments WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, April 12, 2003 | Barbara Grant
Expert: Government science failed at Waco
			Posted by JohnHuang2 On 04/12/2003 5:17 AM EDT with 11 comments WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Saturday, April 12, 2003 | Jon Dougherty
10th Anniversary: The Ghosts of Mt. Carmel
			Posted by sinkspur On 03/31/2003 9:05 PM EST with 27 comments Texas Monthly | April, 2003 | Michael Hall
"Freep The Creep" Clinton Opportunity, Gainesville FL
			Posted by chuknospam On 03/31/2003 12:41 PM EST with 11 comments Gainesville Sun ^ | 3-31-2003 | Me
Former U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno: "Bush failed to balance liberty and security"
			Posted by FairOpinion On 03/18/2003 12:04 AM EST with 92 comments Boston.com ^ | March 17, 2003 | AP
An Interview With Bill Clinton (long)
			Posted by JeanS On 03/04/2003 3:09 AM EST with 25 comments The Atlantic Monthly ^ | March 2003 | James Fallows
Tear Gas May Violate Treaties
			Posted by weegee On 03/04/2003 2:51 AM EST with 10 comments AP via Military.com ^ | March 02, 2003 | PAUL ELIAS
Waco - Survivors mark 10-year anniversary of raid on Branch Davidians
			Posted by HAL9000 On 02/27/2003 11:23 PM EST with 14 comments Associated Press | February 27, 2003 | ANGELA K. BROWN

Head of Sept. 11 Probe Allegedly Obstructed Danforth's Waco Inquiry ( COVER UP )

Posted by WakeUpChristian
On 06/23/2002 2:13 PM EDT with 34 comments

FBI Director Nominee Mueller Helped FBI and DOJ Cover Up Evidence on Waco, Ruby Ridge, OKC Bombing

Posted by OKCSubmariner
On 05/28/2002 3:01 PM EDT with 26 comments

Waco Massacre at Mount Carmel
			Posted by NMC EXP On 04/19/2002 10:09 AM EDT with 24 comments Constitution Society ^ | n/a | n/a
Murder in Waco - April 19, 1993
			Posted by ASTM366 On 04/19/2002 10:07 AM EDT with 25 comments

The Agitator Hour 020327 Guest: Film Producer of "Waco: A New Revelation"

Posted by agitator
On 03/27/2002 6:22 PM EST with 10 comments

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Waco: A New Revelation, Reviewed by Gavin Phillips [Free Republic]
... of the ATF/FBI handling of the 51 day siege at Mount Carmel, the home of the Branch Davidians near Waco, Texas. ...

. Waco Massacre at Mount Carmel
Posted on 04/19/2002 7:09 AM PDT by NMC EXP ... community called Mount Carmel, outside Waco, Texas, occupied by a sect called the Branch Davidians, led by a man ...

. Expert supports Waco-video conclusions: Charge that FBI fired on...
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Topic: Waco
various sources in 1993 mid/late 1993 pjd This is a summary of events surrounding the Waco tragedy, exerpted from a thread on Compuserve back in 1993. ... by federal agencies during the siege at Mount Carmel. Web Posted: 12/07/97 20:03:27 PST ... the standoff at Waco, Texas, between the Branch Davidians and two agencies ...

Summary of Waco events [Free Republic] [Free Republic]

'Shooting At Davidians From Helicopters Is Unprecedented in American...

Waco Fire Report [Free Republic]

Death of 3 Delta Force members prompts questions about Mount Carmel...

IS THERE EVIDENCE THE HELICOPTERS FIRED ON MOUNT CARMEL? [Free...

Downside Legacy: Waco - The Trial (2nd Draft) [Free Republic]

Military forces' role in Waco challenged: Affadavit Implicates Delta...

Attorney: Bullet holes evidence ATF was aggressor at Mount Carmel...

FBI OBTAINED 250 HIGH EXPLOSIVE ROUNDS FROM ARMY FOR USE DURING WACO...

DSL Research: WACO - Hole in the Bunker and Fireball (3rd thread)...

Waco: Sniper's Nest Revealed [Free Republic]

DSL Research: Waco-Hole in the Bunker and Fireball (4th Thread) [Free...

New Documentary Links First Lady and Foster to Waco [Free Republic]

New Evidence Shows Whitewash of FBI Role at Waco [Free Republic]

Downside Legacy on WACO-NOW 9/13/99 to 9/17/99 [Free Republic]

Lawyer says FBI plotted at Waco [Free Republic]

Waco A New Revelation:Review [Free Republic]

What Happened at Waco? - Alamo-Girl's First Theory (Thread 5) [Free...

What Is The Life Expectancy Of A Waco Investigator? [Free Republic]

Fanatic cult in armed siege near Waco site [Free Republic]

Feds investigate use of military aircraft in Mount Carmel raid [Free...

WACO - A Carefully Planned Event? (part VII) [Free Republic]

Media Played Dumb on Official Waco Dissent Three Years Ago [Free...

The answers to four questions will tell the tale of Waco [Free...

Wacos truth trickles out [Free Republic]

FLIR Aircraft Orbiting Waco Belonged to SAS --NOT FBI [Free Republic]

Waco Fire Continues to Burn on the Web [Free Republic]

CLINTON ON SLAIN ATF AGENTS AT WACO: "Three of those four were...

Promotions for everyone involved at Waco _also headshots [Free...

CATO Blasts Danforth Waco Report [Free Republic]

EQUIPMENT FAILURE LEFT DAVIDIAN BODIES UNUSABLE FOR STUDY, LAWYERS...

Government Terrorism [Free Republic]

Transcripts from bugging of Branch Davidian compound [Free Republic]

FBI, Delta Force, ATF, All fire Shots into Mt. Carmal killing...

BRANCH DAVIDIAN SURVIVORS SPEAK OUT [Free Republic]

Reno Planned Final Assault with Delta Force Operatives [Free...

***AGENT TOLD OF HEARING FBI SHOTS*** [Free Republic]

FEMA - The Secret Government [Free Republic]

GOVERNMENT TERRORISM [Free Republic]

Partisan Interview: Mike McNulty [Free Republic]

Downside Legacy on WACO - Back Then [Free Republic]

Excerpt:"Communication Stream of Conspiracy Commerce"

Massive Obstruction of Justice in Oklahoma Bombing Investigation....

The Final Incineration and Death of the Davidians [Free Republic]

'Vince Foster's Gun' Serial Number Searched --BEFORE-- Death [Free...

Assault on Waco (long post) [Free Republic]

WACO UPDATE: Fifth Annual Memorial Service

From Waco To Belgrade: Wesley K. Clark and America's "Army of the...

HOLOCAUST AT WACO [Free Republic]

FLIR NIGHTVISION EXPERT "GOVERNMENT Fired Shots" Into WACO On Day Of...

What Washington Is Still Trying to Hide About Waco, In the December...

Trooper describes oddities at Waco [Free Republic]

GOVERNMENT TERRORISM - From Ruby Ridge To Waco And Beyond [Free...

***Freeper Sleuthing Challenge: Waco Shootout KIA Doc Also Did...

Downside Legacy: WACO - Carlos Ghigliotti Death (Thread 6) [Free...

FILMMAKER: TRAIL OF WACO DOCUMENTS LEADS TO FIRST LADY'S OFFICE [Free...

What you don't know about Waco [Free Republic]

From 1995 PBS Waco Documentary Transcript -- Who In The FBI Told The...

FBI Alerted Dallas Hospital Hours Before Waco Fire [Free Republic]

Special Forces Involved in Waco Raid! (excerpts) [Free Republic]

Appointment with The Apocalypse [Free Republic]

"This Is Not An Assault" - Penetrating the Web of Official Lies Re:...

After All, It Was For The Children! [Free Republic]

The Secret Life of Bill Clinton

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Oklahoma City was an American Reichstag event [Free Republic]

Importance of Jane Graham--UPDATE Thread II [Free Republic]

[backhoe]

What began as a straightforward search for links on a subject I have never researched before- Waco- quickly took me down stange and dark passages into the close of the last century.

Be sure to follow the "links within the links" to get the full story.

[joesnuffy]

What about Gen Wesley Clark being in command of Ft Hood and ordering spec ops to Waco
orders from Hillarys office?
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/clark.htm
http://www.brasscheck.com/yugoslavia/clarkatwaco.html

[2timothy3.16]

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[RLK]

I have no use for the Branch Davidians. I would not join their club.

Having said that, My question is, did they represent a threat to society and had they hurt anyone. The answer is, no. If people leave me alone, I leave them alone. The feds had no sound reason to be there, and not in the numbers and attitude they brought with them.

[backhoe]

Appreciate those links- thanks!

[backhoe]

I'll never forget what I heard on Mike Reagan's show about 5 years ago- after going over stories similar to the ones above, he asked:

"Where's the outrage?"

The first caller up had the killer answer:

"Waco was about the instilling of fear,
so there would be no outrage..."

[TXnMA]

"Waco was about the instilling of fear, so there would be no outrage..."

Brilliant!

But I would expand it to, "Waco was about the instilling of fear, demonizing the victims, and glorifying the perpetrators so there would be no outrage..."

[backhoe]

I agree with you. By the way, I'll never forget that caller as long as I live- he had the perfect reply.

[TXnMA]

My personal "tinfoil hat conspiracy theory" (that I've never seen published anywhere) is this:

IF full-auto AR-15/M-16 conversion parts somehow found their way into the BD 'compound', then they were ones manufactured by ParkOMeter (Web Hubbell's father-in-law) and destined for Mena to be swapped for drugs -- under Clinton's "Industrialization of Arkansas" program. And the raid (in addition to being an ATF publicity stunt) was designed to recover the evidence ...and "CBA".

[cgk]

Think this will be mentioned in Hillary's "complete and candid" memoirs?

[cgk]

I forgot to mention... the other night, last week there was a double take on Discovery Times channel on Ruby Ridge and the OKC bombing. I wasn't sure if they were also going to cover Waco, but I guess not, never saw it. They really gave what seemed to be an honest accounting of the screw-up that was Ruby Ridge, but spun the hell out of the OKC bombing.

[sinkspur]

"Waco was about the instilling of fear, so there would be no outrage..."

There was enough outrage that the next standoff, with the Montana militia, ended peacefully.

[TigersEye]

There was enough outrage that the next standoff, with the Montana militia, ended peacefully.

Just barely.

[TigersEye]

By the way they weren't called The Montana Milita, were they? It was a group called Free Men. Or Freemen. If they ever called themselves militia then I missed it. If not then the media/gov propaganda worked...on you.

[backhoe]

I thank you for the information.

[sinkspur]

It was a group called Free Men. Or Freemen.

I stand corrected, your snottiness aside.

Also, the Feds allowed the Texas Rangers to handle the Republic of Texas, another bunch of nuts who thought they were actually the government of the state. Richard McLaren, the leader, is in prison for a very long time.

[TigersEye]

What was snotty about my post!? I gave leeway for the fact that I might have missed some information on the subject while demonstrating that on the other hand, if I were right, you had succumbed to the very thing that was intended as the larger objective of Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc..

Nothing snotty about pointing that out. I'm sure you use other poster's words to make your points all the time.

[RLK]

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I wish I had been to one who said that.

[sinkspur]

if I were right, you had succumbed to the very thing that was intended as the larger objective of Ruby Ridge, Waco, etc..

I succumbed to nothing. I know exactly what happened at Waco, the result of which is the government put the brakes on its out-of-control FBI and ATF.

I made a mistake on which group was involved in the standoff in Montana. Nothing more than that.

Let's drop it.

[TigersEye]

Let's drop it.

Sure! OK. I didn't mean to embarrass you.