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Pilot: Flying Bush was 'just awesome'
usatoday.com ^ | 2/05/03

Posted on 05/02/2003 8:46:14 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:40:38 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Navy pilot John "Skip" Lussier has made hundreds of aircraft carrier landings but none like his pressure-filled touchdown on the USS Abraham Lincoln with President Bush in the cockpit.

"The pressure was ratcheted up just a little bit, but I tried not to think about it," Lussier said Friday on ABC's Good Morning America. "I just wanted to focus on it as a mission and make sure I got the president aboard safely."


(Excerpt) Read more at usatoday.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; carrierbush; johnlussier; navy; navyone; pictures; presidentbush
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Awesome.

I wish it were me.

On the plane of course.

However, IF I were the president of the USA..........

OK I'll save that for another thread!

Congrats all on having a fabulous president!

1 posted on 05/02/2003 8:46:14 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
It was Awesome, eh? Um, Duh!! This is breaking news?
2 posted on 05/02/2003 8:48:06 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
that always looks good on a resume'


3 posted on 05/02/2003 8:48:11 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Nice to see he got some stick time.
4 posted on 05/02/2003 8:48:31 AM PDT by Publius
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Ideally planes are caught by the second cable.

Try the three wire.

5 posted on 05/02/2003 8:48:31 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
This story repeats it self in whole or in part several times. This story repeats it self in whole or in part several times. This story repeats it self in whole or in part several times. Good story though.
6 posted on 05/02/2003 8:50:36 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Smokers are people too, most are good people. But Will Rogers never met me.)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
The fourth is not the last but the first.
7 posted on 05/02/2003 8:51:35 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5 % of the time.)
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To: Destro
Miss the prunes this morning?
8 posted on 05/02/2003 8:51:42 AM PDT by JennysCool
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
awesome

However, aircraft always come in at full power

Wrong. Full power is applied on touch down in case of a missed wire, bolter. Fly an approach at full power and the LSO will wave you off.

9 posted on 05/02/2003 8:51:58 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
According to John Scott who is on board the USS Abraham Lincoln, the New York Times wrongly (so what's new?) reported that the pilot grabbed the fourth & last cable. It WAS the fourth cable, but it wasn't the last. It was actually the first. The cables are numbered 4,3,2,1. The numbers start with 4 from the first cable at the approach end of the carrier and go down to 1. The New York Times just can't stop their bias with our President!!
10 posted on 05/02/2003 8:52:14 AM PDT by mass55th
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Fox reported this morning that it was caught by the #4 cable.

The #4 cable is the first cable to catch, not the last.

The New York Times reported that the #4 cable was the last cable and everyone has been repeating that ever since in error.
11 posted on 05/02/2003 8:53:05 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Yep, I caught that, too.
12 posted on 05/02/2003 8:53:11 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
On the landing, a tailhook on the back of the plane caught the last of four steel arresting cables

Media moron alert

Well technically I guess it did catch the last one BUT IT ALSO CAUGHT THE OTHER THREE

13 posted on 05/02/2003 8:54:02 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: Destro
oh come on..give the poster a break. Besides, posting a USATODAY article is just the kind of information I like to see. USATODAY is read by the masses, we need to to know what they're being fed, in this case, a most flattering article about just one of America's pilots, who most certainly deserve the attention.
14 posted on 05/02/2003 8:55:13 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Thanks for posting this, when this Navy Pilot has grand children. They will ask him what he did in the great Iraqi War Victory. He will hand them this picture with GW's autograph and a personal thank you. Then he will share this flight with them.


15 posted on 05/02/2003 8:55:20 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: mass55th
The numbers start with 4 from the first cable at the approach end of the carrier and go down to 1. The New York Times just can't stop their bias with our President!!

Wrong. The approach end of the carrier is the stern of the ship. From the stern forward, the cables are numbered 1, 2, 3, 4. They snagged the last cable, number 4.

16 posted on 05/02/2003 8:55:32 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: freedomlover
Well technically I guess it did catch the last one BUT IT ALSO CAUGHT THE OTHER THREE

HUH?

17 posted on 05/02/2003 8:56:04 AM PDT by ericthecurdog
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
On the landing, a tailhook on the back of the plane caught the last of four steel arresting cables stretched across the moving carrier. The cables stop the aircraft within 350 feet, subjecting passengers to twice the force of gravity, or two G's. Ideally planes are caught by the second cable.

Incorrect interpretation by usatoday and many other outlets.

Fox a little while ago wanted people to know that Cmdr Lussier caught what is known as the fourth cable, but that is actually the FIRST one in position.

This was called a picture-perfect landing by the Fox guy.

18 posted on 05/02/2003 8:56:17 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: Destro
Sure beats most of your so called breaking news. Go find something great about the Russian Army and post it!
19 posted on 05/02/2003 8:56:41 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
It was good for Smedley Butler?
20 posted on 05/02/2003 8:56:56 AM PDT by ericthecurdog
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

030501-N-6020P-017 Pacific Ocean (May 1, 2003) -- President George W. Bush successfully traps aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) in a S-3B Viking assigned to the Blue Wolves of Sea Control Squadron Three Five (VS-35) designated "NAVY 1". President Bush is the first sitting President to trap aboard an aircraft carrier at sea. The President is conducting a visit aboard ship to meet with the Sailors and will address the Nation as Lincoln prepares to return from a 10-month deployment to the Arabian Gulf in support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate Airman Gabriel Piper. (RELEASED)

21 posted on 05/02/2003 8:57:30 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Someone pointed out yesterday that it would be highly unusual for this particular aircraft to catch the "first" cable, due to a certain aerodynamic characteristic that makes it "float" on a landing approach.

I'd be interested to hear from any Freepers out there who have some direct experience with this kind of thing.

22 posted on 05/02/2003 8:58:16 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: ericthecurdog
Doesn't the hook catch all the cables it can as it passes?

(preparing to be humiliated by someone who knows)

23 posted on 05/02/2003 8:58:17 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: DB
The #4 cable is the first cable to catch, not the last.

Incorrect. The number four wire is the last wire, not the first. Cables are numbered from aft to fore. The Times is correct and you are wrong.

25 posted on 05/02/2003 8:58:47 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: freedomlover
Doesn't the hook catch all the cables it can as it passes?

Nope. Ideally, it catches the three-wire. The cable then absorbs the kinetic energy of the aircraft (it reels out from under the deck) and brings it to a stop.

26 posted on 05/02/2003 9:00:43 AM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Thats a great pic..
27 posted on 05/02/2003 9:00:49 AM PDT by ewing
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
I invented the #4 cable. And the other three, too.

Al Gore

P.S. I invented the aircraft carrier, too. But that's another story.

28 posted on 05/02/2003 9:00:53 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Corin Stormhands; g'nad
There's a stewardess joke in that headline somewhere.....*ducks*
29 posted on 05/02/2003 9:01:07 AM PDT by ksen (HHD,FRM)
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To: freedomlover
No, you may be thinking of some of the World War I and II videos where the planes would catch several wires as it landed. On modern aircraft carriers, the tailhook only catches one wire.
30 posted on 05/02/2003 9:01:10 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: freedomlover
Doesn't the hook catch all the cables it can as it passes?

No. You catch one wire. One is enough.

31 posted on 05/02/2003 9:01:21 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: mass55th
I missed this fact, as did every newscast on last night's TV news. I thought the 4th was the last.
32 posted on 05/02/2003 9:01:46 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
I take it the others retract after one gets hooked?
33 posted on 05/02/2003 9:02:16 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
How nice to have a Republican president who has a strong intuitive understanding of how to plan and carry out really effective PR events. Reagan understood it, too. Some public figures have an odd tin ear about this and would not survive without their handlers (even then, not carrying off very well a PR event that advisors put together).

The Clintons' PR behavior clearly was effective with certain groups, but it always just made me ill, and the Wellstone funeral was an example of very, very poor understanding of how an event would resonate with the public.

I am so glad Bush does this well.

34 posted on 05/02/2003 9:02:29 AM PDT by Irene Adler
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To: Grampa Dave
Can I post it as "Breaking News?" and call it awesome?
35 posted on 05/02/2003 9:05:07 AM PDT by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorisim by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Alberta's Child
ROFLMAO! Good one!
36 posted on 05/02/2003 9:05:16 AM PDT by Calpernia (www.HelpFeedaChild.com)
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
I'm just repeating what Fox's John Scott reported directly from the USS Abraham Lincoln. He said that that was the information he had received from people aboard the ship.
37 posted on 05/02/2003 9:06:21 AM PDT by mass55th
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To: Alberta's Child
Catching the number one wire is not good, indicative of a low approach. Dangerous, possibility of a ramp strike, etc. On other threads there is a Naval Aviator who has direct experience with trapping a Viking. He confirms the floating characteristic.
38 posted on 05/02/2003 9:07:09 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: freedomlover
Huh? The video showed that it clearly caught only the last cable.
39 posted on 05/02/2003 9:07:44 AM PDT by July 4th
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To: Irene Adler
You are right and the underlying principles that guide these people is one of the reasons for the results we see. The DemoncRATs and the Clinton / McAuliffe wing, in particular, are only interested in power and thus the debacle of hatred that became the Wellstone pep-rally. On the other hand, Bush & Co. seek to liberate freed people, heap praise & respect upon the troops and demonstrate the prestige of the US to fend off would-be evil-doers resulting in the glorious & powerful messages in both vision & words that we were treated to yesterday.
40 posted on 05/02/2003 9:08:06 AM PDT by Steven W.
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41 posted on 05/02/2003 9:08:08 AM PDT by ewing
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To: freedomlover
If anyone cares there was a monster live thread going on during the landing and some guy posted some code-type lingo that appeared to represent the "official" reported altitude/attitude/whatever of the plane as it came in.

Have no idea where it can from or if it was legit.

42 posted on 05/02/2003 9:09:14 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: Jakarta ex-pat

43 posted on 05/02/2003 9:09:43 AM PDT by ewing
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To: Poohbah; SMEDLEYBUTLER
OK guys, how many times have you had to correct people on this topic in the past 24 hours?

You know, it really is a simple concept. I find it hard to believe people can't understand it. The plane approaches the deck on which there are 4 arrestor cables. Obvioulsly, the FIRST cable it reaches would be cable number one. The SECOND cable it reaches would be number two. And on to number four.

It really makes watching the news almost impossible when you know more than the reporters, and they aren't ashamed to demonstrated how much they don't know.

Anyway, thanks for continuing to correct the record.

44 posted on 05/02/2003 9:09:45 AM PDT by TomB
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To: freedomlover
The other three remain in place as the plane travels over them. The wire that gets snagged reels out.
45 posted on 05/02/2003 9:10:01 AM PDT by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: DB
The #4 cable is the first cable to catch, not the last.

Incorrect. The wires are number ordered from the aft to forward on the deck. The targeted wire is usually #3 because it is safely forward of the stern of the ship and still provides plenty of area for run out and margin of the angle deck. If #3 is down for maintenance, #2 is targeted. #1 is short landing and least desired due to the risk of ramp strike. #4 is landing long, the safer alternative to being short.

46 posted on 05/02/2003 9:10:31 AM PDT by Magnum44 (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Alberta's Child
Thanks for the best laugh.......how could we have forgotten albore's excellent inventions.
47 posted on 05/02/2003 9:10:52 AM PDT by OldFriend (without the brave, there would be no land of the free)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
"Once he got into the brief he just started remembering. It was a bonding of aviators. When we got into the plane, I gave him the stick and it was like he hadn't left the cockpit."

I'm sure President Bush enjoyed the experience immensely. IIRC, he also got to fly some wing formation. I'm sure the skills came back quickly. What an honor it would be to have him on your airplane!

What a great guy! You could just tell he was loving every minute of it.

If this had been clinton, he would probably have puked his head off in the first 5 minutes after takeoff. Then after being carried off the airplane he would have taken a shower in the Captain's cabin and returned to grope all the babes while telling everybody what a great President he is. Watching the preening would have been unbearable for those sailors, not to mention the rest of us.

I remember one time in 1996 clinton came to our base campaigning for President. Everybody was encouraged to go to the big hangar for his rally. Fortunately for him, the campaign bussed in a bunch of union members and welfare "clients" from the city as almost nobody on base would even walk across the street to see him. The TV camera shots were all close in, not crowd shots because the crowd was so small. After all, how many fat welfare recipients and union thugs can you crowd into four greyhound busses?

48 posted on 05/02/2003 9:11:11 AM PDT by Gritty
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To: July 4th
I didn't get to see any video beyond the live fuzzy internet feed as it happened.
49 posted on 05/02/2003 9:11:33 AM PDT by freedomlover
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To: ewing
Now doesn't that picture seem more indicative of a family get together rather than a presidential address?

50 posted on 05/02/2003 9:11:46 AM PDT by Calpernia (www.HelpFeedaChild.com)
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