Sick tanker crew headed for SARS-hit Hong Kong

Reuters ^ | May 3, 2003

[aristeides]

It would really be very striking and important if there is an Indian immunity...

Especially if, as the article suggests, the immunity is not hereditary, but a result of exposure to some (relatively harmless) disease. It suggests that the equivalent of a cowpox can be found for SARS.

[The Pheonix]

The Deputy Prime Minister of Singapore, B-Gen. Lee had just released a press statement a few days ago, dispelling some myths and misconceptions about SARS, one of them is that India Indians are immune to SARS

He released statistics from the S'pore SARS cases to point out that of all the cases , 10% are Indians, although Indians account for only a few percent of Singapore population

[Judith Anne]

Thank you for that information. I didn't think there was any significant amount of genotype immunity. Still, aristeides has a good idea, is there a relatively mild virus that will help boost SARS immunity?

[The Pheonix]

Your're welcome

Yes, I also think that Aristeides's idea is good and it may just work.

[Future Useless Eater]

SARS Mortality Rates [reflects treatment] Based on World Health Organization daily tables                 (Revised: 5/04am)
Area	Recoveries to date	Deaths to date	Recent** Death Rate		Active Cases still in Danger	Projected Future Deaths	Projected Cumulative Mortality
Hong Kong	898	179	17.9%		544	97	17.0%
Singapore	147	25	16.0%		31	5	14.8%
China	1406	190	36.0%		2375	854	26.3%
Canada	94	22	19.0%		33	6	18.8%
elsewhere [26 countries]	157	19	17.4%		114	20	13.4%
World-wide [all 30 countries]	2702	435			3097	982	22.7%
**  ( Deaths in the last 7 days) / ( Deaths + Recoveries in the last 7 days)

Observations - Treatment:
• Most areas had small improvements, resulting in the
  projected Mortality being improved to 22.7%.

Trend - Active Cases Still in Danger [reflects containment]
Date	Hong Kong	Singapore	China	Canada	elsewhere 26 countries	World-wide all 30 countries
Apr 19	914	61	307	62		1616
Apr 20	893	64	497	65		1694
Apr 21 (est.)	872	66	686	66		1771
Apr 22	874	60	708	61	80	1783
Apr 23	831	58	968	62	86	2005
Apr 24	812	55	1058	58	76	2059
Apr 25	781	50	1209	51	78	2169
Apr 26	774	51	1346	47	86	2304
Apr 27 (est.)	738	45	1415	47	98	2336
Apr 28	709	39	1484	47	108	2387
Apr 29	663	38	1833	40	108	2682
Apr 30	641	38	1969	41	132	2821
May 1	604	33	2117	40	117	2911
May 2	563	32	2246	34	119	2994
May 3	544	31	2375	33	114	3097
(includes new daily cases... excludes cases resolved by death or recovery)

Observations - Containment:
• The 'elsewhere' (26 countries) may have plateau'ed.
• China is the only area still in the red with increasing ACTIVE casecounts.
• Singapore and Canada seem to be in a horserace to get to ZERO active cases.
  (Canada had 7 new cases this week, Singapore +5 cases, maybe
  more if this tanker crew gets credited to Singapore.)

[Future Useless Eater]

SARS - Treatment/Containment tables - update with Saturday numbers here

[Judith Anne]

Thank you very much. Lots of sick people still in danger...projected total mortality rates of SARS sufferers at 22%--yikes!

[Dog Gone]

You are to be commended for the effort you put into this. It's quick and easy to grasp. Thanks.

[blam]

"SARS - Treatment/Containment tables - update with Saturday numbers here.

Why do you think we're not hearing/seeing these percentage numbers in the mainline press?

[Future Useless Eater]

Why do you think we're not hearing/seeing these percentage numbers in the mainline press?

my opinion- partly denial, partly numerical handicaps in the press

[blam]

"my opinion- partly denial, partly numerical handicaps in the press."

Thanks.

Now, does anyone know what became of the anthrax ship that was quarantined off the coast of Canada. The one where the first mate died in (I think) Brazil?

[Nov3]

A study released in Hong Kong on Tuesday by Professor Tai Fai Fok of the Department of Paediatrics of Hong Kong University concurs. They found that among children who tested positive, teenagers exhibited more symptoms than young children. The younger the patient, the less infectious he was found to be.

I still say if I got this disease I would have my wife hunt for a doctor that would give me GH until I reached the levels of a 3 year old!

[neither-nor]

aristeides

Thanks for the bump.

Dog gone; Nov 3; Per Loin-
FYI To anyone interested in discovering how the system works, good or bad parts, in India, this is the story to read

[aristeides]

Pinging more people on this Indian article, which strikes me as important.

[Prince Charles]

The vessel left Thailand on April 28, and 10 of its 24 crews -- all reported to be of Indian origin -- were ill with fever, coughs and bodyaches, which are among the flu-like symptoms of the Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome.

So much for the internet rumor that indians were immune to SARS.

[Prince Charles]

As Miss Emily Litella would say, "Never mind."

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Being in NY and as close to the Canadian border maybe we should be worrying up here. They've got it worse than I realized.

[_Jim]

my opinion- partly denial, partly numerical handicaps in the press

... but MOSTLY due to lack of hard science on this disease and the controlled studies that could determine if under-reporting on the spread of this disease would, in actuality, water down those mortality stats ...

[TheLion]

"Now, does anyone know what became of the anthrax ship that was quarantined off the coast of Canada. The one where the first mate died in (I think) Brazil?"

They apparently ruled out Anthrax as the cause of death. There was another recent and mysterious death of a Bulgarian sailor off Brazil....article here:

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/030501/w050186.html

[blam]

"Initial tests showed Ibrahim had died of anthrax, but authorities later ruled that out and said more tests were needed to identify the cause of death. "

Thanks.