Posted on 05/21/2003 10:34:19 AM PDT by ConservativeVoice
Tov B. Brog © 2003
It's Our Existence, Stupid By Tov B. Brog |
May 21st 2003 Lets just cut to the chase. Forget about avoiding provocation. Stop agonizing over land-for-peace deals thatll never work. Quit thinking that the other side, whether they be Islamic fundamentalists going after the US, or Palestinians blowing up kids in Israel, is interested in any final deal that leaves us with breath in our bodies. They arent.
We need to get it through our heads that its our existence thats the problem here. We have to start taking the Bin-Ladens and the Arafats at their word. With Arafat its not the false message he plies us with in his broken, stuttering English. Its his words in Arabic, to his foaming-at-the-mouth followers, that broadcast his real intentions. In those speeches, he repeatedly refers to homicide bombers as martyrs; declares his dedication to the liberation of Al-Quds, Jerusalem to the rest of us; and makes clear his determination to follow the 1974 PLO plan for the liberation of Palestine. That particular roadmap lays out a step-by-step framework for destroying Israel, including the establishment of an interim Palestinian national authority that will serve as a springboard for the final assault. You want proof that he isnt interested in peace? Look at the deal Israels Prime Minister Barak was willing to give in 2001: a Palestinian state with shared sovereignty over Jerusalem, control of the Temple Mount, 92% of the West Bank, 100% of the Gaza strip, and a piece of Israels territory to make up the difference. Arafat didnt even counter the offer. He just walked out and started a bloody uprising. It isnt the land. It isnt Palestinian sovereignty. It isnt even Jerusalem. Its Israels existence that offends the Palestinians. If Israel were to surrender unconditionally, then, following the massacre of as many Jews as possible, thered be peace. In the meantime, for the Arabs, every compromise the US might come up with is only a stepping-stone to Israels demise. When all this happened, the Israeli left, having become a one-issue movement, all but collapsed. I know. I was there. They were like wide-eyed guppies that had just had acid dumped into their aquarium. So deluded were they that many still insisted on pursuing the discredited Oslo accord, explaining their lunacy by saying at least we have a plan. Thats like having your wife shoot your dog, burn down the house, clear out the bank account and run off with your best friend while you insist shell come back because its the only alternative you can think of. Have fun waiting. How about the possibility that shes not coming back, ever again, even in a thousand years? The Palestinians arent following any Roadmap to peace unless theyre dragged along kicking and screaming, with a gun to their head. So, cut to the global war on terror. The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is symbolic of the more general one between the West and radical Islam. Its not support for Israel. Its not the presence of US troops in Saudi Arabia. Its not even our economic and military superiority that resides at the core of their enmity towards us. Its our very existence that threatens them. And the friction between us cant be avoided. In a global economy, we have to interact with each other. We rely on them to meet our energy needs and they rely on us to provide the goods and services that keep their countries running. But they cant handle the collateral effects. The freedom that we take for granted is an obscenity to fundamentalist Islam, and its a threat to their authority. Over 70% of Iranians want closer ties to the US, according to recent polls. Theyre supreme leader, Ayatollah Khameni, has expressly forbidden such a move. From the time of Mohammed, he and his ilk have always applied a simple formula to their interaction with others: submit or die. There is no compromise. So, again, its our existence, stupid. Our tolerance, our desire for compromise and coexistence, is just another sign of our impending collapse, a colossal weakness to be exploited. There are only two ways to end our war on terrorism. We can destroy the terrorists, eliminate their sponsors and intimidate their sympathizers into inaction, or; we can submit to their authority and convert, or accept second-class citizenship, under an Islamic regime. You only need to look at their public pronouncements and published writings to see the truth. They make no effort to hide their true intentions. When Mein Kampf was published in 1925, Hitler spelled out his plans in detail. The world ignored him and paid an awful price. Lets hope our generation avoids the same mistake. Open your eyes and open your ears. This is a fight to the death. The sooner we accept that, the better off well be. Just as the Israeli Labor Party nearly led their country to disaster, our own appeasers, including the Arabists in our State Department, will try to push us down the path of compromise. Thats a deal with the Devil that we dare not make. For the sake of our country, our civilization and future generations, we cant allow that to happen. Its us, or them. |
What's this?
A CONSERVATIVE USING RIDICULE EFFECTIVELY?
It isn't possible, it just isn't possible...
The moronic Left either does not acknowledge the existence of Evil, or is itself Evil!
Somewhere, today, a Radical Muslim Terrorist is plotting to kill you, your friends, and your family.
Ask yourself this -
Do you want Rummy, or Powell, to take care of this?
NEVER NEGOTIATE WITH EVIL - KILL IT!
I advocate total war against the whole Islamic world - with a no-holds-barred, all-out scorched-earth policy. If they want a war, I believe we should show them War. Nuclear fire, plague, and the wholesale annihilation of the mullah class is what they should reap, broadcast live in living color for all the world to see.
It may sound like the ravings of a madman now. But what about when there is a poisonous mushroom rising over the dead heart of a US city? If on that day the American people and our government do not see the grim reality of the situation, then we deserve everything we get.
Let the march of conquest begin!
(Inflammatory polemic spewed by a trained stunt-writer on a closed course. Do not try this at home. May cause choking if swallowed. Void if prohibited. May differ in Alaska and Hawaii...)
It does to me. It sounds every bit as extreme as the people we're fighting.
I wasn't responding for his benefit; he's obviously beyond help. I was responding for the benefit of anyone who might be on the fence.
Israel, enough is enough!
Actually, that's only half of the curse...
It's actually, "May you live in interesting times, and be noticed by important people."
The logic behind this stems from the ancient Chinese culture (pre-Communist crazies), where a happy life was one that was relatively uneventful, and you were never noticed by the royalty or their minions...
However, I believe that curse is still valid- the terrorists have finally gained the full focus and concentration of an entire nation.... A nation which was (to quote Admiral Yamamoto) a sleeping giant.
No longer. Active terrorists are now recognized by the free world, for what they are... vermin, to be eradicated.
I hope they're prepared for being noticed....
Those in favor of destroying US? 1,000,000,000 Muslims.
Get the picture, Kemo Sabe?
Just from this single thread:
"Islam is a religion of DEATH."
--Capitalist Eric
"Its us, or them. Lock and load!"
--appalachian_dweller
"We can fight them now, when we are strong and they are weak"
--Slings and Arrows
"Israel needs to go in and DESTROY the PLO and ARRAFAT ... if there is an attack, ... POUND it in to the heads of the Palestinians"
--Aric2000
"it's war they are going to get ... real war ... not just a tank shell or a targeted terrorist leader ... real war ... the real thing ..."
--Bobby777
"Terrorists will not be dealt with, they will be destroyed, not brought to justice, not imprisoned, not converted, KILLED, destroyed, utterly, totally and completely."
--Aric2000
"ISLAM IS THE ENEMY ... We must defeat every aspect of Islam on this planet. There IS no compromise."
--ClearBlueSky
"I advocate total war against the whole Islamic world - with a no-holds-barred, all-out scorched-earth policy. If they want a war, I believe we should show them War. Nuclear fire, plague, and the wholesale annihilation of the mullah class is what they should reap, broadcast live in living color for all the world to see."
--FierceDraka
" carpet bomb, bulldoze, and pave"
--A_perfect_lady
"I can handle that plan (carpet bomb, bulldoze, and pave)"
--Aric2000
Terrorists will not be dealt with, they will be destroyed, not brought to justice, not imprisoned, not converted, KILLED, destroyed, utterly, totally and completely.
If you are a terrorist, your life is forfiet.
I must agree completely with you. (From your words to G-ds ears) ((And I like grandpa Dave too))
Thanks for invoking Godwin's Law. Now go away. You are not wanted here.
You're welcome. Let's hope it works on this hate-spewing thread.
Freepers on this thread "disgust" you but the mass murderers who carry out homicide bombings to achieve the annihilation of Israel and the extermination of all the Jews from "Palestine" are your heroes. Do I detect a little double standard here?
YAK, YAK, DON'T RUN, WE ARE YOUR FRIENDS!
The article is a thinly guised call for one. Only at the end does it mention the "terrorists". The article describes how the PLO, Islam, the Palestinians, the Arabs, Arafat, Hitler, the Israeli Labor Party, and the Arabs in the U.S. State Department all want the Israeli people to die. And it's "us or them".
Take that how you will, and I've documented how some of the posters on this thread take it, I want no part of genocide.
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