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missus clinton: BILL CLINTON ISN'T THE ONLY RAPIST I GOT OFF
Living History | 6.30.03 | Mia T

Posted on 06/30/2003 8:25:14 PM PDT by Mia T

missus clinton: BILL CLINTON ISN'T THE ONLY RAPIST I GOT OFF
(Tell It Early, . . . Tell It Yourself )

 

by Mia T, 6.30.03

 

Diane [Blair] and I regularly met for lunch in the Student Union. We always chose a table by the big windows that looked out toward the Ozark Hills and share [sic] stories and gossip. She and I also spent long hours with Ann at the Henrys' backyard pool. They loved hearing about the cases I handled at the Legal Aid clinic, and I often sought their opinions about some of the attitudes I encountered. One day, the Washington County prosecuting attorney, Mahlon Gibson, called to tell me an indigent prisoner accused of raping a twelve-year-old girl wanted a woman lawyer. Gibson had recommended that the criminal court judge, Maupin Cummings, appoint me. I told Mahlon I really didn't feel comfortable taking on such a client, but Mahlon gently reminded me that I couldn't very well refuse the judge's request. When I visited the alleged rapist in the county jail, I learned that he was an uneducated "chicken catcher." His job was to collect chickens from the large warehouse farms for one of the local processing plants. He denied the charges against him and insisted that the girl, a distant relative, had made up her story. I conducted a thorough investigation and obtained expert testimony from an eminent scientist from New York, who cast doubt on the evidentiary value of the blood and semen the prosecutor claimed proved the defendant's guilt in the rape. Because of that testimony, I negotiated with the prosecutor for the defendant to plead guilty to sexual abuse. When I appeared with my client before Judge Cummings to present the plea, he asked me to leave the courtroom while he conducted the necessary examination to determine the factual basis for the plea. I said, "Judge, I can't leave. I'm his lawyer."

"Well," said the judge, "I can't talk about these things in front of a lady."

"Judge," I reassured him, "don't think of me as anything but a lawyer."

The judge walked the defendant through his plea and then sentenced him. It was shortly after this experience that Ann Henry and I discussed setting up Arkansas's first rape hot line.

hillary clinton, Living History, p. 72-73
published by the clintons' personal agitprop-and-money-laundering machine,
Simon & Schuster
(special thanks to jla for wading through the vacuity, pitiful self-adoration and muck to get this cite)

The rape took place while Bill was running for governor. Hillary came bursting into the room to talk to two people, one of whom I personally know. She said "You won't believe what this &^%$#@#$%^ did now. He tried to rape some b*tch."

It was the job of these two to squelch the story.

doug from upland to Shaun Hannity, WABC, 10/16/00

Cillary clinton is following Lanny Davis' counsel. She's getting all the (non-actionable) stuff out early and, if you discount the literary demimonde of ghost writers, hacks, and publicists, she's getting it out herself.

It's worth noting that a "congenital liar" like missus clinton, (Bill Safire's right-on early diagnosis), will experience absolutely no cognitive dissonance following Lanny Davis' slick advice: "Truth to Tell" does not mean "Tell theTruth."

Blue Gap Dress Redux

Consistent with Davis' advice, clinton tells us that she bought an expert witness to help her get the rapist off; he was "an eminent" (but strangely never identified) "scientist from New York," whose charge it was to muddle the puddle of semen and blood to such an extent that the rapist, who "didn't do it" could eventually plead to the lesser crime of sexual abuse.

It is also worth noting that the missus is sticking closely to the clinton playbook: No, the clintons are not the co-rapists that they manifestly are; rather, they are a "minister to 100s of troubled young girls" and a contemplator of "setting up Arkansas's first rape hot line." NB: no mention of its actual implementation.

In short, the clintons didn't rape all those women. The clintons rescued them.

 

AN OPEN LETTER TO HILLARY CLINTON BY JUANITA BROADDRICK

 

Juanita Broaddrick wipes a tear from her eye during her January 1999 interview on "Dateline NBC," in which she discusses her claim of a 1978 sexual assault by Bill Clinton. -- AP

      

'DO YOU REMEMBER?'
SUNDAY OCT 15, 2000


As I watched Rick Lazio's interview on Fox News this morning, I felt compelled to write this open letter to you, Mrs. Clinton. Brit Hume asked Mr. Lazio's views regarding you as a person and how he perceived you as a candidate. Rick Lazio did not answer the question, but I know that I can. You know it, too.
I have no doubt that you are the same conniving, self-serving person you were twenty-two years ago when I had the misfortune to meet you. When I see you on television, campaigning for the New York senate race, I can see the same hypocrisy in your face that you displayed to me one evening in 1978. You have not changed.

I remember it as though it was yesterday. I only wish that it were yesterday and maybe there would still be time to do something about what your husband, Bill Clinton, did to me. There was a political rally for Mr. Clinton's bid for governor of Arkansas. I had obligated myself to be at this rally prior to my being assaulted by your husband in April, 1978. I had made up my mind to make an appearance and then leave as soon as the two of you arrived. This was a big mistake, but I was still in a state of shock and denial. You had questioned the gentleman who drove you and Mr. Clinton from the airport. You asked him about me and if I would be at the gathering. Do you remember? You told the driver, "Bill has talked so much about Juanita", and that you were so anxious to meet me. Well, you wasted no time. As soon as you entered the room, you came directly to me and grabbed my hand. Do you remember how you thanked me, saying "we want to thank you for everything that you do for Bill". At that point, I was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you kept a tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your statement, but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen many times on television in the last eight years. You said, "Everything you do for Bill". You then released your grip and I said nothing and left the gathering.

What did you mean, Hillary? Were you referring to my keeping quiet about the assault I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two weeks before? Were you warning me to continue to keep quiet? We both know the answer to that question. Yes, I can answer Brit Hume's question. You are the same Hillary that you were twenty years ago. You are cold, calculating and self-serving. You cannot tolerate the thought that you will soon be without the power you have wielded for the last eight years. Your effort to stay in power will be at the expense of the state of New York. I only hope the voters of New York will wake up in time and realize that Hillary Clinton is not an honorable or an honest person.

I will end by asking if you believe the statements I made on NBC Dateline when Lisa Myers asked if I had been assaulted and raped by your husband? Or perhaps, you are like Vice-President Gore and did not see the interview.

     Juanita Broaddrick
     Arkansas

 

TRANSCRIPT OF JUANITA BROADDRICK INTERVIEW WITH DATELINE (NBC)

 

 

"Who is Juanita Broaddrick? I've never heard of her!" cried Betty Friedan, the founder of modern feminism. Friedan's outburst came at last Friday's conference, entitled "The Legacy and Future of Hillary Rodham Clinton." Held at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. D.C., the event offered a chilling microcosm of an angry, divided America.

For nearly an hour, a five-woman panel had been debating whether Hillary qualified as a "feminist heroine." I thought Broaddrick's claim of having been raped by Hillary's husband had some bearing on this point, so I broached the subject during the question-and-answer period. Friedan's dyspeptic denial followed.

Was Friedan telling the truth? Maybe. And maybe all those millions of Germans who professed ignorance of the death camps were telling the truth too. The problem is, having admitted her ignorance, Friedan showed no interest in exploring the matter further. And that was the problem with the Germans too.

Totalitarian impulses flourished at the conference. Taking a page from Soviet psychiatry, some Clintonites suggested that Hillary hating might be a mental illness. . .

Richard Poe, The Hillary Conspiracy

 

"Boss, we have a rapist in the White House."

 

Bill Clinton may not be the worst president America has had, but surely he is the worst person to be president. There is reason to believe that he is a rapist ("You better get some ice on that," Juanita Broaddrick says he told her concerning her bit lip), and that he bombed a country to distract attention from legal difficulties arising from his glandular life, and that. ... Furthermore, the bargain that he and his wife call a marriage refutes the axiom that opposites attract. Rather, she, as much as he, perhaps even more so, incarnates Clintonism

---GEORGE WILL, Sleaze, the sequel

The rape took place while Bill was running for governor. Hillary came bursting into the room to talk to two people, one of whom I personally know. She said "You won't believe what this &^%$#@#$%^ did now. He tried to rape some b*tch."

It was the job of these two to squelch the story.

doug from upland to Shaun Hannity, WABC, 10/16/00

You had questioned the gentleman who drove you and Mr. Clinton from the airport. You asked him about me and if I would be at the gathering. Do you remember? You told the driver, "Bill has talked so much about Juanita", and that you were so anxious to meet me. Well, you wasted no time. As soon as you entered the room, you came directly to me and grabbed my hand. Do you remember how you thanked me, saying "we want to thank you for everything that you do for Bill". At that point, I was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you kept a tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your statement, but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen many times on television in the last eight years. You said, "Everything you do for Bill". You then released your grip and I said nothing and left the gathering.

What did you mean, Hillary? Were you referring to my keeping quiet about the assault I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two weeks before? Were you warning me to continue to keep quiet? We both know the answer to that question.

 

JUANITA BROADDRICK, AN OPEN LETTER TO HILLARY CLINTON

"I believed that he had done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 years ago. And it was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event." Asked point blank if the president is a rapist, Shays said, "I would like not to say that it way. But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick."

Shays Shocker: Clinton Raped Broaddrick Twice

It's no longer acceptable to say that the abuse and mistreatment of women is cultural. It should be called what it is: criminal."

-- Hillary Rodham Clinton, addressing the UN, 3.4.99  

As we've learned from the Juanita Broaddrick story (non-story, I should say) and countless others, the Clintons will do their best Muhammad Ali impression and play rope-a-dope one more time. Like they said - they've got to "get back to the business of the American people." You know - degrading the military, censoring the Internet, and bombing other countries. There's no time to deal with rape allegations or small details like a contempt charge.

---No Person is Above the Law

The clinton Rapes: Credit where credit is due...

Even hillary hagiographer, Gail Sheehy, concedes that hillary clinton deserves no less than half of the credit for the clinton rapes:

She made the money, she laid out the political strategy. She fought his political enemies for him. She gave him a beautiful child. She was an excellent mother. What more could you want in a political wife? So these other little escapades on the side were just, you know, white noise.

Historically, hillary clinton has always been a co-equal partner in clintoncrime.

Specifically, hillary clinton raped, too. For two decades, for power, for all intents and purposes, hillary clinton both provided and pinned her husband's prey as he raped them, again and again.

In a novel twist of logic and reality during the First Rapist's impeachment trial, the co-rapist portrayed the endless string of clinton rapes as significant clinton public policy, euphemistically dubbing chronic clinton predation "ministering to troubled young girls."

Mia T, First Rapist's Rose-Garden Escape: The Full Story

Arkansas nursing home operator Juanita Broaddrick told impeachment investigators she was raped not once but twice by Bill Clinton during a brutal attack in a Little Rock hotel room 22 years ago, Connecticut Congressman Christopher Shays revealed Wednesday...

 

Shays Reveals Details of Clinton's 'Horrific' Broaddrick Rape

 

LINK

 

by Mia T

 

 

It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope.
We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth,
and listen to the song of that siren
till she transforms us into beasts.
Is this the part of wise men,
engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty?
Are we disposed to be the number of those
who, having eyes, see not,
and having ears, hear not,
the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?
For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost,
I am willing to know the whole truth;
to know the worst, and to provide for it.
Patrick Henry


In a dark time, the eye begins to see.
Theodore Roethke

 

 

THE BOTTOM LINE:

 



My original piece on clinton,
"
The Placebo President: How a Rapist can be a Policy Feminist,"
written years ago.
9/11 was the sorry, inexorable endpoint....

 

 

The Real Danger of a Fake President:
Post-9/11 Reconsideration of The Placebo President

by Mia T, 1.06.02  

 

 

 In May, 1996, American diplomats were informed in a Sudanese government fax that Bin Laden was about to be expelled -- giving Washington another chance to seize him. The decision not to do so went to the very top of the White House, according to former administration sources.

They say that the clear focus of American policy was to discourage the state sponsorship of terrorism. So persuading Khartoum to expel Bin Laden was in itself counted as a clear victory. The administration was "delighted"
.

Bin Laden took off from Khartoum on May 18 in a chartered C-130 plane with 150 of his followers, including his wives. He was bound for Jalalabad in eastern Afghanistan. On the way the plane refuelled in the Gulf state of Qatar, which has friendly relations with Washington, but he was allowed to proceed unhindered.

Barely a month later, on June 25, a 5,000lb truck bomb ripped apart the front of Khobar Towers, a US military housing complex in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. The explosion killed 19 American servicemen. Bin Laden was immediately suspected...

US missed three chances to seize Bin Laden

Just look around this chamber. We have members from virtually every racial, ethnic, and religious background. And America is stronger for it. But as we have seen, these differences all too often spark hatred and division, even here at home. . . This is not the American way. We must draw the line. Without delay, we must pass the Hate Crimes Prevention Act and the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. And we should reauthorize the Violence Against Women Act.

bill clinton, State of Union Speech, January 27, 2000

 

"I'm sorry, but the president is one of the crudest men I have ever encountered in government service," says one female agent. "He has no respect for women."

Among the comments clinton made in presence of Secret Service agents:

. Frequent speculation on the oral sex skills of women

the president saw or met in receiving lines;

. References to the size of a woman's breasts, legs or figure;

. Sexual jokes.

After the Monica Lewinsky story broke, however, clinton toned down his rhetoric and behavior in front of his Secret Service agents, but those who guarded the president say enough of them saw and heard things which could be damaging to clinton.

"It depends on who Ken Starr calls," says one ex-agent. "The people who are on the job today are not necessarily the ones who know the most."

Turnover In clinton's Secret Service Detail 'Highest That Anyone Can Remember'

 

In the months that follow, reporters drop the issue. Feminists say little or nothing. Rape crisis center workers acknowledge that Broaddrick's case, including her reluctance to come forward, is typical of victims of sexual assault. But they decline to speak against clinton. Some cite the federal funding they receive as a result of the Violence Against Women Act, which was signed into law by clinton.

Why does the press continue to ignore the Juanita Broaddrick story?

Richard Gere stunned fellow liberals Monday by suggesting that President Bush is doing a better job of fighting AIDS than President Bill Clinton did.

Introduced by Sharon Stone at a fund-raiser at Cipriani 42nd Street for the American Foundation for AIDS Research, the "Chicago" star hailed Bush for his State of the Union proposal to contribute $15 billion toward the AIDS battle in Africa and the Caribbean. Gere then addressed the track record of Bush's predecessor in the White House.

"I'm sorry, Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, but your husband did nothing about AIDS for eight years," Gere said.

GERE TAKES ON BILL, NY Daily News | 2/5/03

 

 

 

The Placebo President:

How a Rapist can be a Policy Feminist

 

placebo effect n.

A beneficial effect in a patient following a particular treatment
that arises from the patient's expectations concerning the treatment
rather than from the treatment itself.

 

Every woman adores a Fascist,
The boot in the face, the brute
Brute heart of a brute like you.

----Sylvia Plath

 

The placebo effect immediately came to mind

as I listened to Shelby Steele,

a research fellow at the Hoover Institution,

debunk the following pernicious spin intended to save clinton.

To wit:

A proven felon and utter reprobate can remain president;

clinton can be a failed human being but a good president.

 

The error in these statements arises, says Steele,

from the belief that

virtuousness is separate from personal responsibility

so that one's virtuousness as an individual is determined by

one's political positions on issues rather than on

whether or not in one's personal life there is a

consistency and a responsibility.

 

Steele's contention is that this compartmentalization,

rather than being the amazing advantage

the clintons would have us believe,

in fact, spills toxicity into, corrupts, the culture.

 

If mere identification with good policies is what makes one virtuous

then those policies become, what Steele calls, iconographic,

that is to say they just represent virtuousness.

They don't necessarily do virtuous things.

 

If clinton's semantic parsing strips meaning from our words,

clinton's iconographic policies strip meaning from our society,

systematically deconstructing our society as a democracy. . .

 

I would take Shelby Steele's thesis one step further.

I maintain that iconographic policy functions like a placebo,

producing a real, physiological and social effects.

 

The placebo effect is, after all, the brain's triumph over reality.

Expectation alone can produce powerful physiological results.

The placebo effect was, at one time, an evolutionary advantage:

act now, think later

 

bill clinton is the paradigmatic Placebo President.

Placebo is Latin for "I shall please."

And please he does

doling out sham treatments, iconographs, with abandon.

To please, to placate, to numb, to deflect.

Ultimately to showcase his imagined virtue.

Or to confute his genuine vice.

 

clinton will dispense sugar pills (or bombs)

at the drop of a high-heeled shoe...

or at the hint of high treason...

 

clinton's charlatanry mimics that of primitive medicine.

Through the 1940s, doctors had little effective medicine to offer

so they deliberately attempted to induce the placebo response.

 

The efficaciousness of today's medicines

does not diminish the power of the placebo.

A recent review of placebo-controlled studies

found that placebos and genuine treatments

are often equally effective.

If you expect to get better, you will.

 

Which brings me back to the original question:

Can clinton be a failed human being but a good president?

 

Clearly he cannot.

These two propositions are mutually exclusive.

clinton's fundamental failure is a complete lack of integrity.

He has violated his covenant with the American people.

 

Because clinton has destroyed his moral authority as a leader,

he can no longer function even as a quack;

the placebo effect is gone.

And so the Placebo President must now go, too.

 

 

 

 

September 11 changed a lot of things for me, Bill [O'Reilly]. I will say this, before September 11, I was definitely mildly myopic in terms of my political agenda. If you were Democrat you were probably right, and if you were a Republican you were probably wrong. Everything changed for me that day...

My entire worldview changed. If you would have told me September 9 that I would have been at the world series game filming George Bush throwing out the first pitch with my 6-year-old son crying, I never would have believed you, but I was. Because my whole worldview changed.

ROSIE O'DONNELL

 

 

 

 

Reciprocal Intern-Exploitation-Purgation Attempt at JFK Library
"I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine...."

 

by Mia T, 5.18.03

 

Biography lends to death a new terror.

Oscar Wilde

 

 

Hypocrisy abounds in this Age of Clinton, a Postmodern Oz rife with constitutional deconstruction and semantic subversion, a virtual surreality polymarked by presidential alleles peccantly misplaced or, in the case of Jefferson posthumously misappropriated...

Mia T, THE OTHER NIXON

 

 

Yesterday, Daniel Patrick Moynihan died. Today, the clintons are arrogating his soul. Hardly surprising. In 1999, the clintons were not at all shy about seizing his still-warm senate seat.

One has merely to recall the Thomas Jefferson double-helix hoax to understand that posthumous misappropriation is, for the obvious reason, the clintons' preferred method of legacy inflation….

Standard-Issue clintonism

If misappropriation of Jefferson's alleles hinged on a broken line of descent, misappropriation of Moynihan's endorsement depends on a broken line of dissent. Like Sally Hemmings' progeny, Moynihan's later acquiescence is of dubious lineage

Mia T, Moynihan Myths

 

 

 

In fact, Clinton was not impeached for his dalliance with Lewinsky, but because he perjured himself about the relationship in testimony before a federal judge and a grand jury in an attempt to obstruct justice in the Paula Jones sexual harassment case.

Clinton to Address JFK Library in Wake of Intern Revelations

...not to mention clinton's rape of Broaddrick and other predations.

In the end, it was the incontrovertilble Ford-Building evidence of those "horrific, vicious" crimes (to quote Christopher Shays) that made the difference in the impeachment vote (although, oddly, not in that of Shays, whose reasoning apparently went something like this:

clinton is a rapist
Therefore clinton is a fit president.)

And in the end, it was the Senate's failure to consider that incontrovertilble evidence -- it was the Senate's utter failure to act -- that kept a pair of self-serving rapists in power , which, in turn, allowed 9/11 to proceed on course....

 

To be fair, it was not the Lieberman speech but rather a New York Times apologia that institutionalized this shameless scheme to protect a thoroughly corrupt and repugnant--and--as everyone except The New York Times now acknowledges-- dangerous -- Democrat regime.

The Lieberman Paradigm made its debut in The Times' utterly loony 1996 endorsement of clinton. The Times actually argued -- NOTE: this is NOT satire on my part (nor is it satire, as far as I can discern, on the part of The Times) -- that although bill clinton is a "corrupt," "dysfunctional personality [with} delusions" -- The Times' own words -- we need not -- we must not -- remove bill clinton; we need only remove.the character lobe of bill clinton's brain.

THE SHAYS SYNDROME

Not an aberration, the Shays Syndrome was quickly adopted by the entire Senate as its impeachment show trial deus ex machina of choice.

Shays, you may recall, examined the evidence in the Ford Building, concluded that clinton did, indeed, rape Broaddrick -- "VICIOUSLY!" AND "TWICE!" he declared at the time-- and was planning to vote to impeach; he changed his mind, however, after a tete a tete with the rapist.

Any cognitive dissonance Shays may have experienced rendering that verdict was no doubt assuaged by the political plum clinton had given Mrs. (Betsi) Shays...

Each of the 50 senators, on the other hand, cured the cognitive dissonance problem pre-emptively by making certain not to examine the damning Ford Building evidence in the first place.

the logic of pathologic self-interest

I am not aware of any JFK rapes...

On the other hand, it is perfectly understandable that his brother, the one who murdered to cover up a dalliance, would imagine that the imprimatur of a rapist and exploiter of White House interns would somehow mitigate -- dilute, if you will pardon the pun -- JFK's transgression... and retroactively, no less.

I cannot imagine that Teddy is trying to spin the converse. I mean, would he really sacrifice his dead brother on the altar of clinton?

 

YOO-HOO Sid…

It won't s-p-i-n 

 

 

 

 

All the fuss over the spread-eagle pose and the tie pointing to nothing much.

I think the great untold story of that photo is the scary fisheye distortion of the rapist's hands (which only underscores the smallness of the rest of him)...

It is as though the photographer was saying, "You small -----. I believe Juanita."

GORE ON CLINTON RAPES-THE VIDEO

 

YOO-HOO missus clinton: THE CLINTON RAPES ARE

"UNBECOMING"

  

 

Aside: Isn't it interesting how the clintons, how this "brilliant man" and this "smart" woman (as Estrich is wont to describe them these days) -- "the smartest woman in the world" in the clinton version always careful not to preclude the possibility of smarter men) -- isn't it interesting how these two veritable geniuses never fail to fall for the artiste's inside joke? 

 

 

bushwhacked by tailhook: the real reason



Democratic Party's Problem Transcends Its Anti-War Contingent
CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme FICTIONAL TRILOGY
Q ERTY8PING

 


The REAL "Living History" -- clintoplasmodial slime

 

Why bill "it was the TERRORISM, stupid" clinton would have been an utter failure even if he weren't a corrupt, cowardly, vacuous, self-serving, balkanizing, opportunistic RapistThug
And why the missus deserves no less than half the credit

Poison Pen Proves Autotoxic:
CLINTON-WAS-AN-UTTER-FAILURE Containment Team Scheme Fails Yet Again

The Clinton Wars: Stockholm Syndrome Revs Spinning Sid

Personal Agitprop-and-Money-Laundering Machine, Cozy-clintonoid-Interviews-of-the-Colmes-Kind-Scheme
Bury
REAL "Living History"

 missus clinton's REAL virtual office update

Transcript of Juanita Broaddrick's Interview on Dateline NBC

 

MSNBC
24 Feb 1999

 

 

 

       LAST WEEK, as NBC News continued its investigation, Jane Doe Number 5 went public with her extraordinary allegation --

 

that she was sexually assaulted by Bill Clinton 21 years ago. To some this is an old and unprovable accusation that should never have been circulated to begin with. To others it's a story that must be told. Is she to be believed? Or is Jane Doe Number 5 the latest weapon in a relentless political war against Bill Clinton?
       Juanita Broaddrick:
"It's important to me to tell what happened. I don't know how people are going to take this. I don't know what they're going to think after all these years and months why I've come forward."
       Jane Doe Number 5 is 56-year-old Juanita Broaddrick, a successful businesswoman who has been the subject of intense political and media speculation. Rumors about Broaddrick's story have been floating around Arkansas and Washington for years, known to both Clinton haters and supporters.
       Broaddrick was pulled into the Paula Jones case, she met with investigators for the House Judiciary Committee and was interviewed by Ken Starr's investigators. And though what she told Starr remains sealed it was seen by 40 members of Congress before the impeachment vote in the House. Later House Republican Whip Tom Delay publicly urged senators to find out what Jane Doe Number 5 had to say before deciding the fate of the president.
       As the whispers about her grew, Broaddrick found herself hounded by the media --

 

and she says she was the subject of gossip and half truths on the Internet and in the tabloids.
       Juanita Broaddrick: "All these stories are floating around. Different stories of what really happened, of what people think happened and I was tired of everybody putting their own spin on it."
       The Broaddrick story became public last week, and since then her story has appeared in print, on radio and TV.        But much of what you may have read or heard is incomplete. While NBC News was investigating this story and seeking comment from the White House, our work became the subject of much speculation. Tonight, you'll see what we were able to learn and you'll hear from Juanita Broaddrick herself --

 

a woman who remained silent for two decades and who admits she has lied under oath about this story in the past but now says she wants to tell the truth.
       Juanita Broaddrick's story begins in 1978 --

 

she was a registered nurse who had started her own nursing home in Van Buren, Arkansas.
       Bill Clinton was the state attorney general who was running for governor:
       Juanita Broaddrick: "I thought he was just something that was gonna be really good for Arkansas. Thought he was a very charismatic man, that had bright ideas for our state… I just really liked him."
       Broaddrick, whose married name at the time was Juanita Hickey, says she was so impressed with Clinton she volunteered to hand out bumper stickers and signs --

 

her first and only political campaign. Broaddrick says she met Clinton for the first time when he made a campaign stop at her nursing home in the spring of 1978.
       Juanita Broaddrick: "While he was there visiting, he said 'If you're ever in the, ah you know, Little Rock area, please drop by our campaign office,' and he said 'be sure to call me when you come in and call down to the campaign office.'"
       Broaddrick says not long after that conversation she did go to Little Rock for a nursing home meeting held at the Camelot Hotel --

 

now the Doubletree. She says she checked into the hotel and the next morning called Clinton campaign headquarters. She says she was told Clinton was at his apartment and to call him there.
       Juanita Broaddrick: "I did call and ask him if he was gonna be at the headquarters that day and he said no he didn't plan to be there. He says, Clinton said, 'Why don't I just meet you for coffee in the Camelot coffee shop?'"
       But Broaddrick says Clinton called later --

 

she thinks it was around 9 in the morning --

 

and asked if they could meet in her hotel room because there were reporters in the coffee shop.

       Lisa Myers: "Did you think his interest in you at the time was personal or professional?"
       Juanita Broaddrick: "I thought it was professional, completely."
       Myers: "So you thought this was going to be a business meeting?"
       Broaddrick: "Yes I did, I really did."
       Myers: "Did you have qualms at all about him coming to the room?"
       Broaddrick: "I was a little bit uneasy. But, I felt, ah, a real friendship toward this man and I didn't really feel any, um any danger in him coming to my room. I sort of ushered us over to the coffee --

 

I had coffee sitting on a little table over there by the window and it was a real pretty window view that looked down at the river. And he came around me and sort of put his arm over my shoulder to point to this little building and he said he was real interested if he became governor to restore that little building and then all of a sudden, he turned me around and started kissing me. And that was a real shock."
       Myers: "What did you do?"
       Broaddrick: "I first pushed him away and just told him 'No, please don't do that," and I forget, it's been 21 years, Lisa, and I forget exactly what he was saying. It seems like he was making statements that would relate to 'Did you not know why I was coming up here?' and I told him at the time, I said, 'I'm married, and I have other things going on in my life, and this is something that I'm not interested in.'"
       Myers: "Had you, that morning, or any other time, given him any reason to believe you might be receptive?"
       Broaddrick: "No. None. None whatsoever."
       Myers: "Then what happens?"
       Broaddrick: "Then he tries to kiss me again. And the second time he tries to kiss me he starts biting my lip (she cries). Just a minute... He starts to, um, bite on my top lip and I tried to pull away from him. (crying) And then he forces me down on the bed. And I just was very frightened, and I tried to get away from him and I told him 'No,' that I didn't want this to happen (crying) but he wouldn't listen to me."
       Myers: "Did you resist, did you tell him to stop?"
       Broaddrick: "Yes, I told him 'Please don't.' He was such a different person at that moment, he was just a vicious awful person."
       Myers: "You said there was a point at which you stopped resisting?"
       Broaddrick: "Yeah."
       Myers: "Why?"
       Broaddrick: "It was a real panicky, panicky situation. I was even to the point where I was getting very noisy, you know, yelling to 'Please stop.' And that's when he pressed down on my right shoulder and he would bite my lip."
       Broaddrick also says the waist of her skirt and her pantyhose were torn.
       Juanita Broaddrick: "When everything was over with, he got up and straightened himself, and I was crying at the moment and he walks to the door, and calmly puts on his sunglasses. And before he goes out the door he says 'You better get some ice on that.' And he turned and went out the door."
       Myers: "On your lip?"
       Broaddrick: "Yeah."
       Broaddrick estimates Clinton was in her room less than 30 minutes.
       Myers: "Is there any way at all that Bill Clinton could have thought that this was consensual?"
       Broaddrick: "No. Not with what I told him, and with how I tried to push him away. It was not consensual."
       Myers: "You're saying that Bill Clinton sexually assaulted you, that he raped you."
       Broaddrick: "Yes."
       Myers: "And there is no doubt in your mind that that's what happened?"
       Broaddrick: "No doubt whatsoever."
       While the president and his lawyer declined to be interviewed on camera, through his lawyer the president did issue a statement saying any allegation he assaulted Broaddrick is "absolutely false" and when asked about it Wednesday the president said he had nothing to add to that statement.
       It's important to note --

 

and Broaddrick concedes --

 

that aside from her, there are no witnesses and as far as we know, no one saw Clinton enter or leave Broaddrick's room, or even the hotel. She took no photos, kept no evidence and the hotel has no records to confirm that she stayed there. However, Broaddrick does have a friend who backs up her story.
       Norma Kelsey did not want to be interviewed on camera. However she told us she did accompany Broaddrick on that business trip to Little Rock --

 

they even shared a hotel room. Norma says when she left that morning Broaddrick told her she was planning to see Clinton. But Norma says when she called around lunchtime, Broaddrick was upset and crying so she returned to the room.
       Juanita Broaddrick: "Well, I was very emotional within an hour or so after it happened and then by the time Norma got back my whole top lip was turned out, was very swollen and very ugly looking."
       Norma also says that Broaddrick's lip and mouth were badly swollen, that her pantyhose had been ripped off and she says Broaddrick told her she had been sexually assaulted by Clinton.
       Myers: "Did you feel any internal injuries?"
       Broaddrick: "Of course. I felt, I felt, just the whole thing you can imagine of being violated. I felt, of course there was pain."
       Myers: "Did you consider going to a doctor?"
       Broaddrick: "No. Not at all. I just wanted to get home. I just, ah, I wanted it to all go away. I wanted to just walk outta there and forget that it had never happened, because I felt very responsible that I had allowed him to come to my room."
       Broaddrick says she decided to leave the hotel immediately without going to the nursing home meeting. She says after Norma helped ice her lip, the two of them left Little Rock and drove more than two hours back to Van Buren.
       Juanita Broaddrick: "We were still in shock, Lisa, over what had happened… It was like this is a horrible thing and I'm gonna wake up in a minute and this is not going to be true."
       Norma told us on the drive back, Broaddrick was very, very upset and in shock and says Broaddrick blamed herself for letting Clinton in her room. And Broaddrick says she never considered going to the police --

 

especially since Clinton was the Arkansas attorney general at the time.
       Myers: "The question everyone is going to ask is 'Juanita, why didn't you report this 21 years ago?'"
       Broaddrick: "I didn't think anyone would believe me in the world."
       If Juanita Broaddrick ever wanted to press charges against Bill Clinton, it's too late. The statute of limitations in Arkansas is six years.
       If something did happen in that hotel room, who else knew about it? NBC News spent four weeks trying to confirm as many details as possible.
       Lisa Myers: "Did you tell your husband when you got home?"
       Juanita Broaddrick: "No, my husband never knew."
       Juanita Broaddrick says that at the time of the alleged sexual assault her marriage was on the rocks. She says she never told her husband, Gary Hickey, about the alleged incident and told him the swollen lip was the result of an accident. Hickey tells NBC News he doesn't recall either the injury or her explanation. At the time, she was having an affair with the man who would become her second husband --

 

David Broaddrick --

 

to whom she's been married 18 years. She says she saw David and told him what happened soon after she returned home.
       Myers: "Did she have any visible injuries?"
       David Broaddrick: "Yes. She, uh, her top lip was black."
       Myers: "As best you can remember, what did she tell you?"
       David Broaddrick: "Uh, like I said, I don't remember the words but that she had been raped by Bill Clinton."
       Myers: "Other than her lip, did she have any injuries?"
       David Broaddrick: "Just mentally she was in bad shape."
       Juanita Broaddrick also says her affair with David made her even more reluctant to report the incident:
       Juanita Broaddrick: "I don't think I would have been real honorable back then in the 70s to have been married and having this affair. I just didn't think anyone would have believed me."
       So who else did Broaddrick talk to?
       Three of her friends tell NBC News she told them about the alleged incident at the time: Susan Lewis...
       Susan Lewis: "It was very traumatic for her."
       Louise Ma...
       Myers: "Did you urge her to report it?"
       Louise Ma: "No."
       Myers: "Why not?"
       Louise Ma: "Because women were made victims at the time. And you know what the courts were like in that time period. It was always the woman's fault."
       And Jean Darden, the sister of Norma Kelsey, the woman who says she saw Juanita at the hotel. Both admit they have a serious reason not to like Bill Clinton --

 

in 1981 as governor, Clinton commuted the life sentence of their father's killer, making him eligible for parole.
       The stories her friends tell from 20 years ago are consistent --

 

and Broaddrick herself says she recalls many details. For instance, the outfit she was wearing, the hotel room furnishings, and the time of year --

 

spring. However, there is one important thing she does not remember --

 

when the alleged incident happened: not the date, not even the month.
       Lisa Myers: "Some people would say, how can you not remember the specific date of an event as traumatic as this?"
       Juanita Broaddrick: "I really don't have an answer for that except to say I remember the approximate time of year. I probably should remember the date, although it's something I wanted to forget."
       So NBC News tried to figure out the date of the alleged assault. Broaddrick gave us access to all the business and personal records she says she could find. We also checked public records, nursing home records and convention schedules.
       And indeed there was a nursing home meeting at the Camelot Hotel in Little Rock on April 25, 1978. Further, state records show Broaddrick got credit for a nursing home seminar that was held that day, April 25.
       So was Bill Clinton even in Little Rock on April 25, 1978? Despite our repeated requests, the White House would not answer that question and declined to release any information about his schedule.
       So we checked 45 Arkansas newspapers and talked to a dozen former Clinton staffers. We found no evidence that Clinton had any public appearances on the morning in question. Articles in Arkansas newspapers suggest he was in Little Rock that day.
       And remember the little building Broaddrick says Clinton pointed to just before the alleged assault in the hotel room? We checked that too, and in fact the Pulaski County jail was visible from rooms facing the river. It has since been demolished.
       But what happened after the alleged assault? It turns out, just three weeks later Broaddrick actually attended a Clinton fundraiser with her first husband.
       Myers: "Some people would wonder why you would go to a fundraiser for someone who you say sexually assaulted you. Couldn't you have said you were sick or gotten out of it?"
       Broaddrick: "I think I was still in denial that time exactly what had happened to me. I still felt very guilty at that time that it was my fault. By letting him come to the room I had given him the wrong idea and just shut up and accept your punishment and don't ever do it again."
       Broaddrick also told us Clinton called her a half dozen times at the nursing home. She says he got through once and asked her when she was coming back to Little Rock. Her response, she says, "I'm not."
       Then in 1979, a year after the alleged assault, Broaddrick was named by Clinton to a non-paying position on a state advisory board.
       Myers: "Did you have reservations about accepting any appointment by Governor Clinton?"
       Broaddrick: "Yes, but I had more or less said to the association that I would do this before I knew it was a governor appointing job. When I agreed to do it I had no idea it was an appointment."
       Over the years, Broaddrick said she had business dealings with the governor's office but not Clinton personally. In 1984, she received a letter signed by Clinton after her nursing home was named one of the state's best facilities. At the bottom, there is a handwritten note that says, "I admire you very much." A routine political thank you? She interprets it as a thank you for her silence.
       In 1990, Clinton honored one of the patients at the nursing home, but Broaddrick says she wasn't there, and didn't learn of the visit until after the fact.
       Broaddrick says she had no face-to-face contact with Clinton until 1991, when she attended a meeting in Little Rock with two friends. They all say it was a nursing home meeting --

 

but none can remember the date, nor do they have any records --

 

so we can't confirm it.
       Broaddrick does remember that she was suddenly called out of the meeting, and, she says, to her surprise, there was Bill Clinton in the hallway. One friend says she saw them talking:
       Broaddrick: "And he immediately began this profuse apology, saying, 'Juanita, I'm so sorry for what I did. I'm not the man that I used to be, can you ever forgive me? What can I do to make this up to you?' And I'm standing there in absolute shock. And I told him to go to hell, and I walked off."
       But Broaddrick remained silent when she learned soon after that Clinton was making a bid for the Oval Office.
       Myers: "Here the man is running for president, doesn't the country have a right to know this?"
       Broaddrick: "Yes, and that's what I got to thinking about --

 

David and I talked about it. We talked about it, and I cried about it. It brought up a lot of hurt, and a lot of things that I'd buried years ago. And then we just decided it wouldn't be in our best interest to do it. So we decided not to."
       In fact, Clinton's political opponents say she rebuffed their efforts to get her to come forward before the 1992 election. After she turned them down, one of the men suggested she had been paid off.
       Myers: "Did you receive any payoff to stay silent?"
       Broaddrick: "Oh goodness, no. I mean how could anyone be bribed or paid-off for, for something that, to not say anything about something that horrible?"
       Myers: "Did Bill Clinton or anyone near him ever threaten you, try to intimidate you, do anything to keep you silent?"
       Broaddrick: "No."
       Myers: "This has been strictly your choice."
       Broaddrick: "Yes."
       Broaddrick says she was determined to keep the incident quiet.
       But in 1997, her hand was forced when she was subpoenaed by Paula Jones' lawyers.
       She filed an affidavit in that case --

 

under oath as Jane Doe 5 --

 

denying any "unwelcome sexual advances" by Clinton. She said "These allegations are untrue," and "there is no truth to the rumors."
       Broaddrick: "I didn't want to be forced to testify about one of the most horrific events in my life. I didn't want to go through it again."
       She later told the same story, denying the assault, in a sworn deposition in the Jones case.
       Myers: "Last March another woman comes forward, Kathleen Willey, accuses the president of unwanted sexual advances --

 

why didn't you come forward?"
       Broaddrick: "Well Lisa, I would get up in the morning and I would think: it's the thing to do. Then by nighttime I would think that could bring no good whatsoever to my life. And I'm sorry for these women. I'm sorry for what they went through, but I just wasn't brave enough to do it. There's nothing else to say."
       But she changed her mind and changed her story, when Independent Counsel Ken Starr's office approached her last April --

 

investigating wrong-doing in the Jones case.
       Broaddrick says she feared lying to a federal grand jury, and once Starr granted her immunity from prosecution for perjury --

 

she agreed to come forward with details of her allegations against Clinton.
       But Starr did not pursue the allegations further because he was investigating obstruction of justice charges against the president. Broaddrick never alleged any obstruction --

 

said the president never urged her to lie --

 

so Starr didn't pursue the allegations any further.
       Finally, after months of contact with us, Broadderick decided to speak to NBC News, on Jan. 20, in the middle of the Senate impeachment trial.
       Myers: "Then why now Juanita?"
       Broaddrick: (Very emotional) "I just couldn't hold it in any longer. I didn't want [my] granddaughters and nieces, when they're 21 years old to turn to me and say, 'Why didn't you tell what this man did to you?'"
       We repeatedly asked the White House what it knew about Juanita Broaddrick --

 

about her character or possible motivation. We got no response.
       We checked with local and federal law enforcement officials, who told us she's a solid citizen with no criminal record and that they take her allegations very seriously.
       Broaddrick knows that some people have suggested her injuries 21 years ago were inflicted not by Clinton, but by her first husband, Gary Hickey.
       Divorce papers obtained by NBC News show that one year after the alleged assault by Clinton, Juanita and Hickey had an altercation. She says Hickey struck her in the mouth. He told NBC News it was an accident. Broaddrick says that is the only time her husband hit her, and there are no records of any earlier incident.
       Could Broaddrick have a financial motive --

 

is she hoping to cash in? She says she and her husband are financially comfortable, have turned down any offer to tell her story for money, and have no plans for anything else.
       Myers: "No book deal?"
       Broaddrick: "No book deal."
       Myers: "No lawsuit?
       Broaddrick: "Absolutely not. I don't want to sue Bill Clinton and I do not want to write a book."
       Finally, did Broaddrick have any other motivation for going public now with her allegations? Were politics behind the decision? Broaddrick's personal attorney is a Republican state senator in Arkansas, but he says he did not know she decided to go public until she talked to NBC. Broaddrick says she is not registered with any political party --

 

and the Broadrricks say they have donated money to both Republican and Democratic candidates.
       Myers: "What is the purpose? Do you want to destroy the president?"
       Broaddrick: "No, I don't want to do anything. I do not have an agenda. I want to put all these rumors to rest. I buried this a long time ago, Lisa, and the only thing I'm trying to do now is clear up all these stories."
       But after all this time, how does Juanita Broaddrick feel about Bill Clinton?
       Broaddrick: "I couldn't say it on the air. My hatred for him is overwhelming."
       Overwhelming enough to invent a story, to distort a memory, all to destroy a presidency? Absolutely not, she says.
       Myers: "Twenty years after it happened, having never reported it to authorities, after signing an affidavit denying anything ever happened, now you come forward. You understand how skeptical people may be?"
       Broaddrick: "Certainly I can. But I was also afraid what would happen to me if I came forward. I was afraid that I would be destroyed like so many of the other women have been."

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1 posted on 06/30/2003 8:25:15 PM PDT by Mia T
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To: jla
thx ping
2 posted on 06/30/2003 8:30:20 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: OldFriend
Thx for the heads up ping
3 posted on 06/30/2003 8:31:36 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: Mia T
Setting aside ones' opinion of Hillary Clinton (and mine is as low of her as everyone else here) people need to get over the idea (which has inspired some REALLY long threads on FR) that being a criminal defense attorney in the structure of the American legal system is inherently evil or immoral. There seems to be a fairly large proportion of people that just don't get it.

Without a really extensive investigation and article on the specific case in question it's not clear what the facts are or whether a rape really occured, hence whether the person Hillary defended was a "rapist." Not every allegation of rape is true. (And I speak as someone who has been on a jury in a sexual molestation case and was basically the sole person that persuaded the rest of the jury to convict the defendant.)
4 posted on 06/30/2003 8:33:53 PM PDT by John H K
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To: Mia T
There are a lot of people over in rural Arkansas that will tell you there is no such thing as rape. Ole Bill has probably heard it numerous times.
5 posted on 06/30/2003 8:35:26 PM PDT by oyez (Is this a great country or what?)
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To: Mia T
When I visited the alleged rapist in the county jail, I learned that he was an uneducated "chicken catcher." His job was to collect chickens from the large warehouse farms for one of the local processing plants.

Let me guess...

The name of the plant was "Tyson"?

It would be interesting to find out.

6 posted on 06/30/2003 8:43:31 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: Mia T
As powerful as ever, thanks for your clever portrayal of truth!
7 posted on 06/30/2003 8:47:59 PM PDT by Wolverine
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To: John H K
The pesky fact of the defendant's semen and blood on the twelve-year-old girl renders it statutory rape, by definition.

That said, the issue isn't THAT rapist. The issue isn't LAWYERS. The issue is the RAPIST CLINTONS.

The evidence in the Ford Bldg was sufficient to change enough votes in the House to impeach the basta*d. And SHE is just as guilty as he, perhaps even more so.

8 posted on 06/30/2003 8:56:37 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: Mia T
Hi. What happened to the Doug from Upland links?
9 posted on 06/30/2003 9:02:12 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: aruanan; doug from upland
Was just about to ping doug ;)
10 posted on 06/30/2003 9:11:26 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: Mia T
Out of the closets!
Into the streets!

Gennifer Flowers, Passion & Betrayal, Emery Dalton, 1995, page 41:

From my copy:

The time Bill and I had together was too precious to waste talking about his wife, but when I heard some rumors floating around Little Rock, I had to speak up. He was with me at home one evening, and I cautiously told him, "There's something you need to know. I've been hearing tales around town that Hillary is having a thing with another woman." I watched his face to see his reaction, and couldn't believe it when he burst out laughing. I was stunned! I asked him what was so funny. "Honey," he said, "she's probably eaten more p---y than I have."

11 posted on 06/30/2003 9:11:48 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: WorkingClassFilth; Gail Wynand; looscannon; Lonesome in Massachussets; Freedom'sWorthIt; IVote2; ...
Q ERTY3BUMP!

12 posted on 06/30/2003 9:23:10 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: cherry_bomb88; FBD; iceskater; JustPiper; Mudboy Slim; sultan88
...wading thru vacuous Clinton muck ping
13 posted on 06/30/2003 9:25:00 PM PDT by jla
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To: cyncooper
name of the plant was "Tyson"?

You mean the same Tyson Foods who donated all that cash to Clinton's campaigns?
Why I just betcha that had nothing to do with Hillary opting for "local processing plants" instead of the proper name of the place.

14 posted on 06/30/2003 9:29:50 PM PDT by jla
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To: John H K
Your comments would be valid if we weren't speaking of the reprobate Clinton's.
reread the excerpt from the book and tell me how many of H's thoughts 'n recollections appear a tad skewed, as well as deceptive.

H using the term "woman lawyer" just bugs the heck out of me for some reason.

15 posted on 06/30/2003 9:37:48 PM PDT by jla
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To: Mia T
"He tried to rape some b*tch"

Of course. It was all HER fault.
16 posted on 06/30/2003 9:39:04 PM PDT by SendShaqtoIraq
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To: jla
See my response.

p.s. I should have included the "statutory rape, by definition" argument in my original analysis.

17 posted on 06/30/2003 9:46:30 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: jla
I'm just guessing, mind you. But yes, the Tyson/Clinton connection was quite a tight one, indeed.

And in fairness, it could very well be some other chicken plant in Arkansas.
18 posted on 06/30/2003 10:00:17 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
And in fairness, it could very well be some other chicken plant in Arkansas.

Could be.
But I can't help to wonder why the co.'s name wasn't used, as is the case with the "eminent scientist from New York" whose testimony so proved the chicken catcher's innocence that he pled, and was found guilty, of sexual abuse. (a moment o'victory in H's ethically-warped mind)

19 posted on 06/30/2003 10:09:35 PM PDT by jla
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To: Mia T
And SHE is just as guilty as he, perhaps even more so.

If not more guilty, H is certainly the more scary of the two.


And T, your original analysis was well thought out & well put forth.

20 posted on 06/30/2003 10:16:12 PM PDT by jla
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To: Mia T
Yep, I read the page in the book before I returned it to WalMart when she defended the guy and then started the rape hot line. There is something, however, you need to know about her rape hotline ---

MIDI - I JUST CALLED TO SAY I LOVE YOU

My sisters, all…I’m on the ball
I have a rape line…all you need to do is call
No need for fear…’cause I’m right here
Just tell your troubles and you’ll have a friendly ear

No effort’s spared…please don’t be scared
We have compassion and our staff is well prepared
They’ve been to school…each one’s a jewel
But I must let you know we have one simple rule

Do not call to say Bill raped you
Do not call to say that Bill’s the one
Do not call to say Bill raped you
There would be so many nothin’ would get done

Brutality…is wrong, you see
And in this matter you can count on Hillary
I’ll do my best…I’ll pass the test
Until the scumbag’s caught I’ll never let it rest

No effort’s spared…please don’t be scared
We have compassion and our staff is well prepared
They’ve been to school…each one’s a jewel
But I must let you know we have one simple rule

Do not call to say Bill raped you
Do not call to say that Bill’s the one
Do not call to say Bill raped you
There would be so many nothin’ would get done

Do not call to say Bill raped you
Do not call to say that Bill’s the one
Do not call to say Bill raped you
There would be so many nothin’ would get done

That’s my Willy…that’s my Willy

21 posted on 06/30/2003 10:29:37 PM PDT by doug from upland (Martha is indicted and the Clintons still walk free.........what a country)
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To: jla
Chk hillary's account. The expert witness didn't prove the rapist INNOCENT. He merely injected confusion into the mix, a la Barry Scheck of the OJ outrage.

Expert-witnessdom is an industry unto itself and many--if not most--expert witnesses sell their souls without giving it a second thought.

I actually had the opportunity to impeach a renowned cardiologist and author of the seminal text on heart disease WITH MATERIAL FROM HIS OWN TEXT, which he, of course, was disinclined to refute. ;)
22 posted on 06/30/2003 10:37:33 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: doug from upland; jla; Mudboy Slim
Does doug post his FReeps on the Black Threads??? Mud? jla? Perhaps doug needs to!
23 posted on 06/30/2003 10:48:47 PM PDT by cherry_bomb88 (The mind is its own place, and in itself can make heaven of hell, a hell of heaven~Milton)
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To: jla; Mia T
Another fabulous post...thanks for the resources of boundless information, Mia. :o)
24 posted on 06/30/2003 10:49:37 PM PDT by cherry_bomb88 (The mind is its own place, and in itself can make heaven of hell, a hell of heaven~Milton)
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To: Mia T; Mudboy Slim
The expert witness didn't prove the rapist INNOCENT.

He absolutely did not.

Expert-witnessdom is an industry unto itself and many--if not most--expert witnesses sell their souls without giving it a second thought.

I'm glad that you're one of the good guys, Mia.

I actually had the opportunity to impeach a renowned cardiologist and author of the seminal text on heart disease WITH MATERIAL FROM HIS OWN TEXT, which he, of course, was disinclined to refute.

T, I do believe that you could've deftly spelled Mr. Daniel Webster in his argument v. the devil.

As our friend Mudboy Slim is fond of saying: MIA T ROCKS!

25 posted on 06/30/2003 11:03:58 PM PDT by jla
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To: cherry_bomb88; Mia T
Another fabulous post

Thanks! But give Mia some credit too, willya! (LOL)

26 posted on 06/30/2003 11:05:36 PM PDT by jla
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To: jla
Thx.
I think the additions below, especially
"
The defendant's semen and blood
on the twelve-year-old girl
renders the act statutory rape, by definition
,"
strengthen the argument.

Cillary clinton is following Lanny Davis' counsel. She's getting all the (non-actionable) damaging stuff out early and, if you discount the literary demimonde of ghost writers, hacks, and publicists, she's getting it out herself.

It's worth noting that a "congenital liar" like missus clinton, (Bill Safire's right-on early diagnosis), will experience absolutely no cognitive dissonance when following Lanny Davis' slick advice: "Truth to Tell" does not mean "Tell theTruth."

Blue Gap Dress Redux

Consistent with Davis' advice, clinton tells us that she bought an expert witness to help her get the rapist off. (The defendant's semen and blood on the twelve-year-old girl renders the act statutory rape, by definition.) The expert was "an eminent" (but strangely never identified) "scientist from New York," whose charge it was to muddle the puddle of semen and blood to such an extent that the rapist, who "didn't do it" could eventually plead to the lesser crime of sexual abuse.

It is also worth noting that the missus is sticking closely to the clinton playbook: No, the clintons are not the co-rapists that they manifestly are; rather, they are a "minister to 100s of troubled young girls" and a contemplator of "setting up Arkansas's first rape hot line." NB: no mention of its actual implementation, however.

In short, the clintons didn't rape all those women. The clintons rescued them.


27 posted on 06/30/2003 11:09:45 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: doug from upland
great, doug!
were you inspired by that passage in the book?
or was the song already written?
28 posted on 06/30/2003 11:25:22 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: Mia T; doug from upland; DoughtyOne; Enemy Of The State; FreepForever; Byron_the_Aussie; ...
Preeminent among the lying, looting, mass-murdering, psychopathological co-serial rapist KKKli'toons' all-time heroes is the gruesome obscenity and medieval mass-murderer, the predator, Mao, who raped thousands of children, hundreds of them in some single years.

Little wonder, then, that the Peking-based pack of lying, looting, thieving, mass-murdering, psychopathological, mandarin-wannabe gangster bastards that has self-annointed and self-perpetuated itself that manifestation of evil's bastard offspring -- and claimed as its inheritance the lives and liberty of Mao's more than a billion medieval slaves -- is the KKli'toons' only "friend" on Earth.

And knew him as "our man in Washington.

Little wonder.
29 posted on 07/01/2003 1:35:31 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mia T
Gulping for air, I started crying and yelling at him, 'What do you mean? What are you saying? Why did you lie to me?’
30 posted on 07/01/2003 2:44:02 AM PDT by NYpeanut
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To: Mia T
You go, Mia! I think your threads are a necessity now more than ever. People forget the exactitudes of what they distain, and need reminding. I never saw that interview of Gore by the young woman, although I certainly heard about it. Boy what disembling and squirming, but he did get the point and did try to justify his public adoration of the Criminal in Office, his boss. To his detriment. Thanks!
31 posted on 07/01/2003 7:20:07 AM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts (I see the world and my surroundings in a new light and I still hate all things Clinton)
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"...people need to get over the idea (which has inspired some REALLY long threads on FR) that being a criminal defense attorney in the structure of the American legal system is inherently evil or immoral."

John, the point is not whether a rape actually occurred or, for that matter, the merits of being an attorney. The idea here is about the Clinton machinations surrounding this chicken catcher's sexual crime in particular, and documenting the larger, more continuous Krinton pattern of legal subversion and sexual predation.

The Krinton crimes continue and the need for documentation continues. Thank you, Mia.
32 posted on 07/01/2003 7:35:30 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Defund NPR, PBS and the LSC.)
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To: doug from upland
"Do not call to say Bill raped you..."

Your lyrics are amazing. In some ways, it is a pity that your talents are needfully directed to pinning and disecting the Krinton disease. Nonetheless, they are gems!
33 posted on 07/01/2003 7:45:13 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Defund NPR, PBS and the LSC.)
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To: John H K
Here is my interpretation of the 'rape case'.

HRC states that she consulted with a NY attorney and he cast doubt on the semen evidence. How this could be done from afar without a scientific exam by the attorney is a mystery.

Further, it would seem that HRC used this 'expert' opinion to convince the judge to allow the rapist to plead guilty to sexual assault.

If the evidence was not reliable then why not simply go to trial.

Poor folks just don't get justice, or the attorney for the rapist was simply more interested in impressing the Judge than seeing that the victim got justice.

You decide!

34 posted on 07/01/2003 7:36:31 PM PDT by OldFriend ((BUSH/CHENEY 2004))
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To: Mia T
Bump! Brilliant as usual Mia T!

Marxist revolutionaries will adopt any disguise - civil rights worker, feminist, peace activist, environmentalist - as a cover for their real work of building socialism.

But Hillary as a moderate democrat isn't selling; her hagiologist have tried to interject this notion and it ain't working - people are beginning to see through the tried Clintonism; it didn't work for Bill once the public realized he was about as moderate as Stalin, and it won't for Hillary.

I've often wondered about the novel, and I can't remember the title or author, but it is about a burglar who finds himself having to jump into a closet which turns out to have a one-way mirror and he watches the then president rape and eventually kill the woman. The secrete service people mop up and leave.....this could have been written about Bill Clinton; nothing he would do would be a surprise.

Juanita Broaddrick’s experience with Hillary putting pressure on her hand and arm is much like what Ward Connerly went though with Al Gore when he refused to yield to either Clinton or Gore on the subject of quotas when Clinton asked him to come to the Oval Office for a ‘little chat’; on leaving the office, Gore grabbed Ward’s hand and deliberately squeezed his fingers until the man nearly cried out with pain – saying we’ll be seeing you or something to that effect. Ward was dumb founded.

To underestimate the lengths Hillary will go to with her bid for the White House in 2004 – if she can get them to draft her or in 2008, is to stick your head in the sand. These are ruthless sociopaths and they have an impressive array of Socialist/Marxist with money behind them from blinded feminists, teachers, tenured Marxist professors, gay & lesbian militants and the media here and abroad. Their propaganda and spin machines are in full throttle; make no mistake about the book tours – this is campaigning and nothing else.

Her publisher Simon & Schuster owns Verizon or visa-versa, Verizon has refused to comply with a subpoena – and the junior senator from New York is using her clout you can bet your sweet arse to thwart justice. Were this a republican senator abusing his/her power how long do you think it would be before they were sent packing? Hillary is not fit to even be a senator but has pillaged her way once more into government; a more inappropriate, un-American who will trash our Constitution and Sovereignty in a heartbeat for her own power can’t be imagined. She is a living LIE and would and does bring with her baggage that can’t be denied, a rapist, an impeached, lying, womanizing, filthy piece of ca-ca if she ever could set foot in the people’s house again, Bill. NO TO HILLARY!!!

35 posted on 07/10/2003 6:13:18 PM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe
bump!

In short, the clintons didn't rape all those women. The clintons rescued them.



EPILOGUE: (ADDITIONAL AUDIO)
Hear Christopher Shays: "The bottom line: HE DID RAPE BROADDRICK.

Direct link to Shays audio HERE
(special thanx to Wolverine for finding Shays audio)  

36 posted on 07/10/2003 6:31:38 PM PDT by Mia T (SCUM (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations))
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To: yoe
This is lengthy, but it's the latest Clinton artful dodge. By the time people figure what's goin' on, Billy Clinton done been there and gone (here's the straight dope on Hillary and 9-11):

There is nothing in the Constitution about freedom to practice law; there is nothing in the Constitution about freedom to practice medicine; there is nothing in the Constitution about freedom to engage in commerce; there is nothing in the Constitution about teaching. But there is something in the Constitution about freedom of the press. Our Founding Fathers understood, that it would be necessary to have a watchdog on government. -Jack Anderson

UNIVERSITY of BILL CLINTON, home of the AL QAEDA AIR FORCE

I began writing about CSU Monterey Bay (the University of Bill Clinton) years ago, but while perusing my sources these facts jumped out at me, as if for the first time. I believed the presence of the Middle Eastern flight students domiciled on Fort Ord between 1996 and 2001, to be public knowledge. The Clinton Administration, however, has apparently obfuscated this information. The following explains how these students came to be on the former fort, and includes an excerpt from an internal document, in which the school’s politically appointed president corroborates their stay. I moved to Fort Ord to attend the “model base closure,” and resided on campus from August 1995 to July 1999. I knew that Middle Eastern flight students also resided on the fort during the summer months because I saw them, and CSUMB students were recruited, via an electronic open forum, to accommodate their visits.

Although Bill Clinton dedicated CSUMB August 1995, it occurred to me only recently, that the would-be pilots came to Fort Ord at the behest of the Clintons. Those otherwise unaffiliated with CSUMB would be ineligible for university housing. In other words, teenage, Arab flight students, couldn’t just rent anything on Fort Ord. Without knowing CSUMB’s “skunk works” agenda to “reform higher education in America,” conceived at George Washington University -- and the affiliation between The Clinton Administration, education, and Arab causes -- it didn’t make sense. Yet, Hillary Clinton openly held up a sign proclaiming “He [George Bush] Knew.”

Before the 9-11 investigation closes, it appears that few, besides the Clintons, know that sixty plus pilots of Middle Eastern origin may be wholly unaccounted for -- or that The Clinton Administration has any connection to the flight students trained between 1996 and 2001, at the Monterey International Airport, while wards of CSUMB President Smith (please see excerpt from his early document). The underlined passage refers to the Middle Eastern flight students, the length of their training course -- time enough to familiarize themselves with US airport protocols, etc. -- while the remainder of the report goes on to record other aspects of the West Coast “experiment.” According to Peter P. Smith, “The snapshot becomes informed by the historical underpinnings and legacies of the awakenings and beginnings of this endeavor.”

Excerpt: 25 page, CSU Monterey Bay report. Author: former congressman (R.Vt.), Lt. Governor (Vt.), Clinton selectee and founding President Smith. (Att. 5th paragraph, lines 3 to 9):


... In between course scheduling for the upcoming Fall semester, curriculum development, CPEC [California Postsecondary Education Commission] approval for majors and an ongoing series of workshops on outcome-based education and assessment, faculty and staff prepared for a modest ceremony to mark the end of CSUMB’s first academic year. Twenty-four teacher credentials were to be issued in the presence of members of the campus community and over 250 family members and friends of the recipients.

Despite a commitment to year-round education, the administration and the faculty decided not to offer summer classes this first year to allow for renewal and ongoing university-wide planning, recruitment and the development of a formal governance structure. The Academic Senate Organizing Committee, formed earlier in the year, set about the work of drafting a constitution and creating a ratification process. Meetings among ASOC and the President and the Interim Vice President for Academic Affairs occurred throughout the summer.

The rush to renovate two new residence halls and additional office and classroom space continued. Another round of federally allocated EDA funds for the renovation and build-out of campus facilities was anticipated. Before it was in hand, the $14 million would be held hostage to the discrimination complaints of local minority contractors. By Fall 1996, the issues would be mediated and the funds would be released.

During the early summer there was a reorganization of Residential and Dining Services that afforded the Director of Housing the opportunity to take a one-year staff development leave. Housing facilities and operations became a separate unit as did residential learning. Preparations and planning for year two were well under way as the summer unfolded.

The Fort Ord Alumni Association, a group of former Fort Ord military personnel, is established by the Office for Institutional Advancement and becomes the largest alumni association in the world [Fort Ord’s former servicemen now serve as alumni.] The University provided housing and dining services for its first group of foreign students from the United Arab Emirates. They paid for the rehabilitation of the housing facilities they inhabited and used a nearby airport during a six-week flight training course. Members of the campus community questioned their presence as a viable, educational endeavor (emphasis mine). Cultures clashed when the group of 15-19 year old males encountered the female students employed at the dining commons. The venture will eventually succeed and a new group of students will return during the summer of 1997.

A vivid reminder of the work still to be done washed over the campus when a team of accreditation evaluators visited at the end of May 1996, to plan and direct some 35 faculty and staff in preparation for a November 1997 accreditation visit. A non-traditional thematic model for self-study was formally launched and would be approved by WASC [Western Association of Schools and Colleges - a “same sex” accrediting agency] in December 1996. An Interim Director for Institutional Research was hired to initiate baseline data collection on students and propose a planning orientation in tandem with the self-study work. A full-time Director for the Accreditation Self-Study was also hired [Simply put, self-study means self-accredited].

The President directed the Interim Vice President for Academic Affairs to convene a Student Services Task Force to address the recurring issues of housing, advising, child-care, and declining student morale. A cross-functional team of faculty, staff and students digs into what proved to be a difficult and change-laden process. The final report with recommendations would be issued in October 1996. Budget deliberations continued throughout the summer. The search for the Vice President for Academic Affairs was well under way and over the summer four candidates would emerge and meet the campus community. The frontrunner [sic] would accept the offer and join the CSUMB community in October 1996. [Dr. B. Dell Felder came from the University of Texas, and as it turned out -- she was an FOB, “friend of Bill’s.”] At the same time Student Services would be reorganized from a Center to a ‘division’ and the Interim Vice President for Academic Affairs would be appointed Vice President for Student Affairs.

With this reorganization, the Dean of the Center for Residential Learning, Wellness and Student Services resigned. [Actually, Dean Mary Ellen Ashley caused upward of $73.000 to “disappear,” and she took one year off with pay to explore career options. Ms. Ashley’s personal assistant and romantic interest, Ms. Jenais Brodie, had falsified her resume. Brodie, like many of Smith’s “culturally diverse, highly-respected faculty and staff,” had lied about her credentials. Ms. Ashley and Ms. Brodie, both decided to take an “administrative position out of state,” but not before Ms. Brodie was also provided housing and paid leave for one full year -- while she tried unsuccessfully to complete her Master’s Degree off-campus.] The change brought a need to clarify and reassess the focus and direction of the unit. The new Vice President directed his efforts to residential learning, team-building and the ongoing development of a formal set of priorities at the Cabinet level. ‘Students First’ continued to be the institutional mantra.

‘Transformation,’ the theme for the second year of operation, revealed what had occurred and what remains for the successful future of CSUMB. It suggests a process and an end product. It suggests simultaneous realities, stability and change, innovation and renewal and above all, it suggests learning. By the end of its first year of operation, CSUMB had been converted from the largest military base in the nation [acreage wise] to the 21st campus in the CSU. Its planning and infrastructure began to emerge [the acreage had been used by both the Army and the Navy during the 20th Century for target practice. Unbeknownst to students, they would live on the nation’s third largest Super Find site], along with its accomplishments and growth ... / end excerpt.



the SAINT and the “SKUNK WORKS”

News Item: 02 February 2004, Los Angeles, Calif. -- Superior Court Judge Audrey Collins, ruled that it is not illegal to aid or abet terrorists. Judge Collins (a Clinton appointee), issued the blanket invalidation of existing law and legislated in effect, that one may legally help to train Al Qaeda members. The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruling would also exonerate all, who helped train the Al Qaeda air force at Fort Ord of liability. Clinton Defense Secretary Les Aspen, slated Fort Ord for base closure and handed it off to the US Department of Education, who in turn handed off to CPEC, The CSU, and Leon Panetta. The “model base conversion,” became the University of Bill Clinton. And Clinton White House chief of staff, 17h District congressman (D.Cal.), paid education adviser, and CSUMB “patron saint” -- director of the Panetta Institute for Public Policy -- Leon Panetta, built his (publicly funded) political institute on Fort Ord.

Leon Panetta advocated for the rights of the Al Qaeda members held at Guantanimo Bay, Cuba, on both Fox and CNN -- and the 9th Circuit ruled favorably on those sentiments as well. Unlike the other Middle Eastern flight students, Fort Ord’s would-be pilots were domiciled through the auspices of Hillary Clinton. And, Bill O’Reilly wondered aloud on The O’Reilly Factor, why the junior senator from New York, attended none of the funerals for the victims of 9-11. The Clintons had chosen Fort Ord, as a bold venue to “reform higher education in America,” in concert with a “skunk works” -- a place of adolescent assumption that the past does not exist, and the present needs only your guiding hand to create a glorious future -- conceived by Peter P. Smith (then) Dean of the School of Human Development and Education, George Washington University. Hillary Clinton’s vision for remodeling civilization had, in fact, all the vaulting ambition, didactic moralizing, and intellectual incoherence of Peter P. Smith’s keynote address.

The Clinton Administration was committed to the idea, that most terrorists were misunderstood, had legitimate grievances, and could be appeased. Fort Ord became a haven for the very threats Bill Clinton, Leon Panetta, and Peter P. Smith had sworn to uphold the Constitution and protect against -- enemies both foreign and domestic. From 1996 to 2001, The Clinton Administration, in their vision to remake the West, may have helped train upward of sixty Al Qaeda members. I observed a group of 10 to 12 Middle Eastern males as they walked across the library parking lot. And given the ages of the twenty, 9-11 hijackers, no real Al Qaeda air wing could have existed before 1996. Peter P. Smith says he graduated 399 students from 1997 to 2003. All things being equal, that’s 57 graduates per year for seven years -- 28.5 students at its secular ceremony, and 28.5 students at its separate La Raza ceremony -- or 285 graduates by 2001. If Peter P. Smith helped only 60 Al Qaeda members learn to fly by 9-11, for each 10 college students, Smith also graduated an additional 2.10 Middle Eastern pilots. That’s 202 conduits to terror all total (the 142 odd Mechistas portend to overthrow the government, by any means necessary), vs. 142 “traditional graduates.” California spends half its budget or $50 billion-dollars per year on education ($1 trillion-dollars nationally), $450 billion since Bill Clinton dedicated CSUMB.

MONTEREY to ABU DHABI

After the 1999 M.E.Ch.A. uprising, CSUMB Provost Dell Felder was “invited to provide academic leadership, for the development of a new university in the United Arab Emirates.” Students would connect-the-dots between the UAE flight students, Dell Felder’s exodus to the UAE, and Bill Clinton’s 2003 appearance on The Late Show. During the show, Bill Clinton told David Letterman that he had just returned from visiting a friend in the Middle East, who had presided over a graduation ceremony at a new university -- four years to the day -- from Dell Felder’s extended hiatus. Bill Clinton also expressed admiration over multiculturalism, but estimated that an integrated global economy, diversity and multiculturalism, might take a couple more years. But when David Letterman brought up the 1998 bombing of the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing 224, including 12 Americans and injuring more than 5,000 -- although Osama bin Laden was believed responsible -- “a meaningless facial tic” flashed across Bill Clinton’s face so fast, it was almost imperceptible.

From the Central Coast to the Gold Coast -- from Monterey to Abu Dhabi, no matter how shocking, appalling or abysmal their performance, CSUMB’s pedagogues were invariably promoted to positions of greater trust -- and awarded fatter pay envelopes. For hers, at any rate, Dr. B. Dell would never again have to do the Macarena, six and seven times a day.

Dr. Judith Ramaley, the 21st president of the University of Vermont, authored CSUMB’s final accreditation report. There’s no connection, of course, between former (Vt.) Lt. Governor Peter P. Smith, his brother Charles Smith (who heads Vermont’s Department of Human Services with the largest budget of Vermont’s five state agencies), and Dr. Ramaley. So utterly ridiculous is Judith Ramaley’s report, that it defies even her interpretation. Currently, Ramaley is Assistant Director of Education and Human Resources, National Science Foundation. The NSF essentially issues grants. NSF agenda: “boundary crossing strategies, embracing the habits of engagement, and infusing education with the excitement of discovery.” Again, one need only discover the nexus between Hillary Clinton, Peter P. Smith, and Judith Ramaley to understand CSUMB’s miraculous ability to excite, and infuse itself with whopping amounts of grant money.

To further enhance the “skunk works” financial well-being, before leaving office, Bill Clinton raised the ceiling on student loans, and effected monumental increases in Federal-funding for schools with a 28 percent Hispanic enrollment. CSUMB enrolls 28 percent Hispanic. According to The Monterey Herald, 2003 -- Stumping for Gray Davis, speaking in the Leon Panetta Lecture Series and swinging a few clubs, Bill Clinton’s finally breezing into town next week. As part of a three-day trip to the West Coast, the former president will appear at a special sold-out Panetta Institute forum. Together with institute founder Leon Panetta, his former chief of staff, Clinton will discuss ‘The Challenges of Presidential Leadership in the 21st Century.’ The former colleagues will also challenge local chefs and tackle a formidable seafood dinner.

The Clintons knew the proximity to Super Fund site would expose students to hazardous substances. And Peter P. Smith called enrolling students: “our single worst decision.” But Leon Panetta scratches his head when it comes to CSUMB. The Panetta Institute is only located on Fort Ord, writes Panetta. Good luck with your educational endeavors. Leon Panetta and Peter P. Smith had inherited two large tracts of Army housing -- for which they had become the landlords -- guaranteeing each man a handsome income in perpetuity. During his talk, the 42nd President of the United States mentions neither education, nor his role in bringing CSUMB to fruition. Fort Ord had become yet another Clinton venue for personal prerequisite, social engineering -- and a black hole for hundreds-of-millions of taxpayer dollars. CSUMB has no product, no academic plan, no assessment method, no grade complaint policy -- and no reason for being -- except to function as a giant slush fund and occasional golf outing. Accreditation also means Peter P. Smith takes direct control of CSUMB’s carefully crafted Federal financial-aid funds.

Before his recall, Governor Gray Davis announced the appointment of Margaret J. “Dee Dee” Myers, as The CSU’s 23rd Trustee. Ms. Myers served as White House press secretary under Bill Clinton from ‘93 to ‘94. Dee Dee also resided in Leon Panetta’s 17th Congressional District, and despite the obvious discrepancies in their ages -- Dee Dee was billed as an old school chum of Hillary’s. It was Press Secretary Dee Dee, who would cut her tenure short by revealing that the White House, instead of a disinterested FBI investigation had initiated the Travel Office firings. Dee Dee, had only sought to show how the Clintons’ were ferreting out corruption, but instead revealed the targets of an investigation. Subsequent investigations would also prove Hillary’s denial of having any knowledge of the Travel Office fiasco, categorically false. Dee Dee and the other twenty-two CSU Trustees, approve the three annual raises for the CSU faculty, and the twenty-three presidents. The 17th District is as notorious for its (some say bought) presidential drug pardons, as is Dee Dee for her DUIs.

RETURN to GEORGE WASHINGTON (UNIVERSITY)

News Item: 23 February 2004 -- One year from the inception of the Homeland Security Organization, Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, speaking at George Washington University, talked about that crisp September morning -- and told listeners that we are all responsible for protecting freedom. News Item: 24 Feb. -- The New York Times reported the German intelligence tip about one UAE flyer, two and one-half years before 9-11. But, as early as ‘96, President Clinton knew about “Operation Bojinka” (loud bang), a plot to use commercial airliners as weapons. Bill Clinton appointed (then) Vice President Al Gore to chair the White House Commission on Aviation Safety and Security. Al Gore’s report, released Spring ‘98, for improving airport security included a system for profiling passengers. Al Gore’s plan was scrapped, ostensibly due to legal problems inherent in profiling based on ethnicity and national origin. Gore’s findings also emphasized the need for the sharing of information among the CIA, FBI, the INS, and FAA on suspected terrorists -- while Smith and Panetta collected their rents.

On 06 August ‘98, Monica Lewinsky testified under immunity to the Grand Jury (Monica had been subpoenaed to appear at a ‘97 deposition in the Paula Jones suit, and her testimony about having had sex at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue would sink Bill Clinton). But less than twenty-four hours later on 07 August, bombs exploded in Nairobi and Dar-es-Salaam. Bill Clinton’s blasé response to the simultaneous bombings, included blowing-up an aspirin factory and authorizing the CIA to kill bin Laden (bin Laden could be killed by accident, but not on purpose). Clinton had already passed-up a chance to take bin Laden into custody -- but pushed regime change through Congress as a pillar of American foreign policy. Ten days after the embassy bombings, Bill offered the nation an angry backhanded apology for an “inappropriate relationship.”

Noted facial recognition expert, UC San Francisco Psychologist Paul Ekman, appearing in The New Yorker, says: I was watching [Bill Clinton’s] facial expressions, and I said to my wife, This is [Dr. M. Scott] Peck’s Bad Boy ... This is a guy who wants to be caught with his hand in the cookie jar, and have us love him for it anyway. Dr. Ekman paused, then reconstructed that particular sequence of expressions on his face ... rolled his eyes-and it was as if Slick Willie himself were suddenly in the room. Dr. Ekman felt that Clinton’s expression conveyed, I’m a bad boy. Says Ekman, I don’t think it’s a good thing. Dr. Ekman told a member of Clinton’s communication staff he could teach him how not to do that. The staffer said, Well, we can’t take the risk that he’s known to be seeing an expert on lying. Ekman rather liked Clinton, and wanted Clinton’s ‘trademark expression,’ to have been no more than a meaningless facial tic. Ekman shrugged, Unfortunately, I guess, he needed to get caught-and he got caught.

When he served in the White House Leon Panetta says, The administration feared terrorist attacks from unconventional means such as nerve gas or small-scale nuclear weapons. When a ‘demented’ man flying a small plane crashed on the White House south lawn ... the ‘specter’ of an airborne attack became real. But Leon Panetta says, [he] Never foresaw the kind of devastation that hit New York and Washington [the Pentagon, Arlington Virginia]. Leon Panetta was in Washington [9-12] and had planned to fly back to Monterey that evening. But with the nation’s airports shut down, he was stuck. I’m seriously considering a rental car, said Panetta.

The University provided housing and dining services for its first group of foreign students from the United Arab Emirates. They ... used a nearby airport during a six-week flight training course ... [t]he venture will eventually succeed. -Peter P. Smith 1996.

Post 9-11, Leon Panetta forgot about “pulverizing the status quo,” along with Middle Eastern flight students, and retired to his enigmatic Panetta Institute for Public Policy to host Forums on Terrorism and National Security. The Panetta Institute is located squarely on Fort Ord, a stones throw from the Silas B. Hays Government Center (Fort Ord’s old hospital building). The nearby Monterey International Airport, with its miniaturized concourse, is also visible from the Hays building. It would have been impossible for the super secret governmental agencies stationed at the complex (off-limits to the public), to have used the airport between 1996 and 2001, and not spotted the Middle Eastern males, all clad in flowing white linen robes complete with head gear.

Meanwhile, Hillary Clinton’s failure to attend the funerals of the 9-11 victims was chalked-off to scheduling conflicts. For Hillary, the liability for circumventing the ceremonies would be far less than attending and being tied to the World Trade Center attacks. It was classic Clinton. That didn’t keep gubernatorial hopeful, Leon Panetta’s name off the list during the California recall, but such a revelation could conflict with Hillary’s schedule to become president. Bill Clinton’s credit card expires and it’s news -- but clear and convincing evidence that political opportunists, drunken schemers, and the Clintons were the genesis of 9-11, by “legally” enabling the Middle Eastern alumni of their “skunk works” to perform past and future catastrophes goes unreported.

The Clintons launched the culture war, on their bold venue or “skunk works” at Fort Ord. Not since Nazi Germany, certainly never in the history of this country, has there ever been such blatant fraud and consolidated attacks, perpetrated on anyone and everyone who didn’t crawl out of the same sewer -- and at taxpayer expense. The war on terror would soon follow.
37 posted on 03/04/2004 11:02:13 PM PST by chickens (imagine a chicken having a tiger by the tail -- there's a plan.)
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